Are ati drivers better at this point then nvidia?

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busydude

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You have a unstable system, there may be some other driver or piece of hardware possibly failing or installed incorrectly.

Yup, anything other than the videocard must be the culprit.. especially if it is made by Nvidia.

In my experience.. CFX'ing the 5XXX was the worst that I had to endure. No issues for me while on a single card.
 

96Firebird

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They had more market share than Microsoft or Intel? o_O

Microsoft developed the OS, they shouldn't be having any crashes on their own OS. Or, you could say they caused 100% of the crashes because it is their OS. They, in some way, were the fault of 100% of the crashes.

Intel only has chipset drivers, they don't have any GPU drivers. Take into account that Nvidia had GPU AND chipset drivers, plus the over-all market share in GPUs, everything looks normal.

ZimZum, where did you get those numbers from? Always best to link to a source...
 

skipsneeky2

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Why , you haven't proven that. You have a unstable system, there may be some other driver or piece of hardware possibly failing or installed incorrectly.
Its the same as me saying, who has never had a problem with 2 video cards in SLI, that things are absolutely perfect and problem free, and the only way to go.
Nvidia makes workstation drivers for similar hardware up and down the product line, and stability is key for productivity. Thats what I feel I'm getting with my purchase.

I have proven it in another thread.

Used a spare 9800gtx i had sitting around.

Uninstalled the 275.33 put on 266.58 drivers and i didn't experience any of the issues i am now.

Put the gtx 560 back in and 275.33 and right back to problem city...i would love to run 266.58 on this card but i'm afraid it wont be compatible.
 

AdamK47

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Speaking of crap drivers, has anyone encountered the bug where the monitor looses it's image and goes dark for a few seconds? The one with that "the display driver has recovered from a whatever in the whatever (can't remember the exact words)" message?

It happened to me today twice while I was browsing in firefox. (although it was using hardware acceleration without my knowing - turned it off when I realized that).

I'm using the latest forceware driver - downloaded it yesterday after a clean format an windows installation.

Do I need to replace it with a previous version?

This problem can be caused by memory and CPU instability as well. Not just the video card and the drivers.
 

Smartazz

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I've owned the nvidia 7800GT, 7900GT, 8800GTS(G80), GTX260C216 and a Radeon HD6870. Never had a problem with any of those. However, a friend of mine has the GTX 560 non ti and there were serious problems with dragon age 2.
 

Gikaseixas

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better leave it alone dude. I've always use both and have had no issues.

Oh almost forgot, i had a Radeon 1600 pro that gave me all sorts of problems but other than that...
 

Chiropteran

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AMD drivers cure cancer, purify the air, and make your video card run so efficiently it actually produces electricity.

Nvidia drivers light your computer on fire, cause global warming, and kill household pets.
 

Seero

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If a driver works perfectly fine on one PC, and fail on the other that is identicial in hardware setup, then there can be 3 reasons, both are independent of the driver itself. A)Setup, B)Software conflict, C)Defective Hardwares.

A bug in driver may cause the card to overheat, but not fry it unless it is changes the voltage going into the card. During SC2 beta, AMD or Nvidia, video cards were being fried. It was said that the menu screen is to be blamed, which blizzard put a FPS cap on it. The driver in question, 196.75, was released in between these time and many experience overheating. Some people realized that the video card was overheating because the fanspeed reminds at 30-40% at max after the new driver. Some even claimed that the temp increased through Liquid Cooling and some claim that temp reminds high even after rollback. There were a few reports stated that their cards were killed due to the driver and therefore Nvidia decided to pull the driver out as a precaution. I was one of the earlier beta tester and was actively trolling the forum at the time. Granted the menu screen does make my video card hot, 82c after leaving the computer on at the menu screen for 6 hours regardless of which drivers (that is because I have really long breaks in between games and do not feel like logging out).

Here is the official thread from nvidia forum for 196.75. Mods at Nvidia forum redirected all threads about overheating to this thread.

The problematic driver was out in Mar 2, 2010, and Incgamers.com made a claim about 196.75 kills video card on Mar 3, 2010. That is, within 24 hours they are able to identify the source of death is indeed a bug within the driver. Of course quickly many sites repeat this finding. Interestingly, cards were still being fried by the menu screen of SC2 that is not using 196.75.

The original link http://starcraft.incgamers.com/blog...ivers-starcraft-ii-beta-rip-pc-graphic-cards/ was no longer available, but you will be able to dig back the source.
 

skipsneeky2

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AMD drivers cure cancer, purify the air, and make your video card run so efficiently it actually produces electricity.

Nvidia drivers light your computer on fire, cause global warming, and kill household pets.

Chuck norris can do everything but make your video card run that efficient...:thumbsup:
 

Voo

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Microsoft developed the OS, they shouldn't be having any crashes on their own OS. Or, you could say they caused 100% of the crashes because it is their OS. They, in some way, were the fault of 100% of the crashes.
You really shouldn't say anything if you have no clue about the matter at hand.

How exactly should the kernel stop drivers running in ring0 (and there's code that has to run there) that do something illegal - how even determine reliably if a specific action is illegal or not (and even if you could - how stop it from doing so?)


Also the kernel guys don't write device drivers.
 

sandorski

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AMD drivers cure cancer, purify the air, and make your video card run so efficiently it actually produces electricity.

Nvidia drivers light your computer on fire, cause global warming, and kill household pets.

True Facts.
 
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id say no. lots of the less used features (dual monitor + crossfire) have issues here and there. I had to turn off one monitor to play quake wars enemy territory, for example. SO I wnet back to my 4890.
 

SolMiester

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And it has also been pointed out that the graph he listed is not just discreet cards. Intel had, by far, the most graphics drivers out there, probably as many as AMD and Nvidia combined. Yet Nvidia has caused more crashes than Intel or AMD put together. Both Intel and AMD also had chipset drivers, and Intel had other drivers as well.

I wish people would stop trying to discredit this data just because they do not like what it says.


As far as drivers today, I cannot say I have any real problems with AMD drivers. It seems that there are more Nvidia driver threads as of late around here. But as another poster mentioned, I don't upgrade just because a new driver is out. If I have a driver that works, unless a new driver has a feature I really want, I stick with the driver that works.


However Intel was accelerating graphics in a 3D environment were they, so that argument is rubbish....
 

apoppin

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I have never had a driver issue with either of them
i wish i could say that; however the issues that i have had have generally been minor.

i am benching the latest WHQL GeForce 280s with GTX 560 Ti and getting solid performance increases over the launch drivers for it. Next week, when i am done with my HD 6770 vs. GTX 560 Ti evaluation, i will evaluate the latest WHQL from each company.

Both AMD and Nvidia put out quality drivers.
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