Are Barr/Trump slowly unraveling the Michael Flynn prosecution?

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HumblePie

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The guy who cites his grandpa in law who used to work at NASA wants to complain about appeals to authority. Lol.

He was correct and frankly it was nice of him to entertain your stupidity as long as he did.

Edit: also I just realized you said someone wasn’t to be believed as to the law because they don’t practice law anywhere. You also don’t practice law, you don’t even have a law degree. Lol again.

DVC has never been correct to the argument, but to his statements. It's a distinction with merit. Take that old argument with malicious prosecution in the Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman case. Someone asked why it was on the books. He right points out that it is impossible to use these days. I said sorta, but he is correct in that statement. I then go on to try to explain how it was originally intended in history and how it could have been applied more readily in the past when there were private prosecutors that could be hired. I then went on to say how it may be applied still today but only in civil matters since the immunity isnt there. He still makes statements like I am wrong because it can't be applied to criminal prosecution which I never once argued with him on. He was making a strawman to make it seem like I was wrong when all I was doing was presenting the history and how it could be used in modern era still, but is was practically a toothless statute on the books. Yet, you still fell for his idiocy strawman arguments because DVC was arguing that Zimmerman was still going to jail for murder like you were also saying. In the end, I was right on that as well and Zimmerman didn't go to jail.
 

HumblePie

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Wow ok well I'm done eviscerating @HumblePie for y'all. I don't know if I feel good about it. I had been fooled initially thinking we might actually be able to approach collaboratively on this from different points of view. But it's really hard to engage with someone who doesn't admit he is changing the rules with every post.

You haven't done jack shit except expose your own ignorance. Don't be like emocgen in trying to say I was admit an en banc would never happened in this thread when I never made such a statement. His interpretation of me saying "it may happen or it may not but I highly doubt it" as my adamant 100% statement it was never going to happen was laughable. Just as your attempts here are.
 
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fskimospy

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Wow ok well I'm done eviscerating @HumblePie for y'all. I don't know if I feel good about it. I had been fooled initially thinking we might actually be able to approach collaboratively on this from different points of view. But it's really hard to engage with someone who doesn't admit he is changing the rules with every post.
This has always been my problem with him as well - when you prove him wrong he changes his argument and pretends the previous one never existed.

I don’t remember if it was this thread specifically but it might have been where in the span of a few pages he argued two mutually contradictory positions while insisting both were correct and he had made no error.
 

fskimospy

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Okay, just watch some videos on Nathan Broady then.


He is only a criminal prosecution lawyer. Staunch democrat. Previous NYPD officer. He has gone through a bunch of discussions with other lawyers on this case such as David Freiheit, Robert Barnes, and Kurt from Uncivil Law. Basically everything I've said in this thread has been repeated by them regarding this case. I can certainly point to a lot more lawyers who also see the same things about this case if you don't think the legal analysis from my law degree isn't good enough for you. The point I make with having a law degree is that I have attempted to have some understanding in this area of our lives compared to the average person. I am quite well aware of not knowing everything either when it comes to law, as it isn't my major field of study in life, but I know a fair bit about it. Hence why I also refer to others with more experience to a degree when coming up with my analysis. I also don't just jump straight into the deep end with my statements either when I do my analysis. This is why in literally every single law case based thread I've participated in on these forums I don't even start making comments on the topic until long after a decent amount of evidence and knowledge has come about to even start to come up with a proper opinion on the subject. I don't even make a statement to the outcome until I have reviewed enough evidence to deem it not happening any other way. This is why I haven't been wrong on any legal case thread on this forum to date. It's because I don't make statements to the outcome. For example, take the Ahmaud Arbery case. I haven't said in any way shape or form how that case is going to turn out. I don't have enough evidence. I have argued the legal merits of the case on both sides and have given opinions about the merits. I haven't made a statement which way I think it is going to turn out unlike this case here in contrast.
Wait are you claiming you have completed a juris doctorate? When did this happen?
 

HumblePie

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Wait are you claiming you have completed a juris doctorate? When did this happen?

WTF does that matter to you? Your a shill anyhow. I could be sitting on SCOTUS and if I said something against your shill support you'd still be as looney in your opposition to what I state.

