are asians really the model minority?

[kyrax12]

I think almost all groups can be quite biased. Although from my own experience, many first generation asian immigrants are not racist, but simply prejudiced against others. For example, I am ethnically Chinese but when I went to the University of Toronto (very very high asian population), many "fobby" asians either ignored me or commented in their own language right around me. Coincidentally, I speak a number of languages, so I could usually interject in their discussion

Do you know why they would ignore you?

 

[busydude]

Well I never been to Korea before so I can't comment on that.

They are racist and ironically aspire to look like Caucasians.

 

[Imp]

Indians are passively racist from my experience. A lot view other peoples as inferior. Saw that a lot when I used to work at a store in Brampton, which has Ontario's largest new immigrant indo community. They're fairly pleasant though and don't usually mistreat you.

Asians work hard but they do tend to segregate themselves more than others. I've found that a lot of new Asian immigrants are quite actively racist. To the point that they'll outright ignore you if you're white or black and go to their stores. Had this happen a couple of times to me. Here in Toronto there's a big Asian market called thr Pacific Mall. It's well known that non-Asians don't get served there. This is more the older generation and especially Chinese and Koreans. Japanese, Filipinos, and South East Asians don't behave that way.

Ah, Pacific Mall. I love and hate that place at the same time. I "should" fit in (not white), but I feel completely out of place there - and this was when the place was more dominated by Hong Kongers than China-Chinese.

 

[jhu]

Yup, just like someone from Brazil is an american... Oh wait

The USA is the only country with the term "America" in it.

I dont know anyone who referes to indians as asians... What about russia? The large majority of their country is in asia and no one considers them asians

I and my colleagues refer to Indians as Asians. If we wanted to be more specific we'd say Indian. If we wanted to be more specific we'd say Punjabi, Bengali, etc.

India has enough of a population to be their own "race" anyway, and you can tell an indian person in a crowd very easily as well, they really look nothing like any other "asian"

Find the Indian-American:

 

[Eug]

...and lol @ the Asians being model immigrants. It's all about the yellow fever most White guys suffer from.

I've seem some decent White guys go for the stinkest looking Asian chicks and I could never understand why.

Maybe they figure they'll be dead from their McDonald's diet before their younger Asian wives goes through THE CHANGE?

 

[kyrax12]

They are racist and ironically aspire to look like Caucasians.

I think the Holy Asian Trinity countries.. (China, Korea, japan) aspire to look like Caucasians.

 

[Childs]

Yup, just like someone from Brazil is an american... Oh wait

No, you were somewhat right. They are South American.

I dont know anyone who referes to indians as asians... What about russia? The large majority of their country is in asia and no one considers them asians

I have heard it from Indians.

Russia spans two continents, Europe and Asia. Generally Russia is considered on the European continent, probably because 75% of its population resides west of the Ural Mountains, the border between Europe and Asia.

India has enough of a population to be their own "race" anyway, and you can tell an indian person in a crowd very easily as well, they really look nothing like any other "asian"

Race has nothing to do with geographical location.

 

[Zeze]

http://inamerica.blogs.cnn.com/2012...rgest-group-of-new-arrivals-in-u-s/?hpt=hp_t2

this is not the first article about asians being the most successful immigrant group from a major publication recently. even espn did a story on something similar during the linsanity craze.



I do admire the fact that they do not rely on govt handouts.
However, i feel the oft repeated statement that they assimilate quickly with american culture is false. they have a high tendency to self-segregate.

here's an example. when I was younger, we used to have block parties every summer where I lived. we would apply for a permit to block the road off and everyone would gather outside, have food, drink beer, throw a baseball, play touch football, whatever. someone would dj, or some of the guys would bring out their guitars, set up their drum set and jam outside. good all around fun.
everyone except the asian and indian families would participate. i would see them just stare from their windows for a few minutes, and then disappear... probably went back to studying.
It really took away the sense of togetherness and community. and it happened with every asian family that moved in. they got the flyers that we stuck in their mailboxes so it's not like they weren't invited or weren't aware.
guess what... our annual tradition today is no more. it actually died off years ago due to lack of participation.

dafuq, stereotype much? Why does every post of yours have a racist agenda? It's not their fault some Asians suck at socializing.

That being said, I know plenty of first-gen Asians who know how to party. My dad is the block drunk, having a jolly time with all the neighbors.

My friend's SE Asian dad is effin' hilarious. He throws the biggest parties and invites everyone, despite his horrid broken english - an excuse to have a good time.

 

[N4n45h1]

Do you know why they would ignore you?

