Are all religions false?

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: karma4jake

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: karma4jake
The fun thing is that I did a co-op in a quality control dept of a factory at a plant. The two techs working there were both baptist ministers and both great guys. One was especially nice and I'd often ask him questions during lunch just to pick his brain over things. The worst part is when you say to him "so as long as you're a good person in your life you'll go to heaven right" Wrong..... unless you're a devout christian you're going to hell. So this really nice guy can look me in the face and tell me I"m going to hell because I don't go to church every Sunday? BTW no animals go to heaven either if you were wondering.. Fido won't be tagging along in the afterlife with ya. Jews.... hell. Muslims.... hell... Zoroastrians.... hell.. Well they definately paint a bright picture for any "nonbelievers".

That' incorrect. Church attendence has NOTHING to do with going to Heaven or Hell other than you might learn something about them while in church.

According to Christianity: the only way to eternal life (Heaven) is through belief in Jesus Christ as your savior and believing that he died on the cross for our sins and was resurrected three days later. If you honestly believe that in your heart, you have salvation. You could never set foot in a church, never join in any religious gathering, and you will still have salvation.

Church is a support group; it is NOT the path to heaven.

Thank you for the correction as I'm not well versed in the Bible. One might argue that only those that truely beleive in Jesus will attend church weekly to honor him. Either way I believe I'm too logical of a think to believe that Jesus was the son of god simply because he claimed to be. Then according to your facts I could attend church every Wed/Sun for the rest of my life and not go to heaven.

Yes, according to Christianity, acting out a ritual (going to church every Wed/Sun) without belief makes it hollow. God is not a simple piece of AI software, he knows everything; he knows the heart of every man. Intentions are weighed.

Please note: I'm not telling you what to believe or try to convince you to share my beliefs. I'm simply trying to correct misconceptions about Christianity. What you do with this information is, of course, your choice.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: shimsham
sweet, another religious thread. i needed my daily dose of immaturity, egos, and people that know it all and have it all figured out.

thank you, op!

 

[karma4jake]

Another thing that picks my brain about the universe is that its been proven that the universe is expanding. Yet think about this, what lies beyond the farthest galaxies? Imagine a truely endless space. In this world we think of things with tangible distances/spaces but imagine a lack of anything for endless billions of miles. That messes with my head more than anything. The concept of infinity is really common in upper level mathematics but when you really apply it to a real world distance/time example it really hits home.

 

[Powermoloch]

christian god sounds pretty familiar to the other gods I know off @_@

 

[karma4jake]

According to muslims they believe in the same god. They just don't recognize Jesus as the son of god. They recognize him in some significance however thats not enough for Christians because all Muslims are going to hell lol.

 

[Powermoloch]

Originally posted by: karma4jake
According to muslims they believe in the same god. They just don't recognize Jesus as the son of god. They recognize him in some significance however thats not enough for Christians because all Muslims are going to hell lol.

lol that's kinda funny . <-- muslim

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: karma4jake
The problem with religion is that it is in the end is completely unprovable. Was Jesus a real man... probably. Was he the son of god... probably not. Did he carry a good message/ theory to life... probably. Many stories/events of the bible may be true but counless are probably false or unbelievable. Are we to believe that thousands of years ago miracles and impossibilities of physics were commonplace but for some reason they lack modern existance? Was Muhammad a man.... maybe, but did he receive a divine vision while in a cave... maybe but that would probably be considered a mental condition in today's society. Religion is really all in the faith of arguitive text and will probably never be proven or disproven completely. If you're familiar with astronomy and "lightyears" you know that many images captured by satillites telescopes are far older than when the beginning of the world should have been according to the bible and other religous texts.

That is why many religious people do not take the bible literally. Don't lump them in with the people who actually believe that the earth was created in 6 days.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: SketchMaster
Well, Can someone tell me where the universe, and all that resides in it, came from?

Yes yes, the "Big bang". But where did that matter come from? did it just show up one day?

No one really knows do they? Yet you people swear up and down that there can in no way be some sort of higher being that happens to take an interest in the comings and goings of this planet?

What kind of logic is that?

Where did god come from? Did he just show up one day?

What kind of logic is that?

Uh...so one man has faith in the big bang, the other in a supreme power.

Is either man wrong? No.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: karma4jake
According to muslims they believe in the same god. They just don't recognize Jesus as the son of god. They recognize him in some significance however thats not enough for Christians because all Muslims are going to hell lol.

The main foundation of Christianity is the belief that Jesus Christ is the son of God and is the savior of this world.

