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Apple suing Samsung

GodlessAstronomer

GodlessAstronomer

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Bad TouchWiz? Apple sues Samsung for patent violations

When is this patent trolling shitcockery going to end?

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Pliablemoose said:
Here's a pretty good write up by Nilay Patel (shameles stolen from GG&P)

http://thisismynext.com/2011/04/19/apple-sues-samsung-analysis/

The case isn't without merit...
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I'm not saying Apple doesn't have a case - I'm saying some of those patents are ridiculous bullshit and should never have been awarded. The icon trademarks and some of the technical patents may have merit, but these ones, come on!

(sorry I didn't know there was a GG&P thread on this topic).

Hardware and software trade dress claims

a rectangular product shape with all four corners uniformly rounded;
the front surface of the product dominated by a screen surface with black borders;
as to the iPhone and iPod touch products, substantial black borders above and below the screen having roughly equal width and narrower black borders on either side of the screen having roughly equal width;
as to the iPad product, substantial black borders on all sides being roughly equal in width;
a metallic surround framing the perimeter of the top surface;
a display of a grid of colorful square icons with uniformly rounded corners; and
a bottom row of square icons (the “Springboard&#8221😉 set off from the other icons and that do not change as the other pages of the user interface are viewed.


U.S. Registration No. 3,470,983 is for the overall design of the product, including the rectangular shape, the rounded corners, the silver edges, the black face, and the display of sixteen colorful icons.
U.S. Registration No. 3,457,218 is for the configuration of a rectangular handheld mobile digital electronic device with rounded corners.
U.S. Registration No. 3,475,327 is for a rectangular handheld mobile digital electronic device with a gray rectangular portion in the center, a black band above and below the gray rectangle and on the curved corners, and a silver outer border and side.

Patent #D627,790: Graphical User Interface For a Display Screen or Portion Thereof. This is the iOS homescreen — the grid of icons.

Patent #6,493,002, delightfully titled Method and Apparatus for Displaying and Accessing Control and Status Information in a Computer System,

Patent #7,669,134 is titled Method and Apparatus For Displaying Information During An Instant Messaging Session,
 
This isn't so much a patent case (yes there are some patents involved) but more of a trademark case, which Nilay's article explains pretty well.
 
Lonbjerg said:
You should really look into how Apple based it's success on stealing from Xerox...
Hell, even then name "iPhone" is stolen from Cisco...

Be carefull about who you accuse of stealing...
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Be careful who you defend. Samsung has a reputation for flat out stealing pattens. It's nothing like Apple or Microsoft. Apple is an innovative company, Samsung is not. Their MO is, steal the patten, make a ton of money, and then deal with the lawsuits later.

The Samsung Galaxy S II is a perfect example. If you can't see that the phone design and UI are a complete iPhone ripoff, I don't know what to tell you.
 
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JackBurton said:
Be careful who you defend. Samsung has a reputation for flat out stealing pattens. It's nothing like Apple or Microsoft. Apple is an innovative company, Samsung is not. Their MO is, steal the patten, make a ton of money, and then deal with the lawsuits later.

The Samsung Galaxy S II is a perfect example. If you can't see that the phone design and UI are a complete iPhone ripoff, I don't know what to tell you.
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You have got to be shitting me...Steve Jobs himself admitted to stealing from Xerox:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdrKWArr3XY

Then add this:
http://youtu.be/CW0DUg63lqU

Then it becomes hillarious...if you can turn of your reality distortion field.
 
GodlessAstronomer said:
Bad TouchWiz? Apple sues Samsung for patent violations

When is this patent trolling shitcockery going to end?

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http://www.appleinsider.com/article...ns_accuse_apple_of_copying_samsung_first.html

However, the graphic is in error, as Samsung only mentioned plans for the new phone in 2006. It wasn't actually shown until February 2007 at the 3GSM World Congress, held a month after the iPhone's debut. It did not go on sale at that time.
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The F700 was rushed out to show after the iPhone's debut, and was regarded as an "answer to the iPhone" by reports of the day, one of which observed that it "looks awfully familiar."
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Google News has no articles about the F700 prior to January 2007, which seems unusual if Samsung had shown it before then. There are plenty of articles from February 2007 though, so it seems likely that it is true that the F700 was merely announced with no details in 2006.
 
I'll just leave this here:


alfa147x said:
While I understand this is outside of AT All Things Apple and this is the feasting ground for many Apple haters Im going to post this:
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Apple has a good reason for throwing this at Samsung. Just because they buy a ton of stuff does NOT mean that Samsung can turn around and steal Apple's design. If Apple does not protect their patents they lose them.

Did anyone in this thread read the paper work behind this?
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umrigar said:
as for Delicious / iBooks, the developer said:

http://twitter.com/#!/wilshipley/status/8289792566
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I couldn't access that status.

However, I did see this here:

http://techcrunch.com/2010/01/27/think-ibooks-looks-familiar-youre-not-the-only-one/

“No, Apple didn’t license iBooks from me. They just copied me. Ah well,”

“I guess it’s not enough Apple has hired every employee who worked on Delicious Library, they also had to copy my product’s look. Flattery?”

