Are American taxpayers subsidizing crab fisherman?

[techs]

So who pays for the Coast Guard to to fly out and transport a sick crewman from a crab fishing boat on the Bering Sea?
And who pays for the Coast Guard to rescue crab fisherman?
I guess, its you and me.
While most countries supply free search and rescue in their territorial waters, I know that some actualy bill the boats they aid.
And a sick crewman, well that's just like an air ambulance, isn't it?
Without the US Coast Guard would crab fisherman pool their money to pay for rescue services? i.e. insurance?
How much would a crab cost if the taxpayer didn't subsidize these things? And is the taxpayer also subsidizing the cost of crab for the Chinese, Russians, British, etc that import the crab?
Interesting issue, I think.

 

[Slew Foot]

I think its funny the boats sell the crab for like 80 cents a pound or something, and by the time its in a store it 11 bucks a pound. Some middleman is making a killing.

 

[Zorba]

Yeah I am sure those boats don't pay any fees for being allowed to fish in those waters.

 

[nonameo]

Think of the crab people!

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Zorba
Yeah I am sure those boats don't pay any fees for being allowed to fish in those waters.

They don't. It's on the wiki.

 

[shiner]

Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water the lefties come up with a new tax scheme.

 

[novasatori]

who cares?

there are bigger things we waste money on than saving some people who are in danger....

 

[gregulator]

At least they are actually doing something though, and making money at it! It's probably one of the last things we actually export from this country. I would guess the major buyers are from foreign countries.

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
I think its funny the boats sell the crab for like 80 cents a pound or something, and by the time its in a store it 11 bucks a pound. Some middleman is making a killing.

Why don't they get a better middleman? Jeez, someone is getting a huge cut and it's not the actual fishermen

 

[shocksyde]

Us crabs can't wait 'til it's people-fishin' season.

*Snap Snap*

 

[ScottMac]

They pay taxes, just like you & me.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: shinerburke
Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water the lefties come up with a new tax scheme.

how so? Where did he even say anythign about raising taxs? You and JS80 seem to love the "leftie" and "liberal" name calling a lot.



If they call for it them they should pay. I was in a motorcycle accident and was taken to the hospital by ambulance. Later I recieved a bill for said ambulance ride. Should my ride be free as well?
A lot of places are charging for these services now.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
I think its funny the boats sell the crab for like 80 cents a pound or something, and by the time its in a store it 11 bucks a pound. Some middleman is making a killing.

No, even snow crab pull $1.50/lb. King crab was over $5 when I first started watching that show - I don't remember exactly what it is today but it's more.

Also, they changed the regulation on crab fishing a while back so now the little guys don't even bother and just sell their quota to bigger ships. It's all had an effect on crab pricing and fishing.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: shinerburke
Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water the lefties come up with a new tax scheme.

how so? Where did he even say anythign about raising taxs? You and JS80 seem to love the "leftie" and "liberal" name calling a lot.



If they call for it them they should pay. I was in a motorcycle accident and was taken to the hospital by ambulance. Later I recieved a bill for said ambulance ride. Should my ride be free as well?
A lot of places are charging for these services now.

Because only a lefty would come up with a scheme to place a fee on a service that is already provided by taxpayer dollars. Tax dollars the crab fishermen themselves are paying.

You used a privte service that, if it is like the ambulance service around here, is not run by the local police or fire departments and gets no taxpayer funding.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: shinerburke
Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water the lefties come up with a new tax scheme.

how so? Where did he even say anythign about raising taxs? You and JS80 seem to love the "leftie" and "liberal" name calling a lot.



If they call for it them they should pay. I was in a motorcycle accident and was taken to the hospital by ambulance. Later I recieved a bill for said ambulance ride. Should my ride be free as well?
A lot of places are charging for these services now.

Because only a lefty would come up with a scheme to place a fee on a service that is already provided by taxpayer dollars. Tax dollars the crab fishermen themselves are paying.

