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Arctic silver 5 is kinda meh

Zebo

Zebo

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Well I finally ran out, after 3 years and at least 75 TIMS my AS3 was all gone today. So i opened the AS5 I got from da egg and this stuff is pretty lame. Viscosity is not so good. Real thick, hard to spread, It tends to "clump" and/or not stick to substrate when spreading a real thin TIM like I like. I was so used to a "cloudy" layer on both Waterblock and Processor for optimal gap fill while providing the least thermal resistance with super thin layer.

Not so with AS5 Need a thicker layer for it even to stick to processor, or else my latex gloves it decides to stick to instead of substrate. Anyway temps are up about 4C cause I glob it on to stay🙁

Looking for something else.
 
I usually use one of my credit or phone cards, which works very well for me. Not sure if you've tried that before, but it's worth a shot.
 
I'm going to try that. has about half as good thermal properties as AS5 though..no idea how that translates to real world. If I can spread it thinner it will be better no doubt.

Maybe I just got a bad batch..
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
I'm going to try that. has about half as good thermal properties as AS5 though..no idea how that translates to real world. If I can spread it thinner it will be better no doubt.

Maybe I just got a bad batch..
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mine was thick as well, very hard to spread, but I did my best and hope the pressure spread it out evenly (which it did🙂). Hardens up real hard, almost pulled the procesor right out of the socket.
 
speaking of, is it bad on a CPU to pull it directly out of the socket. I use AS5 and I think its great, it is thicker but I use a P4 so I did not view it as a big deal.
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
I'm going to try that. has about half as good thermal properties as AS5 though..no idea how that translates to real world. If I can spread it thinner it will be better no doubt.

Maybe I just got a bad batch..
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you didn't get a bad batch.. seems the consistency has changed from AS3 substantially.

It was a pain to apply to the heatsink with my ziplock bag.. AS3 is really easy to apply in comparison.
 
according to the tutorials i;ve read for applying AS5, you arent really supposed to spread it out for A64's.

the directions say to put a little smaller than BB size pellet drop in the center (where the actual processor is under the amd heat spreader) and clamp on the HS and twist a degree to the left and right then finally tighten all the way. it spreads out on its own to the correct thickeness under pressure. heres the link http://www.arcticsilver.com/ar...ilver_instructions.htm

that plastic bag stuff is only for AS 1, 2, 3 afaik
 
Originally posted by: fixxxer0
according to the tutorials i;ve read for applying AS5, you arent really supposed to spread it out for A64's.

the directions say to put a little smaller than BB size pellet drop in the center (where the actual processor is under the amd heat spreader) and clamp on the HS and twist a degree to the left and right then finally tighten all the way. it spreads out on its own to the correct thickeness under pressure. heres the link http://www.arcticsilver.com/ar...ilver_instructions.htm

that plastic bag stuff is only for AS 1, 2, 3 afaik
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Sure......Now that I covered the whole top of my new FX-55 with AS5 just to realize I put my waterblock on backwards......Almost had a heart attack when I pulled the cpu out of the socket trying to get the block off...
 
the as5 is only supposed to contact the center where the core sits under the spreader, not all over the spreader. thats why the suggest a small pellet in the center. It was too thick for my piece of mind, but I trust it. Do the temp readings come directly from the core or from the spreader?
 
Originally posted by: Quino
I swithced to the ceramique and I love it. also a lot easier to clean.
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Yeah, Céramique is awesome stuff. Just apply the "Grain of rice" or "pellet" in the centre of the slug and slap your heatsink on (not literally) and you are good to go! I believe the same applies for AS5 - just use the little pellet and the Heatsink should have enough pressure to press that pellet flat.
 
Originally posted by: gururu
the as5 is only supposed to contact the center where the core sits under the spreader, not all over the spreader. thats why the suggest a small pellet in the center. It was too thick for my piece of mind, but I trust it. Do the temp readings come directly from the core or from the spreader?
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I don't have a spreader. Temps taken with same board, same bios, same speed, same volts onboard diode./// Granted those things arn't accurate but in a relative sense it is.
 