Jews believe in the same God as Christians. The difference is that Jews are still waiting for the prophesized messiah while Christians believe Jesus is that messiah.

I don't know enough about other religions to feel I'm qualified to make many comments but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that muslims believe in the same/similar God. There are many similiarities in the major religions which, in my opinion, leads credence to the idea that there is a God.

 

[Powermoloch]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: karma4jake
According to muslims they believe in the same god. They just don't recognize Jesus as the son of god. They recognize him in some significance however thats not enough for Christians because all Muslims are going to hell lol.

The main foundation of Christianity is the belief that Jesus Christ is the son of God and is the savior of this world.

Jews believe in the same God as Christians. The difference is that Jews are still waiting for the prophesized messiah while Christians believe Jesus is that messiah.

I don't know enough about other religions to feel I'm qualified to make many comments but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that muslims believe in the same/similar God. There are many similiarities in the major religions which, in my opinion, leads credence to the idea that there is a God.

mmmmm

 

[Perknose]

You can't argue differences in faith, and you can't use logic to prove or disprove religious beliefs, since they are grounded in faith, which is quite apart from logic. But that doesn't seem to ever stop people from doing so.

Otoh, bonobos and dolphins -- there's a couple of species that know how to have a good time. And THAT, my friends, is a fact!

 

[karma4jake]

There was a series last year called 30 days IIRC that had people put in situations completely opposite of what they are normally accustomed to had them live that way for 30 days. The series was done by the guy from "Supersize Me" and IMO was done extremely well. One show had a Christian from the south live with a Muslim family and follow their customs for one month. He was incredibly resistant for quite some time, it almost seemed as if he felt like they were asking him to worship satan. The Muslim priests(?) tried to explain to him numerous times that they beleive in the same God as his religion. I feel in the end he finally saw the big picture. Its a very good show and if they do a second season I'd highly reccomend it. They do a different scenario every week.

 

[Leros]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: SketchMaster
Well, Can someone tell me where the universe, and all that resides in it, came from?

Yes yes, the "Big bang". But where did that matter come from? did it just show up one day?

No one really knows do they? Yet you people swear up and down that there can in no way be some sort of higher being that happens to take an interest in the comings and goings of this planet?

What kind of logic is that?

Where did god come from? Did he just show up one day?

What kind of logic is that?

Uh...so one man has faith in the big bang, the other in a supreme power.

Is either man wrong? No.

One or both of them could be wrong.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: JToxic

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: SketchMaster
Well, Can someone tell me where the universe, and all that resides in it, came from?

Yes yes, the "Big bang". But where did that matter come from? did it just show up one day?

No one really knows do they? Yet you people swear up and down that there can in no way be some sort of higher being that happens to take an interest in the comings and goings of this planet?

What kind of logic is that?

Where did god come from? Did he just show up one day?

What kind of logic is that?

Uh...so one man has faith in the big bang, the other in a supreme power.

Is either man wrong? No.

One or both of them could be wrong.

Could be...could be...but are they? No, because we can not prove either one right or wrong.

So for now neither of them are wrong.

 

[DeeKnow]

it's all a load of crap.... I don't care which load of crap you prefer

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: Aimster
yes

/end thread

And all this time you were pretending to be a mulsim! FUTARD!:disgust:

 

[IAteYourMother]

You will never know

/end thread

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
You will never know

/end thread

Finally someone who gets it.

Thanks. :thumbsup:

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: OdiN
Interesting...Mormonism they chose eh...I'd say it's more of a Cult than a Religion.

There is NO DIFFERENCE between a cult and a religion, save the number of followers.

 

[Mucho]

It is of course just as impossible for me to prove that all religions are false as it is for believers to prove that religions are true.

 

[l Xes l]

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
religion is dumb, people that believe it are dumb

bring it

enuff said

 

[Excelsior]

*sigh*

 

[freakflag]

Whether you believe in Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, or The Great Galactic Banana Giver Of All That Is Awesome, if it gets you through the day and you're a better person because of it...it's all good with me.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: freakflag
Whether you believe in Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, or The Great Galactic Banana Giver Of All That Is Awesome, if it gets you through the day and you're a better person because of it...it's all good with me.

:thumbsup:

 

[Leros]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: freakflag
Whether you believe in Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, or The Great Galactic Banana Giver Of All That Is Awesome, if it gets you through the day and you're a better person because of it...it's all good with me.

:thumbsup:

Agreed, as long as their views aren't being impressed upon me.