ARCHOS Mini Jukebox 15GB MP3 Recorder - $159.99

[gspyer]

Just an update, unless I got a gimped one, the Archos 15GB MP3 Recorder is NOT USB 2.0. It doesn't even pull that USB 2.0 High-Speed/Full-Speed crap. Instead it just says USB 2.0 compatible and the box says 1MB/sec transfer speed.

Now it could just the 15GB HD is slow, my USB 2.0 card is bad, or my expectations for the speed of the device is too high, but it appears to me it is actually USB 1.1.

Did anyone else order/have this MP3 player? Was it running at true USB 2.0 for you?

 

[kitejumping]

i got the archos 20gb fm recorder a little bit ago (for 222$) and it does way more than the ipod will (with the opensource firmware upgrade of course) rockbox open source jukebox firmware fyi may as well pay the extra bucks and get a good one the recorder is only 200 and i doubt that many people here want a radio streamripper in it too

 

[lordofdeath]

I received the 15G and it is a usb 1 with usb2.0 compatible.
they send me a use unit so i return it.

 

[pcstuff]

Deal seems to be dead. Too bad, I had already gotten out my credit card.

 

[snowpeas]

its so ugly though. I saw someone that was carrying it, its ugly and big.

 

[nphelge]

Just curious if anyone can verify if the 15GB Recorder actually supports USB 2.0 transfer rates. I just got one of these devices, but I only have USB 1.0 on my PC, so can't verify the transfer rate. My box had a sticker slapped on the outside that states "USB 2.0 Compatible", but I would hope that someone can provide definitive info before I go out and buy a USB 2.0 card.

Thanks in advance

 

[TerryMathews]

It looks as though Outpost pulled a fast one as they no longer offer the JB15 for sale... Hmmm.

 

[lordofdeath]

it is a usb 1 not usb 2. it says on the box that the unit is compatible with usb2. NOT USB2 Speed

 

[addragyn]

The USB Issue

USB Forum creates USB 2.0 consumer confusion (theinquirer.net)

 

[nj]

Originally posted by: lordofdeath
it is a usb 1 not usb 2. it says on the box that the unit is compatible with usb2. NOT USB2 Speed

I don't know for certain if the ones from Outpost are USB 2.0, but I'm fairly certain they make a Hi-Speed USB 2.0 15gb model:

From their FAQ page:

My Jukebox Recorder 15 / 20 came with USB 2.0, what is this and how do I use it?

A: USB (Universal Serial Bus) is a peripheral-to-PC connection. If your computer has USB 2.0 you will be able to take advantage of high speed data transfer (i.e. copy files quicker to your Jukebox). Most computers come with USB 1.1 ports located on the front and back panels of your computer. Note: Always use the USB plug on the back of your computer as the front one does not always work with devices that require power.

USB 1.1 transfers data up to 12 Mbps

USB 2.0 transfers data up to 480 Mbps

USB 2.0 device are backwardly compatible with existing USB technology. This means that you can use your Jukebox on a USB 1.1 equipped computer but will only be able to transfer data at USB 1.1 speed. If you have a computer with USB 2.0 you will be able to transfer data at USB 2.0 speed.

Until I hear from a person who ordered and received a 1.1 model instead of a hi-spead 2.0, I'll keep my order active.

 

[TerryMathews]

And to add insult to injury there is both a USB 1.1 and a USB 2.0 high speed version of the Jukebox Recorder 15. You're supposed to be able to tell by the color of the bumpers on the corners (grey is newer), but evidently Outpost wasn't shipping the same product they had pictured?

 

[nphelge]

Originally posted by: TerryMathews
And to add insult to injury there is both a USB 1.1 and a USB 2.0 high speed version of the Jukebox Recorder 15. You're supposed to be able to tell by the color of the bumpers on the corners (grey is newer), but evidently Outpost wasn't shipping the same product they had pictured?

The one I got has dark gray/black bumpers, but I have seen recorders with blue bumpers as well. Has anyone who received one with gray/black bumpers been able to use USB 2.0 transfer rates? Someone else suggested the bumper color issue previously, but I haven't heard it confirmed yet.

