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jpeyton

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56k'ers need to upgrade or stick to text-only browsers.

The world shouldn't be structured around the slowest common denominator. Maybe on Medicaid forums, but not here, where the user base is overwhelming broadband.
 

compuwiz1

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Wrong place to ask this question. Unless you're new, you'd automatically know that all of ATOT is on T-pluto or better. ;)
 

herbiehancock

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
56k'ers need to upgrade or stick to text-only browsers.

The world shouldn't be structured around the slowest common denominator. Maybe on Medicaid forums, but not here, where the user base is overwhelming broadband.

OK....upgrade my house then. Come on out and string something for the 15 miles to town so I can get cable or DSL. Shouldn't cost you too much.
 

EagleKeeper

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Some people here apparently have led very sheltered lives.

There are large parts of the country where there is only telephone lines or jsut Sat phones (cost of lines is to great).

Cable/DSL is unknown dishTV may not work due to the terrain.

Then there are people who are not tied to the internet for their daily fix.
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: CKent
No. While there are a decent number of people out there on dialup, I don't think we need warnings plastered all over the place.

What part of half your visitors do you not get?

The part you fail to realize is that just because 50% of the country is on dial-up, doesn't mean that 50% of a target audience is.

While 50% of google's audience may very well be on dial-up, I'd imagine that only 5% of NewEgg's traffic is.

Current AT Poll: 27 to 2. Forget the Dial-Up people. Sucks for them, but they shouldn't have to be told by now that their internet service sucks ass.

NO reason to make uncessarry sacrifices to cater to 5%, IMHO. I design standard-compliant sites, but I don't waste my time checking in browsers other than IE and Firefox. MAYBE Safari, and that's only because it's easy to check if I have my mac turned on.

Now if you can design just fine with small files, great, more power to you. But there is NO reason to do it otherwise.

I don't see how you can get away with that. The company redesigning our corporate web presence is testing on IE6 on PC, IE7 on PC, Firefox on PC, Opera on PC , and different Mac configs. Why throw away potential business because your page is unreadable on their browser & computer config.
 

DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Wrong place to ask this question. Unless you're new, you'd automatically know that all of ATOT is on T-pluto or better. ;)

How dare you suggest I have such a slow-ass link.
 

smack Down

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: CKent
No. While there are a decent number of people out there on dialup, I don't think we need warnings plastered all over the place.

What part of half your visitors do you not get?

The part you fail to realize is that just because 50% of the country is on dial-up, doesn't mean that 50% of a target audience is.

While 50% of google's audience may very well be on dial-up, I'd imagine that only 5% of NewEgg's traffic is.

Current AT Poll: 27 to 2. Forget the Dial-Up people. Sucks for them, but they shouldn't have to be told by now that their internet service sucks ass.

NO reason to make uncessarry sacrifices to cater to 5%, IMHO. I design standard-compliant sites, but I don't waste my time checking in browsers other than IE and Firefox. MAYBE Safari, and that's only because it's easy to check if I have my mac turned on.

Now if you can design just fine with small files, great, more power to you. But there is NO reason to do it otherwise.

This is why I completely and totally hate developers. They don't understand computing and believe resources are infinite.

I see it every day - very bad programming, bad developer, inefficient, back to your hole

Free ram is wasted ram.
 

DougK62

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Originally posted by: nonameo
Personally, I say no. There's hardly a person with dial-up anymore.

edit: added poll

LOL. Look outside of your little box. Tons of people still use dialup.

 

Bryophyte

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:( I'm stuck on dialup. Today, I have a blazing fast 16.8Kbps connection. :| Some days, it's as high as 24Kbps. Bad phonelines, FTL.
 

Injury

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Jul 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: CKent
No. While there are a decent number of people out there on dialup, I don't think we need warnings plastered all over the place.

What part of half your visitors do you not get?

The part you fail to realize is that just because 50% of the country is on dial-up, doesn't mean that 50% of a target audience is.

While 50% of google's audience may very well be on dial-up, I'd imagine that only 5% of NewEgg's traffic is.

Current AT Poll: 27 to 2. Forget the Dial-Up people. Sucks for them, but they shouldn't have to be told by now that their internet service sucks ass.

NO reason to make uncessarry sacrifices to cater to 5%, IMHO. I design standard-compliant sites, but I don't waste my time checking in browsers other than IE and Firefox. MAYBE Safari, and that's only because it's easy to check if I have my mac turned on.

Now if you can design just fine with small files, great, more power to you. But there is NO reason to do it otherwise.

I don't see how you can get away with that. The company redesigning our corporate web presence is testing on IE6 on PC, IE7 on PC, Firefox on PC, Opera on PC , and different Mac configs. Why throw away potential business because your page is unreadable on their browser & computer config.

Because site logs are a better stat to go by than potential stats.

Again, it's all about audience. If I were designing a site gearted to techies and ONLY techies, there would be a big chance of alternate browsers, but as it stands, most of the sites I design have .1% or less browsers other than MSIE and Mozilla based, and I feel I can safely attribute that .1% to safari, which can't render a perfectly standards compliant site correctly to save it's life.
 

Injury

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Jul 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: CKent
No. While there are a decent number of people out there on dialup, I don't think we need warnings plastered all over the place.

What part of half your visitors do you not get?

The part you fail to realize is that just because 50% of the country is on dial-up, doesn't mean that 50% of a target audience is.

While 50% of google's audience may very well be on dial-up, I'd imagine that only 5% of NewEgg's traffic is.

Current AT Poll: 27 to 2. Forget the Dial-Up people. Sucks for them, but they shouldn't have to be told by now that their internet service sucks ass.

NO reason to make uncessarry sacrifices to cater to 5%, IMHO. I design standard-compliant sites, but I don't waste my time checking in browsers other than IE and Firefox. MAYBE Safari, and that's only because it's easy to check if I have my mac turned on.

Now if you can design just fine with small files, great, more power to you. But there is NO reason to do it otherwise.

This is why I completely and totally hate developers. They don't understand computing and believe resources are infinite.

I see it every day - very bad programming, bad developer, inefficient, back to your hole

Free ram is wasted ram.

I 90% agree. I didn't build a system with a 2.4GHz Processor and 2GB of RAM so that I could I could run under powered and low-memory applications.

I understand, though, that having NO concern for the resources being used by a program is horrible practice. You don't need a media app that uses 500MB of RAM, but a graphics app that will eat every bit it can find is perfectly acceptable.
 

potato28

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No, especially when you can get medium speed internet in the middle of the praries now(Bell Canada).