Do you want to argue that Nate Broady, in the youtube video I linked and has stated everything I have stated in this thread so far, is wrong on his legal assessment as a criminal federal prosecutor? I am sure you are going to or are going to look for some way to try and assassinate his character to make you think the points he and I are making are incorrect somehow in regards to this case.
 

fskimospy

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WTF does that matter to you? Your a shill anyhow. I could be sitting on SCOTUS and if I said something against your shill support you'd still be as looney in your opposition to what I state.

Do you want to argue that Nate Broady, in the youtube video I linked and has stated everything I have stated in this thread so far, is wrong on his legal assessment as a criminal federal prosecutor? I am sure you are going to or are going to look for some way to try and assassinate his character to make you think the points he and I are making are incorrect somehow in regards to this case.
You said you had a law degree - do you or don’t you have a JD? That is what a law degree is after all.
 

HumblePie

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You said you had a law degree - do you or don’t you have a JD? That is what a law degree is after all.

I have one. I got it for a DoJ software development security job that required it. I don't actively practice law though.
 

brycejones

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I have one. I got it for a DoJ software development security job that required it. I don't actively practice law though.
Before you explicitly said you did not. You said you had a criminology degree which you said was "the basis of a law degree". So in the last 60 days you graduated from law school? Congrats man, hope you had an amazing graduation party.
 

HumblePie

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Sounds like you got it a while ago then, what year?

What does it matter? I'm not in the habit of putting on line private information. I don't do facebook. I don't do twitter. I don't do things like that. Giving out anecdote stories of myself, friends, or family without identifiable info is one thing. There are too many crazy people in this world that would do bad things with information I rather not let them have. That includes you.
 

fskimospy

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Well that’s sure odd - as of July you claimed you never went to law school. Did you complete your JD in the last three months?


I didn't do law school. My mother and other family members have. A criminal Justice degree is a precursor for that.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a liar!
 

HumblePie

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Before you explicitly said you did not. You said you had a criminology which you said was "the basis of a law degree". So in the last 60 days you graduated from law school?

I said I have a criminal justice degree. Which can be used to get a law degree, not that it is required everywhere to be a practicing lawyer as most places require just passing the bar examine. I was stating that while I have a criminal degree, it was for the purpose of acquiring a software development job.
 

HumblePie

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Well that’s sure odd - as of July you claimed you never went to law school. Did you complete your JD in the last three months?




Ladies and gentlemen, we have a liar!

You are trying to catch me in nothing. I stated then and now I have a criminal justice degree. Not a Juris Doctor degree for law. There is a difference. I have stated I have family members who have completed those degrees and were at one time actively practicing law. But are you going to try the emocgen route of trying to accuse me of something demonstrably incorrect here? That where you are going?
 

fskimospy

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You are trying to catch me in nothing. I stated then and now I have a criminal justice degree. Not a Juris Doctor degree for law. There is a difference.
Man if you're going to lie again you shouldn't do so within the same page.

You said you had a law degree - do you or don’t you have a JD? That is what a law degree is after all.

I have one. I got it for a DoJ software development security job that required it. I don't actively practice law though.
You. Are. A. Fucking. Liar.
 

HumblePie

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1) Lol, no.

2) Irrelevant - I asked you point blank if you had a JD and you said you did.

You.

Are.

A.

Fucking.

Liar.

I NEVER SAID I HAD A JD DEGREE. You asked if I had a law degree. Criminal Justice is a type of law degree. I have that. I clarified it for you when you asked, What type of law degree?

Or are you trying to play the how often do you beat your wife kind of question here?
 

HumblePie

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Maybe that explains why you and those people may be confused about the law?

Really? Want to tell that to Nate Broady who I linked explaining this case as a criminal prosecutor about how he is confused about the law?

Legal Studies, Criminal Justice, JD, Paralegal Studies, and others are usually lumped in terms of being law degrees.
 

brycejones

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I NEVER SAID I HAD A JD DEGREE. You asked if I had a law degree. Criminal Justice is a type of law degree. I have that. I clarified it for you when you asked, What type of law degree?

Or are you trying to play the how often do you beat your wife kind of question here?
You lied own it a like a man.