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Are CD Burning speeds stopping at 52x?

What would be the point?

Since long before 52x, drives have had to use some form of CLV/CAV, meaning they only write at the rated speed near the edge of the disk. Diminishing returns being what they are, even if it's possible to squeeze an extra 4-10x at the outer edge, the benefit would be measured as a matter of a few seconds (like maybe 3) per disc, and you would need another round of media certification for a technology that is now bordering on obsolete.
 
Hammerhead, you're thinking of Lite-Scribe drives by HP. It etches the words on a special coating on the top of the disk.

And for the record, I have never gotten a CD to burn at 52x, with any brand of media. And when will 16x DVD media be available?
 
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
And for the record, I have never gotten a CD to burn at 52x, with any brand of media.
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Wow, odd. I've burnt dozens of CDRs at 52x. Liteon 52x CDRW using 52x Memorex 700MB CDRs and Nero. That's only for data cds. For music cds I have to slow it down to around 24x or they give me read problems in my stereos.
 
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Hammerhead, you're thinking of Lite-Scribe drives by HP. It etches the words on a special coating on the top of the disk.

And for the record, I have never gotten a CD to burn at 52x, with any brand of media. And when will 16x DVD media be available?
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No, there are drives that will let you write patterns to the unused section of the disc - notice how the written portion of a CDR looks different than the unwritten? It just lets you write random stuff to the unwritten portion to get that type of image difference.
 
You shouldn't be burning discs at 52x any way. Its too fast, and will give you a disc that will last about 1/4 the time it would if it were burned at a lower speed.

This isn't always true, some brands of media actually get less errors when burned at quicker speeds. But for the most part, the good media should never be burned at more then 40-48x unless you want to have tons of errors.

Look Here for information on which media gets the most erros and at what speeds. Great forum BTW.
 
Originally posted by: Nohr
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
And for the record, I have never gotten a CD to burn at 52x, with any brand of media.
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Wow, odd. I've burnt dozens of CDRs at 52x. Liteon 52x CDRW using 52x Memorex 700MB CDRs and Nero. That's only for data cds. For music cds I have to slow it down to around 24x or they give me read problems in my stereos.
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Same here....I don't think my Lite-On 52x ever burnt a coaster at 52x....even with crappy Officemax media.
 
Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
Originally posted by: Nohr
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
And for the record, I have never gotten a CD to burn at 52x, with any brand of media.
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Wow, odd. I've burnt dozens of CDRs at 52x. Liteon 52x CDRW using 52x Memorex 700MB CDRs and Nero. That's only for data cds. For music cds I have to slow it down to around 24x or they give me read problems in my stereos.
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Same here....I don't think my Lite-On 52x ever burnt a coaster at 52x....even with crappy Officemax media.
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Yeah, I have a LiteOn 52x, and I've only had 1 coaster in 1 years time. It was probably something I did too...
 
Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
Originally posted by: Nohr
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
And for the record, I have never gotten a CD to burn at 52x, with any brand of media.
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Wow, odd. I've burnt dozens of CDRs at 52x. Liteon 52x CDRW using 52x Memorex 700MB CDRs and Nero. That's only for data cds. For music cds I have to slow it down to around 24x or they give me read problems in my stereos.
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Same here....I don't think my Lite-On 52x ever burnt a coaster at 52x....even with crappy Officemax media.
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I guarentee that if you tested them for PI and PO errors, that there would be 100's, and probably 1000's more then if you had burned at a slower speed. Just a wait a few years, then try those discs you burned at 52x.

I'm not talking coasters here, I'm talking about data blocks that have errors in them because the burner was trying to burn too quickly. Go to the link I posted and actually do some research, maybe even test the PI and PO errors on the discs you created. Then do the same with the same media burned at a lower speed. Then you will learn.
 
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Hammerhead, you're thinking of Lite-Scribe drives by HP. It etches the words on a special coating on the top of the disk.

And for the record, I have never gotten a CD to burn at 52x, with any brand of media. And when will 16x DVD media be available?
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same.. all of mine burn at 40X at the most.
 
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
Originally posted by: Nohr
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
And for the record, I have never gotten a CD to burn at 52x, with any brand of media.
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Wow, odd. I've burnt dozens of CDRs at 52x. Liteon 52x CDRW using 52x Memorex 700MB CDRs and Nero. That's only for data cds. For music cds I have to slow it down to around 24x or they give me read problems in my stereos.
Click to expand...

Same here....I don't think my Lite-On 52x ever burnt a coaster at 52x....even with crappy Officemax media.
Click to expand...

I guarentee that if you tested them for PI and PO errors, that there would be 100's, and probably 1000's more then if you had burned at a slower speed. Just a wait a few years, then try those discs you burned at 52x.

I'm not talking coasters here, I'm talking about data blocks that have errors in them because the burner was trying to burn too quickly. Go to the link I posted and actually do some research, maybe even test the PI and PO errors on the discs you created. Then do the same with the same media burned at a lower speed. Then you will learn.
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Good point. Honestly, I never checked for PI/PO errors because I didn't use CD-R much for important data backup, and when I did, I burnt at a lower speed like 32x or 24x. Most of the burning was simply data CDs with MP3s on them to listen in my Alpine dash player. As long as they played fine, the accuracy of the burn didn't concern me.

Now, I'm MUCH more particular about backing up to DVD. I check for errors with different types of media and burn at the lower speeds since I'm archiving data.
 
Actually, someone (Plextor?) had a 72x drive out a while back, I think it worked by using multiple beams to write to several "tracks" at once.

Edit: They apparantly weren't very popular, and I wouldn't expect to see anything over 52x ever. How fast do you need to go anyway? A 52x will burn a disc in 2-3 minutes
 
CDs will not shatter at any feasable drive speed, they proved this on mythbusters....the only CD they could get to shatter was one that they had put in the equivalent of a 300X "CD Drive"
 
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