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I didnt know HTC had a store in pretty much every major city in the US and could fix your phone while you are eating lunch. They must have built those stores pretty quickly.

I live in NYC where there are something like 6 Apple stores. You see ads for the Surface on every billboard and train station, but the closest Microsoft Store is in Danbury, Connecticut. Have you even heard of Danbury, Connecticut? Neither have I.
 
I'm sick of all the major players suing each other or crying about how they have such a hard time in the business where the phones that cost them $200 to manufacture sell for $650.
Things are just getting started. Google vs Rockstar Consortium (Apple, Micorsoft, Sony, Blackberry, Ericsson) is up next.
 
I have never heard someone mock applecare before. Can you show me another company that will fix or give you a free replacement if you crack the screen of your smartphone?

Best Buy. I got their protection plan and they replaced my smashed Optimus G for free.
 
fixed that for you. Applecare is free for the first year. No extra 'protection plan' required.

Is that supposed to be special? LG also offers a 1 yr warranty too.

Applecare and most other extended warranty plans are for suckers since most electronics will either fail within warranty period or work fine beyond it, assuming normal use. If you think Apple isn't making money off their extended warranty applecare then wake the fuck up.

Figure 3
Apple's Extended Warranty Run Rate
Premiums Paid vs. Total Revenue
Fiscal Year 2000 to 2012
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While it varies each year, Apple is still pulling in 2-4% profit from applecare and sheep like you are still buying it. Then again, I can't say I half blame you guys when Apple's m-o in the past has been to intentionally make it hard to repair their shit, like ipods.
http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/1306/

Simple solution: Steer clear of apple in the first place. It's worked well for my needs.
 
Is that supposed to be special? LG also offers a 1 yr warranty too.

Applecare and most other extended warranty plans are for suckers since most electronics will either fail within warranty period or work fine beyond it, assuming normal use. If you think Apple isn't making money off their extended warranty applecare then wake the fuck up.

Figure 3
Apple's Extended Warranty Run Rate
Premiums Paid vs. Total Revenue
Fiscal Year 2000 to 2012
fig3.gif


While it varies each year, Apple is still pulling in 2-4% profit from applecare and sheep like you are still buying it. Then again, I can't say I half blame you guys when Apple's m-o in the past has been to intentionally make it hard to repair their shit, like ipods.
http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/1306/

Simple solution: Steer clear of apple in the first place. It's worked well for my needs.

You have your head so far up your ass it aint even funny. I didn't pay a dime for applecare. I didn't pay a dime to get my phone screen fixed. I didnt pay a dime to get a new charger for my Macbook when it broke. All of this, with no extended warranty, no mailing in any products waiting 3 - 5 weeks for it to return. I made an appointment, went down to my local apple store and got the replacement. And I paid NOTHING EXTRA TO GET THIS. I just bought an apple product.

Seriously, stay out of this thread. You are just a fucking moron with a stick up your ass (or is it your head? The world may never know...) who will try to come up with any reason to hate on apple.

LG has no local stores and if you broke the screen on your phone *this very instant* what would you do? You would wait 3 - 5 weeks for your replacement and probably have to pay for it. I would go make an appointment and probably get it fixed tonight or tomorrow.

But you can keep on posting irrelevant pictures and linking to irrelevant articles in an attempt to prove your irrelevant point.
 
Yes, really. See 'complimentary support': http://www.apple.com/support/products/iphone.html

It doesn't include accidental damage protection until you buy AppleCare+, but Apple usually give you a chance to buy it one time if you break it within your limited warranty period.

I've known them to, in multiple cases (at their own discretion), replace damaged phones free-of-charge even before accidental damage (the "+" in "AppleCare+") was ever offered.
 
I've known them to, in multiple cases (at their own discretion), replace damaged phones free-of-charge even before accidental damage (the "+" in "AppleCare+") was ever offered.

Yeah, I brought my iPhone 4S to the store that was having battery issues. It was out of warranty and water damaged and they gave me a brand new one on the spot.
 
Roomie took his MacBook to the apple store, which was about a month out of warranty. He ended up leaving with it fixed, free of charge. My mom's dell laptop which was under warranty took a shit, she ended up going 3 weeks without one while she waited for it to be fixed.