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Notably, he says, “[Delcious Monster co-founder] Mike Matas was a UI designer on the iPad, [former employee] Lucas Newman is an iPhone / iPad engineer, and [former employee] Tim Omernick was an iPhone / iPad engineer but left a while ago to work on games independently.“

“But the thing about iBooks is, it’s a book-reader. So, of course they looked around, found the best interface for displaying books (Delicious Library’s shelves), and said: yup, this is what we’re doing,” he went on to say. “Although Delicious Library was the first to do it, we didn’t try to copyright the idea of wooden shelves, or of showing books photo-realistically. ‘Look and feel’ is kind of an outmoded concept, I think.“

“Now, of course Apple couldn’t contact me ahead of time and say, ‘Hey, we’re taking your idea, thanks.’ Their lawyers would worry they’d open themselves to a huge lawsuit, for one, and they’d also be leaking a secret. Nor could they write me a check. Even a token one would be an admission (in their lawyers’ eyes) that they were copying something. They are a public company — they can’t write someone a check unless they got some value in return. And if they got value, the lawyers would ask, how much was it? How was it determined?,” he continues

“So their official policy has to be, ‘No, of course it’s a crazy coincidence that these shelves look almost entirely like Delicious Library’s shelves.‘,” he concludes

But this goes even deeper for Shipley:

“As a creator, part of what I seek is recognition, immortality. I don’t work for Apple, or Google (I’ve been offered jobs & buyouts) because I want the fame myself. It’s my shot at immortality. My designs are my children. So it stinks when I feel like Steve might get the fame for my innovation. I lose my children, as it were.“

“But your children aren’t really yours. They have lives of their own. So when your designs do change the world, you have to accept it. You have to say, ‘Ok, this was such a good idea, other people took it and ran with it. I win.’”

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He sounds pretty pissed.
 
Lonbjerg said:
You have got to be shitting me...Steve Jobs himself admitted to stealing from Xerox:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdrKWArr3XY

Then add this:
http://youtu.be/CW0DUg63lqU

Then it becomes hillarious...if you can turn of your reality distortion field.
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Are you freakin' seriously going to reference the Xerox case? How long ago was that? Are you also going to reference Bill Gate's controversial acquisition of DOS? Seriously? Is your anti-Apple hate flaring up so bad you have to go back that far to make your case?

This is current day and pretty much how Samsung currently does business (steals pattens). Again, the Galaxy S is a freakin' complete iPhone rip off. If you can't see that, either you've been blinded by your Apple hate or just refuse to see it due to your intense Apple hate.

And please quit with the Cisco case. Apple simply wanted that name because it fit their naming convention, that is all. They weren't trying to rip Cisco's product off.
 
JackBurton said:
Are you freakin' seriously going to reference the Xerox case? How long ago was that? Are you also going to reference Bill Gate's controversial acquisition of DOS? Seriously? Is your anti-Apple hate flaring up so bad you have to go back that far to make your case?

This is current day and pretty much how Samsung currently does business (steals pattens). Again, the Galaxy S is a freakin' complete iPhone rip off. If you can't see that, either you've been blinded by your Apple hate or just refuse to see it due to your intense Apple hate.

And please quit with the Cisco case. Apple simply wanted that name because it fit their naming convention, that is all. They weren't trying to rip Cisco's product off.
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Theft is theft.
A company based on theft should point the finger at others.

But I guess the reality distortion fieil is in full effect?
 
JackBurton said:
Are you freakin' seriously going to reference the Xerox case? How long ago was that? Are you also going to reference Bill Gate's controversial acquisition of DOS? Seriously? Is your anti-Apple hate flaring up so bad you have to go back that far to make your case?

This is current day and pretty much how Samsung currently does business (steals pattens). Again, the Galaxy S is a freakin' complete iPhone rip off. If you can't see that, either you've been blinded by your Apple hate or just refuse to see it due to your intense Apple hate.

And please quit with the Cisco case. Apple simply wanted that name because it fit their naming convention, that is all. They weren't trying to rip Cisco's product off.
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Apple is stealing wooden soled foot ware?? How dare they!
 
Lonbjerg said:
Theft is theft.
A company based on theft should point the finger at others.

But I guess the reality distortion fieil is in full effect?
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lol, I love the anti-Apple rhetoric. Everyone is crazy except for you, right? Your case against Apple is weak and pretty much irrelevant now. What I find funny is that you conveniently ignore the blatant Samsung rip off going on right now which is what this suit is all about.
 
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JackBurton said:
lol, I love the anti-Apple rhetoric. Everyone is crazy except for you, right? Your case against Apple is weak and pretty much irrelevant now. What I find funny is that you conveniently ignore the blatant Samsung rip off going on right now which is what this suit is all about.
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That is funny...a company based on theft and ripping of ideas (by the words of Jobs himself) has fans that ignore this and accuse others of the same...oh the irony...
 
This is going to be interesting considering Samusng started to fire back.

The problem for Apple is that Samsung is no.2 patent king in U.S next to IBM and that they hold most of cell-phone related patent.
 
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