Thanks in advance

 

[lordofdeath]

ok,
the One i got and returned was a USB1.0 with the blue color. I bought the 20gig version and it is a grey color.

 

[TerryMathews]

Originally posted by: lordofdeath
ok,
the One i got and returned was a USB1.0 with the blue color. I bought the 20gig version and it is a grey color.

All of the 20 gig Recorders are USB2.0.

 

[nyarrgh]

just got back from Fry's. The one they have is not the faster USB model. It's the 12Mb /second (not the 480Mb/second. They also have the 20GB Recorder that IS the 480 Mb/Second. The Archos website and tech support also has no knowledge of a 15 GB USB2 version.

 

[ThaiBruin]

mine is definitely USB 2.0. transferred a gig of songs in less than 5 minutes or so

 

[lkleptol]

Since my Outpost order got cancelled and there are no Fry's on the East Coast. I think im going for the deal at circuit city for the 20Gig version for $199 after $30 rebate. Sux though b/c I will be paying for tax.

 

[nphelge]

Originally posted by: ThaiBruin
mine is definitely USB 2.0. transferred a gig of songs in less than 5 minutes or so

Is yours a Jukebox Recorder 15? If so, what are the bumper colors?

Thanks in advance

 

[kitejumping]

if you get this upgrade the firmware to rockbox it greatly improves its features.

 

[nphelge]

Dallas area Fry's have this item listed for $160 for this weekend, even though it isn't available from outpost anymore. Check the price at other area Fry's.

 

[axskkyline]

good deal, but i already got zen =p

 

[Shred]

I bought the 20 gig recorder model at CC, after cancelling my Fry's order. I am a bit disappointed with the 1.1 Usb
transfer speed though. I've already have had to replace the charger. The recorder didn't come with a pouch, which I was a bit miffed about. I went back to CC, and explained my position. They promptly opened a box to a Jukebox Multimedia and gave me a pouch. I already own a 5 gig player model, which is actually more stable when I take it along for a walk. The 20 Gig drops out when I walk, The 5 Gig doesn"t have that problem.

 

[nphelge]

Originally posted by: Shred
I bought the 20 gig recorder model at CC, after cancelling my Fry's order. I am a bit disappointed with the 1.1 Usb
transfer speed though. I've already have had to replace the charger. The recorder didn't come with a pouch, which I was a bit miffed about. I went back to CC, and explained my position. They promptly opened a box to a Jukebox Multimedia and gave me a pouch. I already own a 5 gig player model, which is actually more stable when I take it along for a walk. The 20 Gig drops out when I walk, The 5 Gig doesn"t have that problem.

If your package didn't include a pouch, I would be suspicious that it was previously owned or refurbed. Also, the latest JBR 15 & 20 are USB 2.0 - supposedly the indication of a newer model is that the corner bumpers are black instead of blue.

 

[kitejumping]

you can now overwrite the flash rom and boot rockbox from flash.... i can be listening to the song it was playing when i turned it off (to the sec) within 3 seconds of pusing the power button.


get rockbox

 

['BARtMAN']

/me takes a hammer smashes self in the head...

Ok people... Do not say it's USB 2.0, It's the rev of a spec, not a speed rating!

In USB 2.0 spec there is Low-speed (1.5Mbits|192Kbytes/sec), Full-speed (12Mbits|1.5Mbytes/sec), Hi-speed (480Mbits|60Mbytes/sec)

USB (1.0) started with Low-speed(as it's called in the USB 2.0 spec), USB 1.1 introduced Full-Speed, and 2.0 added Hi-speed. So for now on, PLEASE refer to them ONLY as [Low/Full/Hi]-speed USB... Just leave the USB 2.0 off completely in fact!

As other people have said in this thread, just because they say it's this speed, doesn't mean that USB-IF inc, certified it as this. Even if they did (check here to see). It won't mean it will be at the full bus rate the whole(if at all) time you use it.