Apparently Women Still Don't Know There Is A War Against Them

[cubby1223]

Interesting survey data out today on a few of the Illinois races:
http://politics.suntimes.com/articl...ace-—-divisions-downstate/thu-10302014-1230am

Perhaps more surprisingly, the survey also showed Quinn was hurting when it came to the women's vote – with 38 percent of the women polled saying they’d vote for Quinn, compared to 55 percent of women backing Rauner. In the Senate race, Oberweis was also doing better among women than Durbin.
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And McKeon said women want to hear more about good-paying jobs and the economy and believe that the Democratic message has been too focused on social issues and the minimum wage.

“Women are in bad shape in the work force and the Democrats, all they’re doing is pushing social issues, overwhelmingly,” McKeon argued.

In the gubernatorial race, Quinn is the Democrat and Rauner the Republican, and polls show a dead heat, maybe slight edge to Quinn. For U.S. Senate, Durbin is the incumbent Democrat & Oberweis is the Republican challenger, and polls show an easy Durbin re-election.


In such a heavily Democratic state it is odd how they have not been able to convince the female population the GOP is waging a war against them! Is it Stockholm syndrome? I personally believe women have the capacity to make up their own minds on which political party they choose to vote for or support, for whatever reasons they choose to decide on, rather than essentially bullying them into one way of thinking on the subject. But that's just me.

(for general partisan knowledge, the Sun Times is the more liberal paper out of Chicago, usually endorsing the Democratic candidates versus the Tribune historically backing Republicans)

 

[xBiffx]

In such a heavily Democratic state it is odd how they have not been able to convince the female population the GOP is waging a war against them! Is it Stockholm syndrome?

Don't kid yourself. IL is a heavily red state. There just so happens to be 2-3 counties that offset the rest of the state.

IL is a microcosm of the rest of the country. Vast swaths of red surrounding islands of deep blue.

 

[unokitty]

Don't kid yourself. IL is a heavily red state. There just so happens to be 2-3 counties that offset the rest of the state.

IL is a microcosm of the rest of the country. Vast swaths of red surrounding islands of deep blue.

In the 2012 presidential election, Illinois voted Democratic.
Governor of Illinois is a Democrat.
Democrats control Illinois State Senate 40 to 19.
Democrats control Illinois State House 71 to 41.
Senior Senator from Illinois is a Democrat.
Democratic Representatives from Illinois outnumber Republicans 12 to 6.

However, the Junior Senator from Illinois is a Republican.

This makes Illinois a 'heavily red' state? A 'vast swath of red surrounding islands of deep blue'?

Interesting.

Uno

 

[Atomic Playboy]

In the 2012 presidential election, Illinois voted Democratic.
Governor of Illinois is a Democrat.
Democrats control Illinois State Senate 40 to 19.
Democrats control Illinois State House 71 to 41.
Senior Senator from Illinois is a Democrat.
Democratic Representatives from Illinois outnumber Republicans 12 to 6.

However, the Junior Senator from Illinois is a Republican.

This makes Illinois a 'heavily red' state? A 'vast swath of red surrounding islands of deep blue'?

Interesting.

Uno

That's from the 2010 governor election. A lot of states look like that; the rural areas are typically highly conservative and the urban areas are highly liberal. It just happens that 75% of Illinois lives in the Chicago metro area. So while large swaths of the state may show up red on a map, that represents the view of like 13 people.

 

[Victorian Gray]

That's from the 2010 governor election. A lot of states look like that; the rural areas are typically highly conservative and the urban areas are highly liberal. It just happens that 75% of Illinois lives in the Chicago metro area. So while large swaths of the state may show up red on a map, that represents the view of like 13 people.

(serious question) How does that map explain the overwhelming democratic party control of the state senate and house? Those election aren't state wide are they? Too lazy to look it up but I'm guessing they have individual districts that they run in?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

<derp>


Sorry, LONG freaking day at work, already properly answered.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

(serious question) How does that map explain the overwhelming democratic party control of the state senate and house? Those election aren't state wide are they? Too lazy to look it up but I'm guessing they have individual districts that they run in?

