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halfadder

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Originally posted by: Cerb
(I definitely don't like the file browser for apps, nor the dock in general, but the rest of OS X is pretty cool).
Some various things to try:
* Apple menu -> Dock -> Turn Hiding On
* Apple menu -> Dock -> Turn Magnification Off
* Resize the dock by placing your cursor over the vertical speration bar (usually to the left of the trash can icon). Click, hold, and drag up or down to resize the dock.

* Column View in the Finder/File Browser (the third icon on the view buttons looks like three tall columns)

* Click on desktop or a Finder/File Browser window. Finder menu -> Preferences -> General -> New Finder windows open: Applications. That way you can get one click access to the Applications directory from the Finder icon on the dock.

or

* Open a Finder/File Browser window, click on your hard drive icon, then drag the Applications folder to the dock. This will place an alias on the dock that you can right-click (or control-click) to get pop up access to your applications. You can make a different folder with aliases that you can rename/organize/whatever to any layout you want.

or

* http://www.unsanity.com/haxies/fruitmenu/ (awesome awesome awesome piece of software)

* Apple menu -> System Preferences -> Appearance -> Appearance: Graphite (yay, no more blue)

* Note that in the System Preference application, you can click "Show All" and drag your favorite preference panels to the top shelf for quick access in the future.

* Apple menu -> System Preferences -> Expose
Set a screen corner to "All Windows" and another corner to "Desktop" so you can quickly slam your curosr into a corner to activate an expose feature.

* Clean your dock by draging an icon off the dock and dropping it on to the desktop, the default dock from Apple has way too many shortcuts on it.
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: halfadder
Originally posted by: Cerb
(I definitely don't like the file browser for apps, nor the dock in general, but the rest of OS X is pretty cool).
Some various things to try:
* Apple menu -> Dock -> Turn Hiding On
What exactly does this do?
* Apple menu -> Dock -> Turn Magnification Off
Came off by default. This is a feature they use to sell (every demo has had it on), that makes the dock terrible for real use.
* Resize the dock by placing your cursor over the vertical speration bar (usually to the left of the trash can icon). Click, hold, and drag up or down to resize the dock.
Or right-click and get a full set of options. At 800x600, the dock needed resizing ASAP :).
* Column View in the Finder/File Browser (the third icon on the view buttons looks like three tall columns)
I turned the icons down to small, labels on the right, hit the upper-right button...hot damn! This is what I use dFileman for in Windows! And I get out of it with a mouse click. Perfect.
For applications, it's mainly that I think a start-menu-like menu is superior (note: I don't use the Explorer start menu in Windows).
* Click on desktop or a Finder/File Browser window. Finder menu -> Preferences -> General -> New Finder windows open: Applications. That way you can get one click access to the Applications directory from the Finder icon on the dock.
Getting there isn't as much of an issue as that I'd like it as a popup. Better yet, blackbox-like, as a popup from the desktop.[/quote]or

* Open a Finder/File Browser window, click on your hard drive icon, then drag the Applications folder to the dock. This will place an alias on the dock that you can right-click (or control-click) to get pop up access to your applications. You can make a different folder with aliases that you can rename/organize/whatever to any layout you want.[/quote]I will try that ASAP!
or

* http://www.unsanity.com/haxies/fruitmenu/ (awesome awesome awesome piece of software)

* Apple menu -> System Preferences -> Appearance -> Appearance: Graphite (yay, no more blue)

* Note that in the System Preference application, you can click "Show All" and drag your favorite preference panels to the top shelf for quick access in the future.
Figured that stuff out.
* Apple menu -> System Preferences -> Expose
Set a screen corner to "All Windows" and another corner to "Desktop" so you can quickly slam your curosr into a corner to activate an expose feature.
Top-right corner. AFter doing that, expose has not only become useable, but actually intuitive.
* Clean your dock by draging an icon off the dock and dropping it on to the desktop, the default dock from Apple has way too many shortcuts on it.
Already got that, too.

My initial impression of OS X's interface is that the dock really is made to look better and sell things more than it is to be used, and that applications management is defintiely made for dummies. However, there are quite a few features that really are awesome.
Dialog boxes, FI. Anand's article doesn't do their management of them justice.
Also, tabs: instead of paper folder tabs, in which rows must change positions when selecting tabs, it is a rounded button panel slightly apart from the set of panes that would normally be tabbed. Not as real-world-like, but much better as a GUI element.
Application menus are always in the same spot. KDE can do this, but it has been buggy in the past, and still doesn't remove them from the windows. This is something I'd never used much, but figured I'd like...and I do :).

I would put OS X as dead even with Xandros 3 for actual useability (if I weren't a gamer, Xandros w/ Crossover Office would probably make up my main desktop OS, rather than Windows 2000). I would not compare it to windows, if simply because I think it's cool that I can pop open terminal and use a fully featured command line interface :).