I haven't used silver based compounds in years and I certainly don't mess..I mean miss them 😉
 
I've been using a tube of Arctic SilverII for the last couple of years, which spread out great. when I bought my new SI-97 I ordered the AS5 and found the same thing to thick and clumpy when spread with a baggy or latex glove. I did try the "grain od rice" method and got good coverage but used to much and had it hanging off the sides of the core.

My temps are great so I'm doing my best to just leave it alone, I always seem to be swapping H/S, chips, etc.. To keep from pulling your chip out of the socket I would try removing the H/S immediately after shutting down,so that the AS5 may not be so hard
 
I noticed AS5 was a lot thicker than my used-up AS3 on my last 3000+ build, so I put the tube in a ziploc baggie and dipped it in boiling water for a few minutes (don't leave it in there!) and took it out and shook it. Seems like a lot of work for a BB size but it did seem to let the stuff loosen up a bit and maybe even helped redistribute the particles when I shook it.. dunno, but my 3000+ OC'ed to 2500 is 29°C idle and 39°C load viua diode with a Tt Silent Boost and slightly higher than normalvoltage. I'll be using AS5 today on a Deleron 330J/915 rig I'm building so we see how it fairs with the hot procs...
 
Originally posted by: dripgoss
I noticed AS5 was a lot thicker than my used-up AS3 on my last 3000+ build, so I put the tube in a ziploc baggie and dipped it in boiling water for a few minutes (don't leave it in there!) and took it out and shook it. Seems like a lot of work for a BB size but it did seem to let the stuff loosen up a bit and maybe even helped redistribute the particles when I shook it.. dunno, but my 3000+ OC'ed to 2500 is 29°C idle and 39°C load viua diode with a Tt Silent Boost and slightly higher than normalvoltage. I'll be using AS5 today on a Deleron 330J/915 rig I'm building so we see how it fairs with the hot procs...
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thats a pretty good idea. i'll have to try that out next time.
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
I haven't used silver based compounds in years and I certainly don't mess..I mean miss them 😉
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using cerameek?
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For sktA yes, I like CoolerMaster Premium for lidded CPUs. The application technique' takes awhile to get down pat but it is great after that. I have also used various Shin-Etsu compounds in the past but the price per application cost would make your thrifty a$$ have a heart attack :brokenheart: 😛 😉
 
I still have some AS3 abd AS5 but i only use ceramique. I honestly diid not notice any change of temperaure at all after I swithched to the ceramique. I aply a small goop (about the size of a rice on the center) and apply the heatsink. It works good enough for me 🙂
 
well i put to rest my AS 1 a few months back.

yeah its still got some in the tube but i felt i needed an upgrade.

anyway after a busy few months my 3.5g of as5 ran out.

well my point is if you think as5 is thick, try the stuff cooler master ships with its cooler.


I swear I spent more time putting the stuff on that building the whole computer.

I resorted to a razor blade, I think I ended up using the whole tube out. not on the IHS mind you, simply on trying to get it on the IHS evenly.

 
I learned about pulling the processor out of the socket the hard way over a year ago with AS5. It left a lot of bent pins and eventually one broke off.. Never again.

I still use AS5, but now when I remove the sinks (running a dually) I remove them right after shut down. The compound is very moist and slippery then, and I twist the sink back and forth untill it pops free, leaving my processors intact in the sockets.
 
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: Quino
I swithced to the ceramique and I love it. also a lot easier to clean.
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Yeah, Céramique is awesome stuff. Just apply the "Grain of rice" or "pellet" in the centre of the slug and slap your heatsink on (not literally) and you are good to go! I believe the same applies for AS5 - just use the little pellet and the Heatsink should have enough pressure to press that pellet flat.
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What's the difference between it and the regular AS5?
 
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