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dullard
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Beginner's mistake. A patent in 120 countries is easilly $100,000+ just to start. Think filing fees (in many countries), translation fees (into many languages), lawyer fees (in many countries), maintanence fees (in many countries), etc. That £60,000 was really just the beginning of the pain.
Never, ever, ever patent a product in that many countries unless you already have many millions of dollars. He didn't have that much, thus, he ruined his company. No, instead, patent it in the US, Japan, and maybe a handful of European countries. Not many competitors would bother to copy your product if they can't produce, use, or sell them in those countries.
And even suppose you did have patents in 120 countries and suppose someone in tim-buck-two decided to rip you off. Could you even afford to sue them if you didn't already have millions of dollars to waste? Nope. International lawsuits in coutries where neither you nor your lawyers know the language and goverments may be corrupt are very expensive or impossible to prosecute. Patents in those countries are worthless. No, they are worse than worthless, they are massive drains that ruin small businesses.
This doesn't even consider that a 30-year old product would likely have little to no patent coverage left.
Well, whatever, you're an idiot.
The entire design is just like an iPod. It has the same 5 point button device. A screen at the top to display things and it was designed as the size of a CC. Are you blind?
Not to mention it's the concept as a whole that is identical to the iPod.
But the technology wasn't around back then to do anything with the idea. Most computers didn't even have the ability to play realistic sound effects until the late 80's when the Sound Blaster card came out.
There were no memory chips capable of holding that much memory back then, either. There was no mp3 format or any music formats for that matter.
The article credits him with inventing the "technology" behind it, but all he came up with was an idea with no way to get it to work.
That's like me drawing a teleporter and then claiming that I "invented" it if anybody ever manages to develop the technology to build one.
0roo0roo
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the concept is obvious. direction pad is not a mind blowing leap of imagination. there are only so many places to put a screen on a device, what did you expect, a screen on the back?
its like saying that star trek creator Gene Roddenberry invented the PDA or the cellphone or the flat panel monitor or speech recognition. imagining a concept for future technology is relatively easy, making it is not.
It could hold 3.5 minutes. "His invention, called the IXI, stored only 3.5 minutes of music on to a chip ? but Mr Kramer rightly believed its capacity would improve."
So you're saying the Model-T wasn't a real car because it didn't have fuel-injection, airbags, forced induction, could do 0-60 in 5 seconds and go 400 miles on a tank of gas? It's called progression. It all starts with an idea. That's how INVENTIONS work. That's why you get patents on things, because A-holes tend to think that just because it might not be fessible the second the concept is created that it doesn't belong to that person and they can steal it.
He thought of and created this well before his time. Dude, EVEN APPLE says he created the ipod before anyone else..lol It's been used in a lawsuit!!
0roo0roo
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http://emfinstitute.emf.org/exhibits/belllabs.html
In 1957, Max Mathews, an acoustic researcher at Bell Telephone Laboratories in Murray Hill, New Jersey, wrote Music I and used it to generate the first examples of digital audio. During the next years, he finished Music II, Music III, and Music IV.
In 1964, Jean-Claude Risset arrived at Bell Labs and used Music IV to digitize the sound of a trumpet. It was the first successful digital reproduction of a brass instrument. It also marked the beginning of acoustic research linked to digital synthesis. Max Mathews, Joan Miller, and others produced, among other things, a computer voice singing 'Bicycle Built for Two'.
Bicycle Built for Two
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In the photo at the left, Jean-Claude Risset explains a computer- synthesized trumpet tone to a group of colleagues at Bell Labs in 1964.
mixing computers and music has been done for a long long time.
why do you think hal 9000 sang daisy?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisy_Bell
"The IBM 704 was not the first computer to play Daisy Bell, as this song was popular on the UNIVAC I. Playback of music was demonstrated in early 1951 on the UNIVAC I at the event celebrating the first operation of the machine."
In 1957, Max Mathews, an acoustic researcher at Bell Telephone Laboratories in Murray Hill, New Jersey, wrote Music I and used it to generate the first examples of digital audio. During the next years, he finished Music II, Music III, and Music IV.
In 1964, Jean-Claude Risset arrived at Bell Labs and used Music IV to digitize the sound of a trumpet. It was the first successful digital reproduction of a brass instrument. It also marked the beginning of acoustic research linked to digital synthesis. Max Mathews, Joan Miller, and others produced, among other things, a computer voice singing 'Bicycle Built for Two'.
Bicycle Built for Two
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In the photo at the left, Jean-Claude Risset explains a computer- synthesized trumpet tone to a group of colleagues at Bell Labs in 1964.
mixing computers and music has been done for a long long time.
why do you think hal 9000 sang daisy?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisy_Bell
"The IBM 704 was not the first computer to play Daisy Bell, as this song was popular on the UNIVAC I. Playback of music was demonstrated in early 1951 on the UNIVAC I at the event celebrating the first operation of the machine."
0roo0roo
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model t is a poor comparison. this is far more primitive, the model T was practical for its day, this was not at all useful. in fact remember the pos pmp300 rio? that came out 2 decades after and only had 32mb. i had one, and even then it was functionally useless. in 79 they were no where near being on the verge of making anything useful.
the model t had a range of up to 210 miles. it was a useful car.
15 million model t's were sold. if this "ipod" sold 15 million u'd have a point. the reality is they couldn't do squat with it.
I see you're feeling anal and snippy today.
His invention was just a natural step in the evolution of portable music players. His wasn't the first as others made players that played tapes around that time. Tape was a superior choice to memory chips since it was inexpensive, could be changed out easily, and had a long play time.
As OrooOroo pointed out, his invention wasn't practical at all. He made a device similar to other devices on the market that used a completely impractical storage medium.
Ideas don't mean shit.
Everybody has ideas, but it takes engineering, testing, production, marketing and financing to actually realize an idea.
Everybody has ideas, but it takes engineering, testing, production, marketing and financing to actually realize an idea.
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Interesting article if your curious to see where Jonathan Ives gets his inspiration for the design of most apple products.
http://gizmodo.com/343641/1960...crets-to-apples-future
http://gizmodo.com/343641/1960...crets-to-apples-future
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