Apple needs a stern talking to...

LilPima

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I just recently upgraded my Ipod from an 8 GB nano to a 120 GB video and everything else model. I had little problems transferring all of my music files to the new one, but want to load some of my DVDs and tv series onto it to watch on my long commute. Last night I tried, and found that I need to download up to 6 different programs to crack codes and zip and unzip non-bootleg discs that I already own and paid for!!

I'm not paying $40 again for each season of House I have on DVD just to watch it on a one inch screen. Is there an easier way? A friend is going to try to crack the programs for me today, I'll see how it goes. Yesterday I was very angry and yelled for about 30 minutes. :)



Cliffs:
- New ipod
- Can't load stuff
- Not buying it again on Itunes
- ???
- no profit :(
 

coldmeat

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I don't understand how your problem is related to Apple/iTunes at all.
 

Tweak155

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Originally posted by: coldmeat
I don't understand how your problem is related to Apple/iTunes at all.

Because a female blames whoever/whatever they want as long as it isn't themselves.

Tripped? It's the shoes.
 

AstroManLuca

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Originally posted by: coldmeat
I don't understand how your problem is related to Apple/iTunes at all.

It's because when you buy something on iTunes, you have to keep backup copies on your computer because they don't let you re-download anything you've bought. LilPima apparently transferred some stuff to her Nano and then deleted it from her computer, and now she can't transfer it back to her computer (without using some other program) so she can put it on her new iPod.

I think it's a dumb policy myself (I like the Steam method where you can re-download anything you want, as many times as you want, as long as you're logged in), but it's not exactly Apple's fault. And it's been common knowledge for years now that you can't move stuff from your iPod back to your computer without some sort of hack.
 

coldmeat

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Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: coldmeat
I don't understand how your problem is related to Apple/iTunes at all.

It's because when you buy something on iTunes, you have to keep backup copies on your computer because they don't let you re-download anything you've bought. LilPima apparently transferred some stuff to her Nano and then deleted it from her computer, and now she can't transfer it back to her computer (without using some other program) so she can put it on her new iPod.

Oh, the OP is confusing. I thought she was having problems with copyright protection when ripping her dvds.
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: coldmeat
I don't understand how your problem is related to Apple/iTunes at all.

It's because when you buy something on iTunes, you have to keep backup copies on your computer because they don't let you re-download anything you've bought. LilPima apparently transferred some stuff to her Nano and then deleted it from her computer, and now she can't transfer it back to her computer (without using some other program) so she can put it on her new iPod.

So basically the problem is stupidity or a lack or preparedness, whichever you want to call it, on her part.
 

an51r

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Use a program to rip the DVD to your computer and then use Quick Media Converter (free) to convert it to ipod format. This will be a lengthy process though and agree with others that your best bet is to sell the ipod and buy something else. You could also just torrent the house seasons in ipod format which would be legal since you own them ( I think )
 

MrChad

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There's no need to buy them if you already own the movie.

1. Download a copy of DVDFab HD Decrypter and install. Use this to rip your DVDs to your hard drive.
2. Download a copy of Handbrake. Point it to the folder(s) where you ripped your DVDs, select the iPod preset that applies to your model and encode. You'll have high quality rips of your shows without paying another dime for the movie.
3. Add the videos to your iTunes library, follow this guide to tag them properly, and head over to Get Video Artwork to get your cover art.

EDIT: BTW, both of these pieces of software are free to download and install.
 

jdini76

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Everyone says to "just do this" or "Just get something else" But no one gives any suggestions as what to get in place of it that will do what she wants or directiosn as to how to rip the dvd without having to purchase any additional software. Worthless advice.

Edit: with the exception of MrChad.
 

coldmeat

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Originally posted by: MrChad
There's no need to buy them if you already own the movie.

1. Download a copy of DVDFab HD Decrypter and install. Use this to rip your DVDs to your hard drive.
2. Download a copy of Handbrake. Point it to the folder(s) where you ripped your DVDs, select the iPod preset that applies to your model and encode. You'll have high quality rips of your shows without paying another dime for the movie.

I use DVDfab, but Videora instead of Handbrake. Have you tried Videora and prefer Handbrake, or have you just tried the one and stuck with it? I've never tried Handbrake.
 

MrChad

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Originally posted by: coldmeat
Originally posted by: MrChad
There's no need to buy them if you already own the movie.

1. Download a copy of DVDFab HD Decrypter and install. Use this to rip your DVDs to your hard drive.
2. Download a copy of Handbrake. Point it to the folder(s) where you ripped your DVDs, select the iPod preset that applies to your model and encode. You'll have high quality rips of your shows without paying another dime for the movie.