You can hate Apple
you can hate their prices
but if you hate Apple Care? I don't understand you as a human being.
 
I loved my iPhone 4. And at the time it was released, holy shit... I knew that was THE phone to get and I knew that would last me a while. It was awesome. Antenna gate was not even a thing after you put a case on your phone. And I always had a case on mine simply for the fact that it would slip out of my pocket if I didn't... I did have to get a new replacement once because the vibration motor broke. And then on that replaced one, the camera flash stopped working sort of. (It wouldn't stay on. It could take pictures with the flash on momentarily, but not have the flash on constantly or even flash in any app. Only worked in the camera app for taking pics. Really weird hardware/firmware bug that the apple techs had never seen and it's not documented online at all.) And of course, the lock button broke, and both of those things were well after my first year of free applecare was over. So, that sucked... but I jailbroke mine, so it wasn't a problem. (Used the volume up+down as lock button)

Applecare is pretty awesome when you have it. And I don't think anyone hates on that shit unless they're an idiot.

I bought an iPhone 5S when it launched and got the extended applecare coverage just because I plan on keeping this phone for 2+ years and don't want to deal with the problems that occurred before on the 4 within the 1-2 year ownership period.
 
the last time apple was any good was when they made computers for schools. that ended when steve jobs came back.
I guess that's probably why Apple completely stopped making money after Steve Jobs returned, right?

...right?
yeah but they no have no more soul

Let's see if I can follow you...

You think Apple had "soul" during the time they were releasing those shitty beige boxes while Steve Jobs was not with the company? Right?

...right?
 
Roomie took his MacBook to the apple store, which was about a month out of warranty. He ended up leaving with it fixed, free of charge. My mom's dell laptop which was under warranty took a shit, she ended up going 3 weeks without one while she waited for it to be fixed.

You can hate Apple
you can hate their prices
but if you hate Apple Care? I don't understand you as a human being.

Dell has in-home repair options and a huge network of repair shops. Like Applecare it costs more.
 
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Roomie took his MacBook to the apple store, which was about a month out of warranty. He ended up leaving with it fixed, free of charge. My mom's dell laptop which was under warranty took a shit, she ended up going 3 weeks without one while she waited for it to be fixed.

You can hate Apple
you can hate their prices
but if you hate Apple Care? I don't understand you as a human being.
Weird, Dell came to me anytime something needed fixing.
 
YOU!

Maybe you can help us plebes understand the validity of the patents in play here. Most of us don't understand, for example, why slide to unlock, or even data synchronization were allowed a patents.

Would take quite a bit of time, unfortunately. Time that I do not have to donate.

The long and short of it, however, would be that the USPTO determined after a search that the claims of each of the patents in question defined subject matter that was both novel (not anticipated) and non-obvious as of the respective patent's earliest effective filing date.

If you want to try analyzing the validity of the patents yourself, you might try the following:

1. Read the patents.
2. Carefully read the claims.
3. Construe the claim terms in accordance with U.S. law (basically in view of the specification and potentially outside sources, expert testimony, etc.).
4. Once you have construed the claims - search the prior art (with some exceptions, basically anything published, on sale, in public use, etc. before the priority date of the application (actual filing date or priority date claimed under 35 USC 119 or 120)).
5. Try to identify anticipatory prior art (prior art literally teaches each element of at least one claim.
6. If no anticipatory prior art or if you have some dependent claims that were not anticipated, try to find art that renders those claims obvious under 103 (basically reference A teaches elements X and Y, reference B teaches element Z, it would have been obvious to combine Z with X and Y for some rational reason spelled out in the references or using technical argument not fundamentally based on hindsight).
7. If you can find art to legitimately reject all the claims under 102/103. . . you may have an argument that the patent is invalid.
8. If you can't find art to legitimately reject at least one claim under 102/103 . . . you may have an argument that some claims are invalid, while others are potentially valid.

Of course, none of the above is legal advice. Just posted to give you guys some idea of how complex and time consuming this type of thing can be. I've rendered some validity opinions for $8k, and some for $100k+. All depends on how many issues are raised and how important/complex those issues are. So again, determining validity is not always the easiest thing to do. Particularly when the other side will come up with often equally convincing arguments in support of a position precisely opposite yours.
 
