Apple Outrages Users By Automatically Installing U2's Album On Their Devices

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xBiffx

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This whole outrage is so hilarious. It's like Apple customers have never heard of bloatware. Well, let me be the first to tell you that you aren't immune to it. Newsflash: its been happening for years and its not getting anyone sued for breaking some sort of law. It's crap, it sucks, but please shut the fuck up about it already. You got an Apple so that someone else could do the decision making for you, you have no leg to stand on when Apple decides to be stupid and give you shitty bloatware.

Here, this will help end your pain.

http://support.apple.com/kb/ht6439
 

Veliko

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This whole outrage is so hilarious. It's like Apple customers have never heard of bloatware. Well, let me be the first to tell you that you aren't immune to it. Newsflash: its been happening for years and its not getting anyone sued for breaking some sort of law. It's crap, it sucks, but please shut the fuck up about it already. You got an Apple so that someone else could do the decision making for you, you have no leg to stand on when Apple decides to be stupid and give you shitty bloatware.

Your desperation to prove to everyone how clever you are is even more hilarious tbh
 

Cozarkian

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This whole outrage is so hilarious. It's like Apple customers have never heard of bloatware. Well, let me be the first to tell you that you aren't immune to it. Newsflash: its been happening for years and its not getting anyone sued for breaking some sort of law.

Two wrongs don't make a right. Take a stand against bloatware.
 

xBiffx

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Your desperation to prove to everyone how clever you are is even more hilarious tbh

Your desperation to make this into something is isn't is also quite hilarious.

Apple customers gonna whine....
 

Pens1566

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Apparently not. I don't see a lawsuit or anything besides butthurt Apple customers coming from this.

Are you so stupid to believe that because nothing has been made public in the ~week or so since this occurred that there won't be some form of legal action??? Never mind, forgot who I was asking. Of course you are. Carry on.

Anyway, the fact that Apple itself has realized their error and given users a special tool to remove the content proves you are/were wrong. No self defined goal post of legal action necessary.
 
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xBiffx

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Are you so stupid to believe that because nothing has been made public in the ~week or so since this occurred that there won't be some form of legal action??? Never mind, forgot who I was asking. Of course you are. Carry on.

Anyway, the fact that Apple itself has realized their error and given users a special tool to remove the content proves you are/were wrong. No self defined goal post of legal action necessary.

Are you stupid enough to believe that this somehow constitutes the need for legal action? I guess so.

Apple decides that all the negativity is bad, so they release a tool. That doesn't constitute surrendering in any legal matter. Keep in mind the album is still there, for free, to be automatically downloaded. Apple hasn't reversed that, if they did, you might have a point.

Again, Apple customers gonna whine....

And Apple sucks.
 
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Pens1566

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Are you stupid enough to believe that this somehow constitutes the need for legal action? I guess so.

Apple decides that all the negativity is bad, so they release a tool. That doesn't constitute surrendering in any legal matter. Keep in mind the album is still there, for free, to be automatically downloaded. Apple hasn't reversed that, if they did, you might have a point.

Again, Apple customers gonna whine....

And Apple sucks.

The "legal action" bull shit was your made up goal post that you pulled from your own ass, no one else stated as such. And nice strawman.

Not an apple customer. Swing and a miss, again. Learn to read.
 

Rakehellion

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I have, I don't buy Apple. :D

Might want to rethink that.

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werepossum

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Where again do updates fit in? They are part of that setting, no purchase required. So that one liner isn't the end all, be all. That's why there are terms and conditions. If you read that, its quite clear what is covered under automatic downloads.
But an iPhone user logically could have automatic updates (over whose timing she has no control) turned off to avoid roaming charges, have automatic music downloads turned on (since she has control over when and where she purchases music), and still get bitten by roaming charges when Apple decides to purchase something for her which gets automatically downloaded wherever she happens to be.
 

RampantAndroid

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But an iPhone user logically could have automatic updates (over whose timing she has no control) turned off to avoid roaming charges, have automatic music downloads turned on (since she has control over when and where she purchases music), and still get bitten by roaming charges when Apple decides to purchase something for her which gets automatically downloaded wherever she happens to be.