Lastly, I would say that my initial performance expectations were reached. Many things, like web browsing, are not as slow as I would have expected, with a 5400 RPM HDD, though it gets as bad as a desktop Linux or Windows once you use up all of the RAM. Like Win2k/XP, the 256MB RAM isn't enough for heavy daily use (word processing, mail, and dozens of browser windows/tabs open).
 

imported_Lucifer

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Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: halfadder
Originally posted by: Cerb
(I definitely don't like the file browser for apps, nor the dock in general, but the rest of OS X is pretty cool).
Some various things to try:
* Apple menu -> Dock -> Turn Hiding On
What exactly does this do?

It hides the dock. It drops it down all the way at the bottom of the screen, so you cant see. If you want to access your dock, drag the mouse to the bottom of the screen, and the dock pops up. Drag your mouse away from the bottom of the screen, and the dock dissapears again. :)
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy
Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: halfadder
Originally posted by: Cerb
(I definitely don't like the file browser for apps, nor the dock in general, but the rest of OS X is pretty cool).
Some various things to try:
* Apple menu -> Dock -> Turn Hiding On
What exactly does this do?

It hides the dock. It drops it down all the way at the bottom of the screen, so you cant see. If you want to access your dock, drag the mouse to the bottom of the screen, and the dock pops up. Drag your mouse away from the bottom of the screen, and the dock dissapears again. :)
Neat. And they beat MS at it, too. It has a timer.
 

imported_Lucifer

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Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy
Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: halfadder
Originally posted by: Cerb
(I definitely don't like the file browser for apps, nor the dock in general, but the rest of OS X is pretty cool).
Some various things to try:
* Apple menu -> Dock -> Turn Hiding On
What exactly does this do?

It hides the dock. It drops it down all the way at the bottom of the screen, so you cant see. If you want to access your dock, drag the mouse to the bottom of the screen, and the dock pops up. Drag your mouse away from the bottom of the screen, and the dock dissapears again. :)
Neat. And they beat MS at it, too. It has a timer.

It has a timer? I didnt even know that! :)
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy
Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy
Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: halfadder
Originally posted by: Cerb
(I definitely don't like the file browser for apps, nor the dock in general, but the rest of OS X is pretty cool).
Some various things to try:
* Apple menu -> Dock -> Turn Hiding On
What exactly does this do?

It hides the dock. It drops it down all the way at the bottom of the screen, so you cant see. If you want to access your dock, drag the mouse to the bottom of the screen, and the dock pops up. Drag your mouse away from the bottom of the screen, and the dock dissapears again. :)
Neat. And they beat MS at it, too. It has a timer.
It has a timer? I didnt even know that! :)
One of the problems with the autohidden start menu in windows is that it pops up immediately. Now sure, waiting for the dock to come up takes time, but I won't accidentally be accessing it, and it is pretty quick.
 

Childs

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One thing new users often don't try is Sherlock. I find the stock quotes, phone book, movie and translation features fairly useful.
 

imported_Lucifer

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Originally posted by: Childs
One thing new users often don't try is Sherlock. I find the stock quotes, phone book, movie and translation features fairly useful.

I use Sherlock often, and its very helpful. :)
 

Dennis Travis

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Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy
Originally posted by: Childs
One thing new users often don't try is Sherlock. I find the stock quotes, phone book, movie and translation features fairly useful.

I use Sherlock often, and its very helpful. :)


Funny thing is I know about Sherlock but never really messed with it in the over 1 and 1/2 years I have had OSX till the other day and it's very nice. Can't wait for the new Search in Tiger.

 

hopejr

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I've never really used Sherlock before, but I have had a look at it about a month ago. I just went to go and have another look, but there was absolutely nothing in it! The only thing was Channels, but nothing was in that. WTH???? How do I get everything back?
 

hopejr

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Trashing the prefs doesn't help much, apart from add the Other Channels and Apple Channels folders (both empty). I went to Sherlock Help, and managed to get two channels into Other Channels, but there's nothing in the tool bars like before. I think I'll just create a new user account, steal the prefs from that and then delete the account :p
 

imported_Lucifer

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:)

You have another option, if you dont mind giving it a try. :) There is an app called Pacifist. If you still have your original software install cd's, just Pacifist to extract the Sherlock app from the cd, and you can just reinstall the Sherlock app without installing the entire contents of the cd.
 

Dennis Travis

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Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy
:)

You have another option, if you dont mind giving it a try. :) There is an app called Pacifist. If you still have your original software install cd's, just Pacifist to extract the Sherlock app from the cd, and you can just reinstall the Sherlock app without installing the entire contents of the cd.


Yes that might work. Pacifist is great. Did it on my G4 that I use for a Web Server and fixed the DVD app that got all messed up due to problems with the DVD drive and the app getting damaged. Worked like a charm. Give Pacifist a try. Wonderfull program.