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You have your head so far up your ass it aint even funny. I didn't pay a dime for applecare. I didn't pay a dime to get my phone screen fixed. I didnt pay a dime to get a new charger for my Macbook when it broke. All of this, with no extended warranty, no mailing in any products waiting 3 - 5 weeks for it to return. I made an appointment, went down to my local apple store and got the replacement. And I paid NOTHING EXTRA TO GET THIS. I just bought an apple product.

Seriously, stay out of this thread. You are just a fucking moron with a stick up your ass (or is it your head? The world may never know...) who will try to come up with any reason to hate on apple.

LG has no local stores and if you broke the screen on your phone *this very instant* what would you do? You would wait 3 - 5 weeks for your replacement and probably have to pay for it. I would go make an appointment and probably get it fixed tonight or tomorrow.

But you can keep on posting irrelevant pictures and linking to irrelevant articles in an attempt to prove your irrelevant point.

Maybe you missed the memo, but LG [or insert major phone manufacturers here] users never paid an "extra dime" for their usual warranty either. So they have to wait a week or two while it's fixed, who cares? They still didn't pay extra, in fact they paid LESS markup for a product which does the same shit (surf the web, text, and make a phone call). So you paid more to enjoy an applecare store IF it breaks, congrats on paying a significantly higher markup price for that. Do you want a cookie?

You also failed to address the extended applecare warranty which most lemmings such as yourself buy, which apple is making a good chunk of profit on (in the billions). Take the blinders off, fanboy.
 
I did have to get a new replacement once because the vibration motor broke. And then on that replaced one, the camera flash stopped working sort of. (It wouldn't stay on. It could take pictures with the flash on momentarily, but not have the flash on constantly or even flash in any app. Only worked in the camera app for taking pics. Really weird hardware/firmware bug that the apple techs had never seen and it's not documented online at all.) And of course, the lock button broke, and both of those things were well after my first year of free applecare was over. So, that sucked... but I jailbroke mine, so it wasn't a problem. (Used the volume up+down as lock button)

I've never had a problem with any of the above issues with a non-iphone, and I've owned some shitty smartphones. The vibration motor broke? lock button? flash on cam? wtf.
 
Like later this year when Apple becomes the first company to properly implement a 5 inch screen in their phones?

funny thing is that all my friends who are die hard apple fans claim they love the size of their phones and my HTC One is too big. Their 5S is the perfect size. I guess when apple comes out with a 4.7" or 5", they'll change their minds and 4.7" will be the perfect size.
 
Maybe you missed the memo, but LG [or insert major phone manufacturers here] users never paid an "extra dime" for their usual warranty either. So they have to wait a week or two while it's fixed, who cares? They still didn't pay extra, in fact they paid LESS markup for a product which does the same shit (surf the web, text, and make a phone call). So you paid more to enjoy an applecare store IF it breaks, congrats on paying a significantly higher markup price for that. Do you want a cookie?

You also failed to address the extended applecare warranty which most lemmings such as yourself buy, which apple is making a good chunk of profit on (in the billions). Take the blinders off, fanboy.

I love how you still try to push your straw man argument. I just said I've never paid an extra dime for applecare and I got all those repairs for free. Yet you still call me a lemming and claim that I buy the extended applecare warranty. Too stupid to read my post. Talk about blinders. Your point is moot, but your dumb ass still wont let it go.

So what if you wait an extra 2 weeks??? Are you kidding me? It could take up to 5 - 8 weeks in some of my experiences! I use my phone for work. I go thru about 1500 minutes a month. I need my phone and cant wait two weeks. Just go ahead and keep on thinking that LG offers the same exact thing as applecare. But you can forget about that pesky wait time and the fact that they probably wont fix a problem you created (like water damage or broken screen). I guess you can conveniently keep on ignoring that since it doesn't fit your retarded narrative. Go find the anti-apple circle jerk on reddit. You will fit right in.

Here's a shocker for you: everyone values product features differently. Some people will *SHOCK* pay more for the features they value! Holy shit, did I blow your mind?!?! Do you understand basic economics yet?

You are the epitome of that other post talking about anti-apple fanboys being worse than fanboys. You should be the poster boy. You are the shining example of a retarded, annoying, dumb as shit anti-apple fanboy. I hope you are proud.
 
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