Apple possibly to use Intel chips?

[dullard]

Rumors of Apple and Intel in talks

I never thought I'd see that happen. The idea of a low cost Mac is just what Apple needed. But will their customers stoop so low as to buy an Intel chip? Discuss.

Or is it an attempt to lower IBM's prices?

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

WTF, Why not AMD. You would think Intel and Microsoft woul be their biggest rivals.

 

[randomlinh]

the talks are supposedly more for xscale... amd doesn't have anything there do they?

 

[Oyeve]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
WTF, Why not AMD. You would think Intel and Microsoft woul be their biggest rivals.

I dont think Intel cares what OS is utilizing their chips as they are the largest manufacturer of chips. I personally would LOVE A MAC WITH AN INTEL INSIDE LOGO!!!

Also, Apple prides themselves as being a very stable platform and AMD (NOT knocking AMD, so no flaming, I have a coupla AMD systems) is not as stable as intel.

 

[stevty2889]

Originally posted by: Oyeve

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
WTF, Why not AMD. You would think Intel and Microsoft woul be their biggest rivals.

I dont think Intel cares what OS is utilizing their chips as they are the largest manufacturer of chips. I personally would LOVE A MAC WITH AN INTEL INSIDE LOGO!!!

Also, Apple prides themselves as being a very stable platform and AMD (NOT knocking AMD, so no flaming, I have a coupla AMD systems) is not as stable as intel.

AMD is not any less stable than intel..try running an Intel chip ona crappy VIA chipset..the problem is that AMD doesn't have the manufacturing capacity that Intel does. As for seeing a mac with Intel inside, I"ll have to see it before I believe it..

 

[magomago]

I don't see OSX using the intel platform (even if it is closed) ANYTIME soon....they are tnot going to go through hell and back tweaking the thing. Maybe for other things...YES~ but not for the main operating system...

and if they did, I'm going to start laughing and when people hack it to run on non specific x86 hardware (Assuming the intel deal is for x86 hardware

 

[Vee]

If Apple considers changing CPU platform, then AMD is automatically in on the game, since they're compatible.

Question is why Apple would talk to Intel about this now. Only reason I can think of, concerning desktop CPUs, is supply. I don't think AMD can afford to give CPUs away, like Intel is doing with Dell, and the kind of deal I suppose Apple too would be looking for. So AMD would be out of the picture, apart from being a bargaining chip.

But the other, more likely, answer, would be that the talks don't have anything to do with desktop CPUs, PPC or x86, but ARM-derived processors for palmtops and PDAs.

 

[Pariah]

Apple has been using Intel network and RAID chips for years. "Chips" is a rather vague description and could encompass a whole range of products. Apple could be looking for something to run a new generation of iPod's or portable multimedia player like the one Creative has. Who knows.

WTF, Why not AMD. You would think Intel and Microsoft woul be their biggest rivals.

Because most successful companies are run by businessmen not fan boys. If this is in fact a deal for general purpose x86 CPU's there would be no point in Apple going with AMD. Apple is likely looking for a low cost highly available product. It's no secret the problems Apple has had with getting enough G4's and then G5's for their systems. And we all know AMD isn't exactly the volume king of the x86 world. Why move from one problem to another company with the same problem?

 

[Vee]

Originally posted by: Oyeve
Also, Apple prides themselves as being a very stable platform and AMD (NOT knocking AMD, so no flaming, I have a coupla AMD systems) is not as stable as intel.

- Nonsense!

Also: - You ARE knocking AMD! So who do you try to fool?

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
WTF, Why not AMD. You would think Intel and Microsoft woul be their biggest rivals.

AMD puts out a quality product and can do so at a good price, thanks to less money spent on marketing... I think the universe would implode if Apple approached them.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Xscale would be perfect for the iPod that shows music videos you can download through the iTunes store. What other options are there? AMD's alchemy(?) processors? ARM is much more prevelant.

Anyhow, Apple switching to an x86 processor rumors pop up at least once a year. *yawn*

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Pariah
Apple has been using Intel network and RAID chips for years. "Chips" is a rather vague description and could encompass a whole range of products. Apple could be looking for something to run a new generation of iPod's or portable multimedia player like the one Creative has. Who knows.

WTF, Why not AMD. You would think Intel and Microsoft woul be their biggest rivals.

Because most successful companies are run by businessmen not fan boys. If this is in fact a deal for general purpose x86 CPU's there would be no point in Apple going with AMD. Apple is likely looking for a low cost highly available product. It's no secret the problems Apple has had with getting enough G4's and then G5's for their systems. And we all know AMD isn't exactly the volume king of the x86 world. Why move from one problem to another company with the same problem?