Excellent point; this is what I'm trying to get across.

STOP CONFLATING INSTALL WITH DOWNLOAD. My steam games download automatically, all the time. Why, because I elected them to.

I didn't. I didn't mention install other than as an applicability rule (as in, don't auto-download games compiled against Windows on to my OSX machine). I talk about steam because it's a scenario taken to the extreme, where games can be in the gigabytes. If steam pull this type of nonsense, people would also be up in arms. Don't know why you think I'm conflating the two.

Where again do updates fit in? They are part of that setting, no purchase required. So that one liner isn't the end all, be all. That's why there are terms and conditions. If you read that, its quite clear what is covered under automatic downloads.

They are a separate setting, as I already said. They're also hard coded to not DL if they're over a certain size, unless you're on Wifi. You're conflating updates with new content.

ROFL, I'm guessing you have no idea what you are talking about, considering this is all past tense. Apple did it, and guess what, no one is getting sued over it. Just whiny, bitching Apple customers like yourself want to claim this is the end of the world and the sky is falling. The horror, the horror!!!

Apple sucks, get over it.

Whiny? Bitchy? I didn't get this music...so the only stake I have in this is:
a.) Watching you flagellate yourself in front of us
b.) It's abuse of a setting and makes me wonder what other settings work differently than the UI tells me.

I've dealt with legal and UI designers enough to know this type of stuff gets scrutinized so that it's as accurate, clear and concise as possible - at least at larger companies it is.
 

xBiffx

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But an iPhone user logically could have automatic updates (over whose timing she has no control) turned off to avoid roaming charges, have automatic music downloads turned on (since she has control over when and where she purchases music), and still get bitten by roaming charges when Apple decides to purchase something for her which gets automatically downloaded wherever she happens to be.

Using cell data is a global setting. You can't have it on for certain things like music but off for others like apps, its all or nothing. So the only way that the user gets hit is if they selected to download over cellular. A stupid move, especially if they have tons of their own content already.
 

RampantAndroid

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Using cell data is a global setting. You can't have it on for certain things like music but off for others like apps, its all or nothing. So the only way that the user gets hit is if they selected to download over cellular. A stupid move, especially if they have tons of their own content already.

...huh? There is a specific toggle switch for updates. So you can reasonably turn off app auto updating leave on cell data. At that point, from the disclaimer about purchases, one could assume that downloads would only happen when:


Buying apps.
Buying music.
Buying Books.
 

xBiffx

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...huh? There is a specific toggle switch for updates. So you can reasonably turn off app auto updating leave on cell data. At that point, from the disclaimer about purchases, one could assume that downloads would only happen when:


Buying apps.
Buying music.
Buying Books.

Buying not required, and we've already beat that horse to death but by all means get it back up and see if its still breathing. You download anything that is in your account that isn't on your device already (would happen with a newly connected device, no purchase necessary). You have automatic downloading still on. Anything that is still on is going to automatically download. If cell data is still on, you are going to automatically download what is still turned on over cell network. This could result in overages. Is that too difficult to figure out? I guess so. /smh
 

RampantAndroid

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Buying not required, and we've already beat that horse to death but by all means get it back up and see if its still breathing. You download anything that is in your account that isn't on your device already (would happen with a newly connected device, no purchase necessary). You have automatic downloading still on. Anything that is still on is going to automatically download. If cell data is still on, you are going to automatically download what is still turned on over cell network. This could result in overages. Is that too difficult to figure out? I guess so. /smh

So when people start to pile up to disagree with you, the horse has been beaten to death? OK.

Adding space doesn't reduce bloatware, silly.


Yeah - remember the "32GB" Surface? It had 16GB of free space from day one. That chart is about what is advertised (which of course is GiB vs GB) vs what is available when you turn the device on with no extra content installed/downloaded.
 

Zaap

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Adding space doesn't reduce bloatware, silly.

No, but being able to root/ROM/debloat/keep photos, video, music, large data files external /control every aspect of your phone does. To say nothing of starting with larger capacities than 16GB onboard in the first place.

Meanwhile, it amazes me how much space 'other' eats up on people's iPhones. My wife's takes an automatic hit of roughly 4GB whatever she does.