Arafat Op-Ed In NY Times

[Aelus]

<< You really don't know much about M.E. history do you? Go and research the Jaffa riots to see where it started.

What would your response be to someone from a different culture or race moving onto your neighborhood?
Would you condemn someone for terrorizing someone for moving into their neighborhood? >>



you mean like the USA's policy on mexican imigrants?

Every side has some blames on them, because you seem to think the palestinians are the demons, i'll tell you something i was going to hold back because i consider it pretty bad taste to bring it up.

in the thirties, zionist settlers collaborated with nazi germany to deport jews from germany to israel. Ben Goerion even said a couple of days after kristalnacht, that if he could bring half of the german jews to israel, he'd prefer that over saving them all by getting them to england.

In the deal with the german government, jewish citizens were allowed to move out the country, and take a considerable amount of their wealth with them, if they'd spend all that money on german goods. That was a huge push for the nazi industry, and at the same time it meant a huge push for the zionists, because they had new settlers, and a huge influx of industrial goods.

To go in detail, the agreement said every jew who wishes to leave could take 1000 pounds in cash and goods worth 20000 reichsmark with them. so basically, the zionists in the thirties were collaboraters with the nazi's.

Will you ever understand this whole mess isn't because the palestinians or the israeli's are devils? And frankly, the past is pretty irrelevant, because it doesn't matter how many times you dig in the past, it won't solve a thing, the only thing that will solve something, is that jewish israelis would start treating palestinians as their equals, that a palestinian state with full rights emerges, and that a solution to the refugee problem is found. THAT will solve the problem, fighting a symptom won't.

oh, and i still would like to see proof that the palestinians asked to be invaded in '48, some riots 20 years earlier don't prove a thing.

Aelus

 

[Nefrodite]

better to support the jews. don't want all the arab states winning and becoming ultra arogant, then direct their fury at the us nsf4 might say they are the same but they aren't, just look at womens rights in israel compared to other places. if the palestinians gained power fundamentalists would probably start cracking down.

 

[etech]

Aelus,

you mean like the USA's policy on mexican imigrants?

Exactly like that. The U.S. has accepted hundreds of thousands of of Mexican imigrants. It is projected that Latino's will become the most common race in the U.S. in a few years. Have you seen American terrorists blowing up Mexicans?

oh, and i still would like to see proof that the palestinians asked to be invaded in '48,

As long as you insist on an answer to that, my only reply is that you do not know what has happened in that area and should study the history of Zionism back to the 1905 conference, the Balfour declartion, the White paper and U.N. resolution 181. The example you provide only shows you lack of understanding of why the Jews felt so strongly that they needed a national homeland.

I will answer it with one question. What country was in control of Palestine in 1948?

When you have studied those topics come back and tell me what difference it would have made if the Palestinians would have accepted U.N. resolution 181 instead of flatly rejecting it because they did not want infidels living on Arab soil.

 

[Aelus]

because i'm too lazy to look up those things, i'll halt that discussion about the past.

the current problem remains however, there is still no solution for the refugees, 20% of the israeli population faces discimination because they speak a different language, and have a different skin color, the only point of light is that there's more and more support for an independant palestinian state, but i doubt that will solve much.

Aelus

 

[etech]

In other words you are completely uninformed about how the two sides got to this state and "too lazy" to inform yourself, yet you know enough to declare how the problem should be solved.

Europeans call Americans arrogant and uninformed. Sheesh.

 

[Aelus]

Well, please enlighten us how you think the problem could be solved?

Aelus