Steve Jobs is his own biggest fanboy.

 

[Pariah]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Pariah
Apple has been using Intel network and RAID chips for years. "Chips" is a rather vague description and could encompass a whole range of products. Apple could be looking for something to run a new generation of iPod's or portable multimedia player like the one Creative has. Who knows.

WTF, Why not AMD. You would think Intel and Microsoft woul be their biggest rivals.

Because most successful companies are run by businessmen not fan boys. If this is in fact a deal for general purpose x86 CPU's there would be no point in Apple going with AMD. Apple is likely looking for a low cost highly available product. It's no secret the problems Apple has had with getting enough G4's and then G5's for their systems. And we all know AMD isn't exactly the volume king of the x86 world. Why move from one problem to another company with the same problem?

Steve Jobs is his own biggest fanboy.

True, but you're supposed to be a fanboy of the company you run/work for. Business deals of this magnitude aren't made based on which company you like more or which one you think is cooler. It's about making money, first and foremost.

 

[Acanthus]

If apple does cut a deal with intel, it wont be x86.

 

[stevty2889]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
If apple does cut a deal with intel, it wont be x86.

Thats what I was thinking, I was thinking they would have make a CPU thats compatible with their current software.

 

[Vee]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Steve Jobs is his own biggest fanboy.

No. I'm a bigger fan of Steven than he is of himself. So that's at least one.

 

[Oyeve]

Originally posted by: Vee

Originally posted by: Oyeve
Also, Apple prides themselves as being a very stable platform and AMD (NOT knocking AMD, so no flaming, I have a coupla AMD systems) is not as stable as intel.

- Nonsens!

Also: - You ARE knocking AMD! So who do you try to fool?

1. Learn to spell
2. I am not knocking AMD. As I have stated I have a few AMD systems. The world knows that Intel has a more stable CPU. AMD fanboys can argue to death but facts are facts. An Intel CPU on an Intel motherboard is the most stable.
3. Relax.

 

[uOpt]

AMDs are just fine with AMD chipsets.

In fact I have seen huge problems with Intel combos (Intel CPU, Intel chipset, supermicro board) combos lately which (surprise) are triggered by heat. Opteron replacements (Tyan/AMD board) in the same space do fine although they take even more power.

I wasn't happy with my NVidia chipset under anything but Windoze, and we are talking FreeBSD here. My via socket754 seems allright, though.

 

[Vee]

Originally posted by: Oyeve
1. Learn to spell

Thankyou.

("coupla")

 

[loic2003]

Heard this story a thousand times before. It's not going to happen.
Previously it's been thought to have been a tactic to reduce the price the current chip manufacturers sell for: "well... we could just go for intel chips, unless you can offer us something better"

Converting the OS over to new architecture and providing support during the long transition would far outweigh any advantages offered by the Intel chips. Having said that they did go for an architecture change when going from the 68000's to the powerPC, but they had a fraction the user base back then.

Cliffs:This 'news' is a load of poo.

 

[Oyeve]

Originally posted by: Vee

Originally posted by: Oyeve
1. Learn to spell

Thankyou.

("coupla")

Intentional slang.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: Oyeve
I am not knocking AMD. As I have stated I have a few AMD systems. The world knows that Intel has a more stable CPU. AMD fanboys can argue to death but facts are facts. An Intel CPU on an Intel motherboard is the most stable.

You are mixing up the facts.

Stability of CPU is a not issue.

In fact, since you seem to like mentioning facts, according to Tom's Hardware's screwed up stability test that they did recently, the AMD proved to be slightly more stable :Q

It is reputed that "An Intel CPU on an Intel motherboard is the most stable." Okay. I will accept that, because it is generally regarded to be true.

However, that's a motherboard thing, NOT a CPU thing!

Take away that Intel motherboard, & your statement about CPUs loses all its validity.

 

[dullard]

All but official now. Official reports are to come in an hour or so. All over the news. Replacing low priced machines at the moment. A later decision would be made on the higher end machines. Expected 20% price cuts on the low end Apple machines. This may go beyond computers as well as Intel wants to get into other markets (think of all of Apple's product lines).

 

[Fern]

Yeah, it looks real. It's all over the front page of the Wall Street Journal.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: dullard
All but official now. Official reports are to come in an hour or so. All over the news. Replacing low priced machines at the moment. A later decision would be made on the higher end machines. Expected 20% price cuts on the low end Apple machines. This may go beyond computers as well as Intel wants to get into other markets (think of all of Apple's product lines).

They will be running on all Intel by 2007.