Apple: "The iPhone is not logging your location"

[corwin]

There has never been any indication that the data was sent to Apple. If you are going to say something stupid try coming up with something new rather than just repeating stupid things others say.

-KeithP

Umm, from the article..

It also says it is collecting anonymous location data about iPhones to produce better traffic maps.

Love how it's always "anonymous"...trust us, it's just a "bug"...you know like Microso....nevermind

 

[The Boston Dangler]

you're holding it wrong

 

[sdifox]

What jobs meant was the phone wasn't logging your location. He had brainwashed you into logging this yourself. You just don't remember but appreciate how the dear leader loves you.

 

[Bateluer]

Guys, just grip your iPhones tightly. Solves the problem pretty effectively.

 

[Inferno0032]

It's true that the iphone is not logging my location.

Don't have one then?

 

[goog40]

http://techcrunch.com/2011/04/27/apple-iphone-location/

Theoretically, someone could steal your phone, hack it, and get access to this data. This could potentially show them where you were up until the point they stole your phone. (Of course, given that they stole/found your phone, they would probably already know that.)

But wait. If they stole/found your phone, couldn’t they also have access to information like your address, the addresses of friends/family, all your phone numbers, perhaps some passwords, maybe monetary information? Yes, but that’s not as sexy of a story.

Oh, and if your phone had any app like Foursquare, Gowalla, Loopt, etc, they could just open those apps and get all your actual location information without hacking the device? Yep, but again, Apple has nefarious intent here, remember?

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What Apple is actually doing is collecting data points to build up their own location database, as Erick explained last week. Why? Because as we first reported last year, in April 2010, Apple made the move to ditch former partners Skyhook Wireless and Google, who were previously supplying them with such a database — information necessary for all location services on the phone.

And guess how those guys built-up and updated those databases? The same way (though as Apple briefly mentioned today, each company that collects such information has different methods for doing so). Previously, the iPhone was sending this same type of information to Skyhook. Now they’ve taken full control of that information. Apple likes to be in control of its own products. This should be absolutely no surprise.

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So instead your mobile device is used to anonymously record, encrypt and send this cell tower and WiFi hotspot data to Apple. The keywords “anonymously” and “encrypt” are paramount here, yet both have been downplayed in nearly every story on the issue. Apple has no clue who you are based on this data. They have no way to know that. And they have no reason to want to know that. And anyone trying to snatch this data out of the sky would not be able to read it.

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Apple SVP Scott Forstall explains the log length mistake (and that’s exactly what Apple is claiming it is — and there doesn’t appear to be a reason to believe otherwise) pretty well in an interview with Mobilized’s Ina Fried:

We picked a size, around 2MB, which is less than half a song. It turns out it was fairly large and could hold items for a long time.

This story is seriously overblown.

 

[Nintendesert]

http://techcrunch.com/2011/04/27/apple-iphone-location/



This story is seriously overblown.

Until the PoPo starts doing shit like downloading the contents of people's cell phones during traffic stops and arrests, but then again I'm sure they'd never do stuff like that.

 

[Bateluer]

http://techcrunch.com/2011/04/27/apple-iphone-location/



This story is seriously overblown.

The actual cause is just as important as how the company handles it. In Apple case, denying it, then claiming their competitors do it, then saying its anonymous and not an issue, then admitting it and claiming its just a bug. Albeit, a bug a they wish you'd never found out about. Had the story never broke, the iPhones would still be 'logging' all that location information and Apple wouldn't say anything or do anything to address the 'bug'.

 

[Newbian]

We have a apple forum for this stuff, take this crap out of our PC forum...

 

[dwell]

Typical asinine Apple response. Maybe it's storing so much data because you're holding it wrong.

<3 my Droid

Sheep. Google is not only tracking your every move, they mine all of your email, have a complete history of your internet searches, if you use Voice they mine all of your voice mail, and have a satellite picture of your house and a street view picture of your front door.

Yeah Google are to be trusted *giant-fucking-eye-roll*

 

[rudeguy]

Sheep. Google is not only tracking your every move, they mine all of your email, have a complete history of your internet searches, if you use Voice they mine all of your voice mail, and have a satellite picture of your house and a street view picture of your front door.

Yeah Google are to be trusted *giant-fucking-eye-roll*

I don't disagree with you, but what does Google have to do with Apple?

This is the most common thing that Apple guys do that makes everyone hate them. Whenever there is a negative about Apple, they start flaming Google or Microsoft or...heck, sometimes I think they issue a magic 8 ball with companies names.

 

[dwell]

I don't disagree with you, but what does Google have to do with Apple?

He said he loves his Droid as if Android is immune to this situation when in fact it's much worse. Google does not log as much location data to the device because they routinely phone your location home complete with a 128-bit unique device id.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20056657-281.html

This is the most common thing that Apple guys do that makes everyone hate them. Whenever there is a negative about Apple, they start flaming Google or Microsoft or...heck, sometimes I think they issue a magic 8 ball with companies names.

Most Android users are worse than the worst Apple fanboys. It's what happens when you buy a device mainly because it's "not Apple".

