amused's other thread about banning smoking on beaches in ca got me looking up some stats, and it got me thinking. hundreds of thousands of people die every year directly from cigarettes, alcohol, and obesity-related diseases, all of which are disgustingly simple to prevent. not to mention the hundreds of billions of dollars it costs everyone. how can so many people engage in such self-destructive behavior? is it to society's benefit for them to do so, or maybe we should consider doing something more about it? every once in a while i can have a double cheeseburger with fries, a beer, and a cig to finish it off, but obviously a lot of people can't make it an occasional thing. how can we teach people moderation? is it even possible? or is it simply something that no one should care about, because we're all gonna go sometime and if it's sooner than later then there's more stuff for the rest of us.
are americans over-indulgent?
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It's not that Americans are genetically over-indulgent, it's that Americans have the most opportunity to over-indulge.
I don't want you to teach me moderation. I want to do what I please, and if it doesn't negatively effect you, why should you care?
Also, have you ever seen "Demolition Man"? Where does it stop? Fining people for swearing? Not letting people eat a steak if they want to?
As long as people overindulge in something that doesn't harm other people, why should it be our job to prevent it? Leave the decision to them.
Hence the negatively affect you part. I do think that we need to get off our fat asses and execise and eat right, but I'll be damned if they're going to pass a law requiring me to do that. And BTW, I'm about 170lbs.
you're making my point all too easy.
do you think anyone wants to taught moderation? does that mean they don't need to be taught? and it effects me if you develop lung cancer without having adequate medical insurance, or get behind the wheel of a car after you've been drinking, or any other variety of things that would exactly negatively effect me.
See that's the thing. It doesn't negatively affect you.
Just the possbility. And last I checked we lived in a free country.
But yes, americans are over-indulgent because we're so dang wealthy. Also we're "consumers"...we like to consume and that is banged into our heads since birth.
And no I don't want to be taught how to live because maybe I don't agree with the teacher who has his own personal agenda in mind and not my liberties.
Hey, I prefer "vertically challenged".Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
...you conveniently forget to mention that you're a midget
Actually, I'm 6'1" (not that anybody really cares).
Cerb
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Wrong. It happens at predictable rates.
Last I checked we lived in a Republic, which,while not a police state, is not free.
Yes, we want. But then we want more.
As long as it doesn't affect me or anyone else, you can do whatever you want. However, many addictive things (smoking, drinking, gambling) will affect others. After all,nobody got hurt when others played the stock market...
azazyel
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You know I don't want to live in a little 1 bedroom apt, I don't want to ride a bike to work, I don't want to eat healthy all the time and I don't want to take 2 min showers. Why? Because I like flavor in my life. If everyone did the above and just lived by what they needed and not by what they wanted then this country would collapse in on itself. This would probably be a good thing in the long run but I don't care. Pass me a beer.
smoking does not affect you
gambling does not affect you
drinking does not affect you
obesity does not affect you
crime in topeka kansas does not affect you
get the picture?
did you miss my last post? yes, it does effect me. all of it does. that's the whole point. if it didn't effect me i wouldn't give a shjt. do i care that someone chooses to play video games at night instead of reading to blind kids? no. but do i care if the same person gets loaded and decides he can drive home? yes.
"This would probably be a good thing in the long run but I don't care."
right.
How does it affect you? I'd really like to know because I honestly don't see any way that it can.
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