It was 2010 and there was a lot of conservative blowback to the Obama election in 2008. You can look at random elections to paint any picture you want; Obama's senatorial election in 2004 has virtually every district in blue. I don't actually live in Illinois so I won't speak to that state's political demographics, but it's not uncommon for a state to have proportional representation by district which leads to most of the state representatives coming from a couple of large cities and huge segments of rural land that get "less" representation because they have far fewer people living there.

 

[unokitty]

That's from the 2010 governor election. A lot of states look like that; the rural areas are typically highly conservative and the urban areas are highly liberal. It just happens that 75% of Illinois lives in the Chicago metro area. So while large swaths of the state may show up red on a map, that represents the view of like 13 people.

Those few blue areas control both state houses, the Governorship, the Federal House of Representatives and the Senior Federal Senator.

Perhaps that helps to understand the results of that recent Gallup Poll.

Uno

 

[xBiffx]

It just happens that 75% of Illinois lives in the Chicago metro area. So while large swaths of the state may show up red on a map, that represents the view of like 13 people.

Not even half of the people of IL live in Cook county.

 

[BurnItDwn]

I am a liberal Illinoisan.

Rauner = possible scumbag, but appears to be moderate, at least compared to most of his party. Seems like somebody who one could work with.

Quinn is fail. He has not helped to solve IL spending or debt problems. He hasn't improved anything. He is worse than Blagoyovich... Essentially, he is so very bad, and corrupt, than life long democrat voters will gladly vote republican to get him the hell out of office.

Democrats for Rauner!

 

[BurnItDwn]

Not even half of the people of IL live in Cook county.

Chicago Metro area includes DeKalb, DuPage, Grundy, Kane, Kendall, Lake, McHenry, and Will counties in Illinois; Jasper, Lake, Newton, and Porter counties in Indiana; and Kenosha county in Wisconsin.

That said, it is true that a number of the suburbs tend to be pretty conservative, but there are also moderate and liberal suburbs too.


Illinois population is just shy of 13 million.
Chicago area is generally considered to be between 8-10 million depending upon how you define the limits/borders.

 

[Newell Steamer]

So, it took two years for the GOP to clean up it's act.

The attack line -- aimed at painting Republicans as out of sync with women on contraception, abortion and other issues -- isn't resonating like in 2012, when Democrats hurled it at the GOP with a devastating effect.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/27/politics/war-on-women/

This time around, there aren't any candidates talking about "legitimate rape" or "binders full of women." And the GOP put up strong female candidates in states like Iowa and Michigan, making it harder for Democrats to attack them as opposed to the interests of women.

The strategy seems to be paying off.

Great - they have improved.

:thumbsup:

Let's see what actually happens when they get elected.

 

[chucky2]

Basically once you leave Crook, you have stepped - at the county level - from Blue to Red. Like BurnItDown states though, there are certainly towns that are either outright Blue or have a pretty high % of Blue representation. For the most part though, you could take Chicago and Crook Co., and make it it's own state, divide St. Clair Co. between the E. St. Louis section and the country/developed country section, give the E. St. Louis section to Missouri, and then the entirety of the rest of IL would be pretty much on the same page.

Illinois is really a perfect example of why having Gov meddling any further than your county is a bad idea - keep Gov as close as possible at all times.

 

[xBiffx]

Chicago Metro area includes DeKalb, DuPage, Grundy, Kane, Kendall, Lake, McHenry, and Will counties in Illinois; Jasper, Lake, Newton, and Porter counties in Indiana; and Kenosha county in Wisconsin.

That said, it is true that a number of the suburbs tend to be pretty conservative, but there are also moderate and liberal suburbs too.


Illinois population is just shy of 13 million.
Chicago area is generally considered to be between 8-10 million depending upon how you define the limits/borders.

http://www.indexmundi.com/facts/united-states/quick-facts/illinois/population#map

Cook, Dupage, Lake, and Will. Still only about 50%. And Cook is the only blue one out of the bunch.

 

[Atreus21]

Don't kid yourself. IL is a heavily red state. There just so happens to be 2-3 counties that offset the rest of the state.

IL is a microcosm of the rest of the country. Vast swaths of red surrounding islands of deep blue.

C'mon. Those "vast swaths of red" are the rural areas where population density is low. The blue areas are cities.

 

[xBiffx]

C'mon. Those "vast swaths of red" are the rural areas where population density is low. The blue areas are cities.

Okay, but the population is about the same overall. There are a lot of cities in IL, even in the swaths.