I use DVDfab, but Videora instead of Handbrake. Have you tried Videora and prefer Handbrake, or have you just tried the one and stuck with it? I've never tried Handbrake.

I saw Handbrake recommended frequently so that's what I went with. I've just started ripping / encoding DVDs recently since I got an iPod Touch for Christmas.

Handbrake is dead simple to use and the quality seems great so far. I only wish it was faster, but that's really an issue with my 6 year old PC (Athlon XP 1600+ with 512 MB RAM :p).
 

DaveSimmons

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Last night I tried, and found that I need to download up to 6 different programs to crack codes and zip and unzip non-bootleg discs that I already own and paid for!!

Apple would be sued by the MPAA / movie studios if iTunes allowed you to break the copy protection on DVDs. Google the "DMCA"

Music CDs have the audio unprotected on the disc so iTunes can rip songs without legal problems.

Short answer: it's the movie studios you should hate, not Apple.
 

shiner

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Yes, sell the iPod. It is obviously Apple's fault that you didn't have the foresight to properly backup your content.
 

bobdole369

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See OP the media companies don't want you to do this, instead - they want you to view the content in a method that they choose. They don't offer your house DVD's in ipod format yet, so you don't get to do that (in their eyes). They've gone so far as to create legislation in the USA that makes it ILLEGAL to do this (defeating copy protection is a violation of the DMCA) - and something for which they can actually put you in JAIL!

So unless you know what you are doing - forget about it. It's not the same as dubbing a CD to tape or ripping your MP3's. (no copy protection thus no DMCA)

Never mind I misread.

Next time back it up. Don't buy from itunes.
 

ultimatebob

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I like Handbrake on the Mac for ripping DVD's into iPod friendly formats. It does it all automatically on the Mac version... no problems, no extra software needed.
 

Leros

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You fail to understand the Apple/iTunes model. You're supposed to buy it again on iTunes.
 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: coldmeat
I don't understand how your problem is related to Apple/iTunes at all.

It's because when you buy something on iTunes, you have to keep backup copies on your computer because they don't let you re-download anything you've bought. LilPima apparently transferred some stuff to her Nano and then deleted it from her computer, and now she can't transfer it back to her computer (without using some other program) so she can put it on her new iPod.

So basically the problem is stupidity or a lack or preparedness, whichever you want to call it, on her part.

Originally posted by: LilPima
I had little problems transferring all of my music files to the new one

sounds like she has her music

but want to load some of my DVDs and tv series onto it to watch on my long commute. Last night I tried, and found that I need to download up to 6 different programs to crack codes and zip and unzip non-bootleg discs that I already own and paid for!!

and that while itunes will rip a cd, she didnt know it wont rip a dvd. this is what shes complaining about, because she didnt realize itunes lacked the functionality. she assumed that since she bought the god damn dvds, shed be easily able to watch the content of them on whatever devices she has and that itunes would help her with it.

sadly, DRM is a bitch. i have a copy of HL2 that i gave my brother years ago, but he has no idea what his steam account info was, so despite holding the retail box and cd....i cant play the fucking thing until i get his account sorted out.
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Originally posted by: coldmeat
I don't understand how your problem is related to Apple/iTunes at all.

It's because when you buy something on iTunes, you have to keep backup copies on your computer because they don't let you re-download anything you've bought. LilPima apparently transferred some stuff to her Nano and then deleted it from her computer, and now she can't transfer it back to her computer (without using some other program) so she can put it on her new iPod.

So basically the problem is stupidity or a lack or preparedness, whichever you want to call it, on her part.

Originally posted by: LilPima
I had little problems transferring all of my music files to the new one

sounds like she has her music

but want to load some of my DVDs and tv series onto it to watch on my long commute. Last night I tried, and found that I need to download up to 6 different programs to crack codes and zip and unzip non-bootleg discs that I already own and paid for!!

and that while itunes will rip a cd, she didnt know it wont rip a dvd. this is what shes complaining about, because she didnt realize itunes lacked the functionality. she assumed that since she bought the god damn dvds, shed be easily able to watch the content of them on whatever devices she has and that itunes would help her with it.

sadly, DRM is a bitch. i have a copy of HL2 that i gave my brother years ago, but he has no idea what his steam account info was, so despite holding the retail box and cd....i cant play the fucking thing until i get his account sorted out.


So again....it is Apple's fault that she didn't know the functionality of the program?

Awesome...next time I want a roast I'm going to just throw all the ingredients in the oven and when it doesn't put them all together and make it for me I'm going to be pissed at Thermador.