 

[rudeguy]

He said he loves his Droid as if Android is immune to this situation when in fact it's much worse. Google does not log as much location data to the device because they routinely phone your location home complete with a 128-bit unique device id.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20056657-281.html



Most Android users are worse than the worst Apple fanboys. It's what happens when you buy a device mainly because it's "not Apple".

Maybe we buy them because they have a man's sized screen?

 

[Inferno0032]

Maybe we buy them because they have a man's sized screen?

Or a system that allows us to use our crap like we want?

 

[Inferno0032]

My issue with Apple is that they are the exact personification of the people I associate as Apple fanboys.

Almost everyone I know who is an Apple fanboy who will be highly opinionated, is never wrong, and is generally douchy in many ways, i.e. buys things for fashion/elitism.

Apple is the same. They F up with the antenna by going their typical form>function, but did they ever say there was a problem? No. "There's no problem, you're holding it wrong, but here's a bumper that we were originally going to rip you off with so you stop whining." Now this, a "bug," and using wordplay to make it sound as if your location isn't tracked. Just own up and stop being the douche that personifies your company and your product philosophy.

If Microsoft or anyone else tried to pull any BS like that, thered be hell to pay, but when it comes out Apples mouth somehow its okay to jerk around your customer and user base?

/rant

 

[AMDZen]

Typical asinine Apple response. Maybe it's storing so much data because you're holding it wrong.

<3 my Droid

You're a typical idiot. Google is storing the EXACT same information. Apple gets more media attention because they are more in the spotlight.

Google has done much more invasive things, and it hardly makes the news.

W(ho)TF cares about either company doing this any way?

 

[dwell]

My issue with Apple is that they are the exact personification of the people I associate as Apple fanboys.

Android users (at least the ones you run into on tech forums) tend to be equally insufferable. They act as if Android is "open" and "free" and lets you do what ever you want, when in fact unless you root the device it's only marginally more open than iOS. Not to mention Google is single-handedly and unapoligetically the biggest threat to privacy in the world as if that's some company you want to rally behind.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

taking the cognitive dissonance approach that the government uses to confuse the masses. Invading Libya is not war!

 

[AMDZen]

Android users (at least the ones you run into on tech forums) tend to be equally insufferable. They act as if Android is "open" and "free" and lets you do what ever you want, when in fact unless you root the device it's only marginally more open than iOS. Not to mention Google is single-handedly and unapoligetically the biggest threat to privacy in the world as if that's some company you want to rally behind.

Not to mention the iPhone is just as easy to Jailbreak and then open up and do whatever you want with. Dreamboard on the iPhone now lets you make the iPhone look however you want it to look, even if you like panels similar to Win7 phones or the widget style of 'Sense' or any other Droid software.

Pretty much the day all of this was known, a few patches were put on Cydia which allows any iPhone user to deactivate the storage of this information.

Google meanwhile is gathering information from your Wi-fi network too, and made the same bullshit excuse. "Oh we were just looking for open Wi-fi networks, the program wasn't supposed to gather and download everything it could from every open Wi-fi network it came across."

Typical google whores.

 

[Inferno0032]

Android users (at least the ones you run into on tech forums) tend to be equally insufferable. They act as if Android is "open" and "free" and lets you do what ever you want, when in fact unless you root the device it's only marginally more open than iOS. Not to mention Google is single-handedly and unapoligetically the biggest threat to privacy in the world as if that's some company you want to rally behind.

That post wasn't an iOS vs. Android post. It was a general and broad post. Anti Apple fanboys are just as bad as the Apple ones, fanboys are fanboys. But being as a person who has always opposed the elitest attitude, as well as a form>function design set, and Apples persistent denial that they have any problems ever whatsoever and put the blame on the user not using it how they intended has me so far off the Apple ship. If Apple changed their "attitude" and released some things I want that doesn't have an extra decimal place on the end in terms of price, I think they make great products and I'd be open to buying from them.

 

[Stuxnet]

You're a typical idiot. Google is storing the EXACT same information. Apple gets more media attention because they are more in the spotlight.

Google has done much more invasive things, and it hardly makes the news.

W(ho)TF cares about either company doing this any way?

Read my post again, moron: my issue is with Apple's response, you twat.

Typical Apple apologist

(see, I can play the name game too!)

 

[AMDZen]

Read my post again, moron: my issue is with Apple's response, you twat.

Typical Apple apologist

(see, I can play the name game too!)

And read mine, douche bag. You're being a Google apologist as well because Google sidesteps the same exact way.

 

[davmat787]

I don't own a friggin smartphone, and from what I see now days the google fanboys are just about as bad as apples. Any google or apple related thread always degenerates into, well, something just like this thread.

I can't stand Apple myself, but I'm just sayin...

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

Wtf? "It's not tracking you. We are setting it to only save your location data for a week." How is that not tracking?

 

[cheezy321]

I don't own a friggin smartphone, and from what I see now days the google fanboys are just about as bad as apples. Any google or apple related thread always degenerates into, well, something just like this thread.

I can't stand Apple myself, but I'm just sayin...

This man speaks the truf.