Actually it seems to be that I'm perhaps too integrated into American life. This happens to a number of my friends as well. Although the barrier breaks down quickly once you talk to them in their native tongue. I strongly believe that they are just not comfortable with speaking English.

 

[N4n45h1]

Ah, Pacific Mall. I love and hate that place at the same time. I "should" fit in (not white), but I feel completely out of place there - and this was when the place was more dominated by Hong Kongers than China-Chinese.

I feel the same way, but I think it's because I'm just not culturally Cantonese enough. My cousins who grew up in Richmond Hill and Markham don't have any issues though

 

[Albatross]

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/asianamericans-graphics/indians/
Wow,Indians are the richest ,it`s time for Chinese parents to make their kids study 25h a day to catch up.

 

[sdifox]

I am the Asian slacker dad.

 

[SlitheryDee]

They're not perfect, but they seem to do better on the whole than other minorities. I think their rigidly defined family structure has a lot to do with it. You don't see many asian families where there isn't both a mother and father who keep a tight rein on their children and push them to succeed. Perhaps they go a bit too far in some cases, but it largely seems to work to make them successful.

 

[busydude]

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/asianamericans-graphics/indians/
Wow,Indians are the richest ,it`s time for Chinese parents to make their kids study 25h a day to catch up.

LOL, if you know how fob Indians secure jobs in the US.. you'll hate them for eternity.

 

[Zeze]

LOL, if you know how fob Indians secure jobs in the US.. you'll hate them for eternity.

Do tell.

 

[busydude]

Do tell.

Contract jobs.

I am not going to go in detail but just think about it. How can a person, 23-24, who finished his Masters in EE ends up working as a DBA(Or some IT position) with 7 years work experience in his resume.

I wonder what happens there? :whiste:

 

[Ns1]

immigrant asians (like my parents) are nothing like american born asians (like myself)

 

[Zeze]

Contract jobs.

I am not going to go in detail but just think about it. How can a person, 23-24, who finished his Masters in EE ends up working as a DBA(Or some IT position) with 7 years work experience in his resume.

I wonder what happens there? :whiste:

That's the dumb employer's fault too..

 

[busydude]

That's the dumb employer's fault too..

They have too much trust in the consultants. Consultants fake everything about the person being interviewed that it is not even funny(Even the person being interviewed is a fake, happens frequently if the employer conducts only phone interviews).

What I find hard to digest is how come so many people collectively have absolutely no morals and ethics.

 

[Madwand1]

when I was younger, we used to have block parties every summer where I lived. we would apply for a permit to block the road off and everyone would gather outside, have food, drink beer, throw a baseball, play touch football, whatever. someone would dj, or some of the guys would bring out their guitars, set up their drum set and jam outside. good all around fun.
everyone except the asian and indian families would participate. i would see them just stare from their windows for a few minutes, and then disappear... probably went back to studying.
It really took away the sense of togetherness and community. and it happened with every asian family that moved in. they got the flyers that we stuck in their mailboxes so it's not like they weren't invited or weren't aware.
guess what... our annual tradition today is no more. it actually died off years ago due to lack of participation.

That's really too bad, but I think integration works better when the host takes extra steps and addresses the internal barriers faced by visible minorities in a foreign setting. Stuffing flyers in their doors and doing random stuff in public that they can't well relate to isn't nearly enough to make an outsider feel welcome; especially when they've faced racism already and had a taste of how unwelcome they are to some.

I don't know the details of your neighborhoods and the steps you took to welcome newcomers, but I can tell you that outgoing contact from kind and generous people making it easier for people from very different backgrounds and cultures to feel that they can belong and are welcome, being themselves, and not merely imagining that they're somehow not different is something that solves this problem.

 

[rsutoratosu]

I do admire the fact that they do not rely on govt handouts.

yeah they do, my bro in law gets food stamps but buys a 55" 3d led tv and both kids under 8 has ipad 2

While I dont give a rats ass, they just keep coming over looking for free stuff from me.

There are always exceptions.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

dafuq, stereotype much? Why does every post of yours have a racist agenda? It's not their fault some Asians suck at socializing.

That being said, I know plenty of first-gen Asians who know how to party. My dad is the block drunk, having a jolly time with all the neighbors.

My friend's SE Asian dad is effin' hilarious. He throws the biggest parties and invites everyone, despite his horrid broken english - an excuse to have a good time.

Holy fuck the article is about Asians you dumb shit. Why don't you just go back to your shitty low paying pm job in your shitty cube in your shit borough and ignore my posts.