 

hopejr

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Thanks for the suggestion. I'll give it a try (to do that I usually use the terminal :p)
 

Eug

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From Slashdot:

Had a nice conversation with the project lead for the mac mini this morning at the apple store in the Westfield mall. He said first day sales blew away any computer apple's ever made, by a sizable margin, although the shuffle blew the mini away for first day sales of any apple product ever. He said he was asked, can you make it this small? (10" square)... yes. Can you make it this small? (8" square)... yes. Can you make it this small? (7" square)... maybe. Can you make it this small? (6 1/2" square)... no. Okay, that's the size then.... oh crap! :)
 

hopejr

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Pacifist didn't help. I ended up just creating a temp user account and copying the prefs over to my account, before deleting the temp account. Sherlock is quite good.

In the process of using Pacifist to fix Sherlock, I accidentally clicked Safari didn't check what file it was even when it prompted me about overwriting it. I ended up getting stuck with 1.2.1. So I downloaded the latest one from Apple. Installed it, but the context menus had "localized string not found". Same in help viewer (which I know uses Safari to render pages). After hours of playing around with the strings in Safari.app, and not having much success (I did have fun changing the strings that worked to different things :p). I then did a google search and found out a way to fix it. All I had to do was delete the Webkit framework and reinstall Safari! Well, it's fixed now :D
 

imported_Lucifer

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Cool! Glad you got everything working out for you. I use Sherlock frequently. It is very helpful.

I was also having a problem with the Localized String Not Found. In fact, when I booted up my emac for the very first time, I ran Safari, and I noticed I had this problem! I went to the Apple Disscusions board, and found the solution there, which is the same thing you did to get rid of localized string not found, delete the Webkit framework and reinstall Safari. I dont have that problem anymore! :)
 

hopejr

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Well, I was just chatting with a friend of mine on MSN, who has always hated macs (except for Bugdom, which is the only thing he liked on them). I told him about the mini, and he was extremely impressed. In fact, he wants one! Even when I got my iBook, he didn't have that sort of reaction.
 

Chadder007

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They need to make the minimum amount of Ram in it 512 and up the amount for the video card too a bit. ...Especially if anyone is going to upgrade to Tiger on an MacMini.
 

Eug

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Originally posted by: Chadder007
They need to make the minimum amount of Ram in it 512 and up the amount for the video card too a bit. ...Especially if anyone is going to upgrade to Tiger on an MacMini.
Yeah, I think they should ship every Mac with 512 MB RAM, although at $499 for the Mac mini, and $999 for the iBook, methinks Apple is just trying to protect their margins with the 256 MB RAM. At least with the iBook though, it's a lot easier to install RAM.

As for the video, the 32 MB is OK, although I also agree 64 MB is preferred for OS X, if you're using a large screen.

Re: Tiger. Although more memory never hurts, AFAIK Tiger will run just as well on the 9200 32 MB as Panther does, and in fact may even run faster than Panther, since more of the GUI is OpenGL accelerated. The issue with the 9200 though is that it doesn't support Pixel Shader 2.0, which means that things like Motion, or a couple of the Keynote 2 transitions, won't run at all. It doesn't matter if it's Panther or Tiger. Fortunately, those 2 transitions in Keynote aren't really all that useful, and you'd probably want a dual 2.0 GHz G5 with Radeon 9800 for Motion anyway. :p

EDIT:

The Mac mini's BTO options have changed.

Mostly it's price drops, but the SuperDrive is now 8X. (UJ-835 I'm guessing.)

BlueTooth/Airport Express combo now $99.
1 GB RAM now $325.
80 GB hard drive upgrade now $50.
 

thirdlegstump

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Just got mine finally. It's the 1.25GHz model with 512MB upgraded by Apple. I hooked it up to my Sony LCD and my old iMac keyboard and logitech optical mouse. System profiler tells me I have the ST940110A hard drive which isn't listed at Seagate's website..ODD.
Installation and setup was pretty smooth cept I couldn't get Samba to mount an XP share properly. That share contains a bunch of installer images. It's contents wouldn't show up although it authenticated fine. I ended up dumping all of the files from the XP machine to a 2000 server which had files services for Macintosh installed. Extra step but that worked fine. About half an hour later during software installation (Firefox, CS stuff etc.) It actually FROZE COMPLETELY and had to do a hard shutdown. Noticed some other weird things like short temporary freezes when browsing and installing programs in the background. Very annoying. All in all though, it feels exactly like a Powerbook G4. It's not blazing fast but other than the minor glitches, it feels pretty solid. Obviously my last 1.25 Dual G4 was faster since it had 4x the ram and 7200RPM Seagates but this isn't a slouch either. I think I can do some basic Finalcut edits on it.