Are employers allowed to call a doctor to verify the integrity of a sick note?

imported_Phil

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Given doctor/patient confidentiality, I wouldn't have thought so. They'd need your express permission. Well, they do in the UK anyway.
 

etalns

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Originally posted by: Phil
Given doctor/patient confidentiality, I wouldn't have thought so. They'd need your express permission. Well, they do in the UK anyway.

I had wondered whether that would cover it, wanted to double check.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Phil
Given doctor/patient confidentiality, I wouldn't have thought so. They'd need your express permission. Well, they do in the UK anyway.

The doctor WROTE THE NOTE...it's not like they're calling to ask for more details. Just a "yes, I wrote that, it's not fake."

I don't believe that falls under doctor/patient confidentiality.
 

rezinn

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Why would they need to call to verify its integrity? Can't they see it's in one piece?
 

chambersc

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Phil
Given doctor/patient confidentiality, I wouldn't have thought so. They'd need your express permission. Well, they do in the UK anyway.

The doctor WROTE THE NOTE...it's not like they're calling to ask for more details. Just a "yes, I wrote that, it's not fake."

I don't believe that falls under doctor/patient confidentiality.

correct.
 

I Saw OJ

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I still dont understand what employers need doctors notes for when you call in sick anyway. Having a note or not does not get you into work any sooner.
 

sunase

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>Having a note or not does not get you into work any sooner.

It might get you into work more often, though, because it makes it tougher for people to use sick days when they aren't sick.
 

Beev

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We have an employee here that claimed sickness and then "got a doctors note" and brough it in. The manager called the doctor and found out it was fake. The girl got fired, and for good reason.
 

I Saw OJ

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Originally posted by: sunase
>Having a note or not does not get you into work any sooner.

It might get you into work more often, though, because it makes it tougher for people to use sick days when they aren't sick.

I suppose I could understand where you get paid sick days. However my last job we didnt have paid sick days but were still required to bring in notes if we called in sick. They even threated to not let us come back to work until we brought one in...
 

BDawg

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If you don't abuse sick days, you're employer (unless he's an ass) won't question when you're sick.
 

jamesbond007

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Originally posted by: Sraaz
We have an employee here that claimed sickness and then "got a doctors note" and brough it in. The manager called the doctor and found out it was fake. The girl got fired, and for good reason.

Love it! :D

Quosis, genital herpes is nothing to be ashamed of! :p
 

PokerGuy

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Yes, your employer can indeed call to verify the authenticity of the note. I don't think it's very common, but if they employer suspects something they can verify.
 

DaiShan

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Originally posted by: I Saw OJ
I still dont understand what employers need doctors notes for when you call in sick anyway. Having a note or not does not get you into work any sooner.


Because sick days != vacation days. You are supposed to use your sick days when you are actually sick. If you just don't feel like going into work you need to use a vacation day. That being said, there is an increasing trend among employers to move to a 'PTO' system (paid time off) PTO time usually adds up to the sum of your sick time plus vacation time, but can be used for any reason.
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: I Saw OJ
I still dont understand what employers need doctors notes for when you call in sick anyway. Having a note or not does not get you into work any sooner.

I owuld never work at a place that made be bring in a note for calling in sick. Why would I spend $20 for a copay to go see a doc that couldn't do anything for me, like a viral infection that needs to run it course. Plus, where can I find a doctor when I am out on a lake fishing?
 

episodic

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It is a shame that in this country vacation is so paltry. We need at least 4 weeks a year off. Most other 1st world nations are much more liberal with vacation.

Many employers make you feel guilty for taking your 2 weeks off. And many more only give ya 10 days or 7 a year. It is a shame.
 

Mr Pickles

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Saying something like

"My boss is a huge jerk and needs to understand that the time I use is the time I have been given and I'm going to spend it how I want regardless of what it is designed to be for. I only get 2 or 3 weeks off a year, nothing compared to other countries. If you don't want me to use the time you have given me for what I want then don't give it to me, I'll quit."

would be perfect for this kind of situtation.
 

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Phil
Given doctor/patient confidentiality, I wouldn't have thought so. They'd need your express permission. Well, they do in the UK anyway.

The doctor WROTE THE NOTE...it's not like they're calling to ask for more details. Just a "yes, I wrote that, it's not fake."

I don't believe that falls under doctor/patient confidentiality.

i don't think the doctor/patient confidentiality would prevent the employer from calling. i think however it might prevent the doctor from answer. ;)