Are Asians more prone to suicide?

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DigDug

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Nonsense.The highest suicides rates are scattered across the Scandinavian countries. Norway, Finland, etc.
 

kami333

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Originally posted by: slycat
i dun wanna get into something that cannot be proven but i have yet to meet a japanese who knows wtf siddarta gautama is. and when i tell them buddhism is based on/founded by an indian dude, they are like 'wtF?..no ways'. riiiight....:roll:

Maybe cause we don't know him as siddarta gautama. He is usually called oshakasama or shaka in Japan.
 

Amorphus

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Originally posted by: atom
at least there's the whole church going experience, or influence in schools, friends, media, news, etc.
Quotes from the bible are pretty rampant in the western world.

And there is no religious influence in the media in Japan?

in buddhism, u hardly derive anything unless u make the effort to go seek it. i know more about buddhism than all my 'buddhist' asian friends...my buddhist caucasian friends is a diff story.

Well I dunno if it's true, but I read somewhere a while back that close to 90% of all people in Japan participate in either Shinto or Buddhist traditions/celebrations/rituals.

Whether the societal pressure to succeed is religious or not, I don't have a clue. But it's not the same as Asians in America because at least Asians here only face it from their parents, not from society as a whole (at least not in the same way).

for the most part, only by name and some traditions/customs/ceremonies.

Well, it's the same as a lot of Christians. There are plenty of "Christians" that know jack sh!t about the bible, or at best a very elementary understanding of it.

The difference between Christianity and Shinto or Buddhism is that Christianity does not necessitate tradition or rituals, while Shintoism/Buddhism have a strict set of rules to follow and a strict set of motions you have to go to, at least (at the most basic level, at least).
 

Amorphus

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Originally posted by: RobCur
Originally posted by: z0mb13
peer (and family) pressure is very high

on the other hand, this is why in general asian people are more dedicated (successful) than other people
thats bs, asian are just as bad or as lazy as us american, nuff said.

You do not have any idea what you say with that mouth, do you?
 

Imdmn04

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Only Japanese people.
Never heard of a high suicide rate anywhere outside of Japan in Asia.
 

PoPPeR

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Originally posted by: RobCur
Originally posted by: z0mb13
peer (and family) pressure is very high

on the other hand, this is why in general asian people are more dedicated (successful) than other people
thats bs, asian are just as bad or as lazy as us american, nuff said.
No, they aren't really
 

z0mb13

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Originally posted by: kami333
Originally posted by: slycat
i dun wanna get into something that cannot be proven but i have yet to meet a japanese who knows wtf siddarta gautama is. and when i tell them buddhism is based on/founded by an indian dude, they are like 'wtF?..no ways'. riiiight....:roll:

Maybe cause we don't know him as siddarta gautama. He is usually called oshakasama or shaka in Japan.

SHAKA KHANNNNN!?!?!?!? :D:D
 

Pandaren

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Racially inclined? I think it has less to do with genetics and more to do with the kinds of pressures society places on people. Asking if Asians are more prone to suicide is like asking if Gays are more prone to suicide.

I can only speak about Asians in America, and even then only about a narrow spectrum of Asian Americans living in relatively affluent suburbs with few minorities. As a general rule we were a pretty depressing lot of people. Sure, we did well in school, all went to good colleges, etc., but there was a lot of pressure on us to succeed and oftentimes our best efforts were not enough.

It was a bad day if you got 95% on a math test, conservative protestant Christians preached to you constantly that aetheism/Buddism/other Asian religion would land you in hell for all eternity, your parent(s) b!tched you out for not getting 100% on the math test, and you got rejected for the 10th time by a pretty girl who did not find you suitable to date.