You used a privte service that, if it is like the ambulance service around here, is not run by the local police or fire departments and gets no taxpayer funding.

It was a county ambulance. All the private ones went out of business.

So we should all pay more taxs to give each person the same offerings of service even if they don;t use. Sounds real liberal of you there. Why not do this with medical care and so forth? We all pay taxs right?

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: techs
So who pays for the Coast Guard to to fly out and transport a sick crewman from a crab fishing boat on the Bering Sea?
And who pays for the Coast Guard to rescue crab fisherman?
I guess, its you and me.
While most countries supply free search and rescue in their territorial waters, I know that some actualy bill the boats they aid.
And a sick crewman, well that's just like an air ambulance, isn't it?
Without the US Coast Guard would crab fisherman pool their money to pay for rescue services? i.e. insurance?
How much would a crab cost if the taxpayer didn't subsidize these things? And is the taxpayer also subsidizing the cost of crab for the Chinese, Russians, British, etc that import the crab?
Interesting issue, I think.

How is this different than anyone that requires the need of the Coast Guard for rescue?

 

[Genx87]

I actually somewhat agree with Techs on this *gasp*.

It is like the idiot mountian climbers who go up on a mountian, get hurt, then expect the taxpayers to foot their rescue for 100K.

I dont know if crab fisherman are bonded. But they should be just like the idiot who scales a mountain and gets hurt. Pay an insurance fee on the off chance you have to use a service you cant afford.

 

[piasabird]

So if you like to eat fish, maybe the Federal Government is subsidising you too! Fishing is a dangerous occupation, but we all dont mind enjoying the fish that is caught. So realax you two faced back stabbers. Next time you sit down for some lobster just remember it is fishermen that caught it. This is what the coast guard does among other things like protecting us from pirates, and drug runners.

The federal government spends money to keep people safe. They rescue victims by helicopter at land based locations all the time, not just at sea. One day you may need a medivac helicopter to get you to a hospital in a hurry.

 

[LTC8K6]

"One day you may need a medivac helicopter to get you to a hospital in a hurry."

Which will cost you or your insurance company a boatload of cash.

Speaking of paying for Coast Guard rescues, they get a surprising amount of prank calls, which they have to respond to. Those are really wasting a lot of money.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Zorba
Yeah I am sure those boats don't pay any fees for being allowed to fish in those waters.

They don't. It's on the wiki.

That's odd. I watch the show fairly regularly and I get that they do pay fees.

Jeez, I just googled it. Looks like they pay state and fed gov fees.

How often does any one ship require the Coast Guard services? From what I can see there are hundreds of ships out there, and it's rare for one to need Coast Guard assistance.

But I do think they should contribute something, if they don't already.

Fern

 

[idiotekniQues]

this is a good function of the federal government - to help protect honest hardworking commerce in action, with our taxdollars.

as a progressive, this is a non-issue.

now as far as other military type spending, well, dont get me started

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: techs
So who pays for the Coast Guard to to fly out and transport a sick crewman from a crab fishing boat on the Bering Sea?
And who pays for the Coast Guard to rescue crab fisherman?
I guess, its you and me.
While most countries supply free search and rescue in their territorial waters, I know that some actualy bill the boats they aid.
And a sick crewman, well that's just like an air ambulance, isn't it?
Without the US Coast Guard would crab fisherman pool their money to pay for rescue services? i.e. insurance?
How much would a crab cost if the taxpayer didn't subsidize these things? And is the taxpayer also subsidizing the cost of crab for the Chinese, Russians, British, etc that import the crab?
Interesting issue, I think.

You do know that they help other kinds of people on the water, right? That they are not there exclusively for the crabbers, right? And that they don't just patrol the Alaskan waters exclusively, right?

I don't see what your problem is here. They do the same thing for weekend boaters in Florida. The Coast Guard would be in Alaska with or without the crabbers and other fishermen. Plus it's the #1 fishing fleet in North America... isn't that worth protecting?