At least I was well fed and never beaten. I remember reading a thread by someone here at ATOT saying his parents hit him all the time even though he did his best to please them :(
 

PoPPeR

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Originally posted by: Imdmn04
Only Japanese people.
Never heard of a high suicide rate anywhere outside of Japan in Asia.
My cousins in Taiwan say suicide is common. I don't know the percentages, but their schedules are as difficult as any. My cousins go to school at 6 in the morning and come home around 8 in the evening.
 

DigDug

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The difference between Christianity and Shinto or Buddhism is that Christianity does not necessitate tradition or rituals, while Shintoism/Buddhism have a strict set of rules to follow and a strict set of motions you have to go to, at least (at the most basic level, at least).


Are you out of your mind? Its quite the opposite. Christianity is LADEN with ritual and dogma, wheras Buddhist "rituals" are constantly trying to remind of the nature of things as impermanent and transient. Those "strict" rules are a training to allow the mind to break free; quite the opposite of Western notions of religion, where rules, divinely laid forth, take responsibility off of man, since he is imperfect and flawed.
 

RMSistight

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What they should do is build metal fences and electronic doors on the station platform. That way, people won't be able to jump because of the fences and the doors will only open along with the train doors at the same time.
 

kami333

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Originally posted by: RMSistight
What they should do is build metal fences and electronic doors on the station platform. That way, people won't be able to jump because of the fences and the doors will only open along with the train doors at the same time.

They have them at some stations, mostly those that are not served by express trains.
 

WobbleWobble

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I don't think religion has anything to do with it. But the culture in general is very competitive. I know, I am Asian as well. If you didn't get 100%, you didn't do well enough.
 

welst10

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Originally posted by: RobCur
Originally posted by: z0mb13
peer (and family) pressure is very high

on the other hand, this is why in general asian people are more dedicated (successful) than other people
thats bs, asian are just as bad or as lazy as us american, nuff said.

LOL. true. I know I am lazy. I hate working, just want to play games and have sex with hot women eeveryday.
 

her209

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Just because there are more of us doesn't make us more prone to suicide.
 

FuZoR

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i'm asian and a complete utter failure as the "model minority"...

meh
growing up, I got by class sleeping through and did crappy work.. breezed by with Bs.
Sadly my attitude has not change :( taking its toll in college im getting Cs and Failed 2 classes :(

oh as for the topic... don't know :)
 

konakona

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Originally posted by: RobCur
Originally posted by: z0mb13
peer (and family) pressure is very high

on the other hand, this is why in general asian people are more dedicated (successful) than other people
thats bs, asian are just as bad or as lazy as us american, nuff said.

what are you trying to prove? you and your stupid rice thread LOL
 

Yax

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No one bothered to mention that in Japanese society, suicide was honorable.
 

CrazyHelloDeli

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Originally posted by: FuZoR
i'm asian and a complete utter failure as the "model minority"...

meh
growing up, I got by class sleeping through and did crappy work.. breezed by with Bs.
Sadly my attitude has not change :( taking its toll in college im getting Cs and Failed 2 classes :(

oh as for the topic... don't know :)


That sir, is the kind of quality posting that keeps me coming back to ATOT. Bravo!

*Golf Clap*

:)
 

RobCur

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Originally posted by: Pandaren
At least I was well fed and never beaten. I remember reading a thread by someone here at ATOT saying his parents hit him all the time even though he did his best to please them :(
Self Torture? Child abuse? parents who beat their kid all the time are the most idiotic; they don't deserve to have any children.
 

thomsbrain

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i think this has to do with the society. in asia, it's not "the squeaky wheel gets the oil," but rather, "the nail that sticks up gets hammered down." if you see yourself as a failure, you're failing not just yourself but your whole freaking country. not only that, your personal feelings or problems are of no concern to the group unless they endanger the group. you're not encouraged to complain or show discontent. there's also a lot more stuff regarding honor. all of which adds up to people holding in their bad vibes until they can't take it anymore.
 

RobCur

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The human race are the only species that kills each other other and does self killing as well. LMAO, no other animal is as disgraceful as this!:disgust::eek: