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Apparently shouting 'USA!' at a college football game is offensive now

dammitgibs

Senior member
http://www.dailyillini.com/opinions...t-portrays-neither-patriotism-nor-remembrance

The observance at Saturday’s football game was no different. A moment of silence was followed by a military airplane flyover; in between, Block-I students chanted “USA, USA.” This was neither patriotism nor remembrance in any justifiable sense, but politicization, militarism, propaganda and bellicosity...

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The overwhelmingly white, privileged, Block-I students should be ashamed of their obnoxious, fake-macho, chicken-hawk chant, while poverty-drafted members of their cohort fight and die in illegal and immoral wars for the control of oil. University administrators need to eliminate from all events such “patriotic” observances, which in this country cannot be separated from implicit justifications for state-sponsored killing.

David Green,

University Academic Professional

This is classic, a perfect example of tolerance for all, except those I disagree with. I don't know what a "University Academic Professional" is but I hope this is just some RA that likes to smell his own farts and not an actual professor that is spreading this self-hate but who knows.
 
http://www.dailyillini.com/opinions...t-portrays-neither-patriotism-nor-remembrance



This is classic, a perfect example of tolerance for all, except those I disagree with.

It's not even that good. No, this is what's being classically preached by the liberal left in our country. It's in the same vein as the President saying that there's a point when a person has "made enough money".

This is "tolerance for all, except ourselves". We the free, white, "privileged" Americans shouldn't be happy with our success...we should be loath to celebrate it, and instead feel sorry because of it.

You are right in stating that this idiot of an "academic professional" is filled with self-hate.
 
It's not even that good. No, this is what's being classically preached by the liberal left in our country. It's in the same vein as the President saying that there's a point when a person has "made enough money".

This is "tolerance for all, except ourselves". We the free, white, "privileged" Americans shouldn't be happy with our success...we should be loath to celebrate it, and instead feel sorry because of it.

You are right in stating that this idiot of an "academic professional" is filled with self-hate.

Isn't it awfully nice when you can just decide some random jackass represents the entirety of your political opposition? I know I certainly appreciate the fact that I can do that and totally avoid having to make any sort of actual argument. After all, if one conservative, anywhere, says something dumb, that means you're all a bunch of idiots? Right?

Also, I'm not sure who decided "liberal left" was a good slur...but it lacks a certain rhetorical flourish, like the kind you can often find in a junior high debate.
 
Isn't it awfully nice when you can just decide some random jackass represents the entirety of your political opposition? I know I certainly appreciate the fact that I can do that and totally avoid having to make any sort of actual argument. After all, if one conservative, anywhere, says something dumb, that means you're all a bunch of idiots? Right?

Also, I'm not sure who decided "liberal left" was a good slur...but it lacks a certain rhetorical flourish, like the kind you can often find in a junior high debate.
Liberal slime, scum pos work for you?
 
Isn't it awfully nice when you can just decide some random jackass represents the entirety of your political opposition? I know I certainly appreciate the fact that I can do that and totally avoid having to make any sort of actual argument. After all, if one conservative, anywhere, says something dumb, that means you're all a bunch of idiots? Right?

There are at least a dozen posts every day on this forum that make this exact conclusion. It's largely what AT P&N has become, the idiots who shout loudly, and everyone else who has given up.
 
A libral librarian? Sounds like some of our left wingers here on ATPN.

Honest to God, I really have trouble keeping up with the professions some people look down their noses at. Scientists I can understand, nobody likes the smartest kid in the class. Professors, too, since they dedicate their lives to learning everything they possibly can about a field, and aren't too fond of random gomers claiming to understand the field better.

But liberal elitist LIBRARIANS? Yeah, who can forget the snooty jerks telling you were the periodicals are?
 
There are at least a dozen posts every day on this forum that make this exact conclusion. It's largely what AT P&N has become, the idiots who shout loudly, and everyone else who has given up.

That's much easier than thinking, I've noticed. Which is why you'll notice my posting here is far less frequent than it used to be. Threads have pages and pages of replies, very few actual responses.
 
Isn't it awfully nice when you can just decide some random jackass represents the entirety of your political opposition? I know I certainly appreciate the fact that I can do that and totally avoid having to make any sort of actual argument. After all, if one conservative, anywhere, says something dumb, that means you're all a bunch of idiots? Right?

Also, I'm not sure who decided "liberal left" was a good slur...but it lacks a certain rhetorical flourish, like the kind you can often find in a junior high debate.


It happens here everyday but I don't see you defending it when the post is against conservatives/republicans. On any given day most of the front page posts are anti-right.
 
It happens here everyday but I don't see you defending it when the post is against conservatives/republicans. On any given day most of the front page posts are anti-right.

Well then I guess I must just fall into the category of "everyone", because while I'm sure there are plenty of conservatives in those threads complaining about generalization, I don't see any of 'em in the "liberal = Hitler" threads.

But to be perfectly honest, the anti-conservative posts like this thread bug me too. But there are a limited number of posts I can make in a day, and as a liberal, conservative idiots just bug me more than liberal idiots. I'm not saying that the conservative idiots are BIGGER idiots (I think the idiocy is well distributed), it's just what I choose to respond to...don't read too much into it.
 
Honest to God, I really have trouble keeping up with the professions some people look down their noses at. Scientists I can understand, nobody likes the smartest kid in the class. Professors, too, since they dedicate their lives to learning everything they possibly can about a field, and aren't too fond of random gomers claiming to understand the field better.

But liberal elitist LIBRARIANS? Yeah, who can forget the snooty jerks telling you were the periodicals are?


Take it easy. I was joking with the libral librarian line.

The second statement is true.
 
It's not offensive, but it's annoying. It goes in the same category as those parents who are like "YEAH THAT'S MY SON RIGHT THERE. HE HIT THE BALL SO GOOD. SOMEONE PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS IS MY SON HITTING THE BALL. YELLING IS FUN"

*plane flies over*
YEAH THAT'S MY COUNTRY RIGHT THERE. IT HAS PLANES. SOMEONE PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I LIVE IN THE US. I CAN'T REMEMBER BECAUSE I'M WAAAY TOO DRUNK.
 
University Academic Professional
he he he
Translation: Student.

But heck, he couldn't call himself a student, that would make him sound less important.

I should note that this is an opinion page of a school news paper, crazy stuff happens there all the time.
 
Take it easy. I was joking with the libral librarian line.

The second statement is true.

I was really talking more about the first person who dismissed the guy as a librarian (CSG).

Still...tell me I'm wrong about the frequent reaction to liberals in any way associated with academia...
 
University Academic Professional
he he he
Translation: Student.

But heck, he couldn't call himself a student, that would make him sound less important.

I should note that this is an opinion page of a school news paper, crazy stuff happens there all the time.

Agreed.

And that title just sounds silly, whatever job it actually is.
 
I know plenty of alumni from UIUC who are ex-Block-I. I think the comments in the OP's link are pretty good...

"So when bars all over the country erupted in USA chants during the World Cup when the US beat Algeria, that was an aggressive charge against a Muslim country? Come on boss, you know better than that."
 
Isn't it awfully nice when you can just decide some random jackass represents the entirety of your political opposition? I know I certainly appreciate the fact that I can do that and totally avoid having to make any sort of actual argument. After all, if one conservative, anywhere, says something dumb, that means you're all a bunch of idiots? Right?

Also, I'm not sure who decided "liberal left" was a good slur...but it lacks a certain rhetorical flourish, like the kind you can often find in a junior high debate.

So...according to you, I'm neither allowed to single out one person (which I did in my post) and call him a moron nor classify him with the rest of the ideology to which he subscribes (which I also did in my post) in order to point out what is at the core of that ideology?

The quoted person (the one I was singling out) is completely full of self loathing...the same self loathing that permeates the liberals in this country all the way up to the President. That's the only point I was making, and it is fully supported by this one person (with an allusion to the President to tie it in to the greater group of people). I'm not sure where your problem is with my post, aside from the fact that you don't like that I pointed out the idiocy of the basis of his position.

Whether it's patriotism or wealth, self-loathing is at the very center of the liberal ideology. You cannot get around that. It's plain as day and it's evident in everything the Democratic and Republican parties have done in the last 10 years.

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Oh no, we can't rebuild the WTC towers...it would be too grotesque for words to make that ridiculous display of wealth and pride! We must bow and aquiesce to those whose kin destroyed them because it was our fault by being wealthy and free in the first place. Instead, we'll go pussy-foot around and try to nation-build.

It's the same thing as in this OP. The students showed pride in being Americans, and they're being slammed by someone who thinks it's grotesque to be proud of ones country.

That's no different than Obama saying that there's a point at which you've made enough money, so the rest should be given to the government.

Those types of ideas can only spring from self-loathing. If you like what you are and what you've done, there is no reason not to celebrate it.

The correct, patriotic response to 9/11 would have been to seige the entirety of the Middle East (nothing goes in or comes out) until the puppet despots and tyrants stopped fucking around and either killed or surrendered every terrorist living there and to seize the oil fields. Instead, we gave up our own domestic freedoms, spent way too much of our own money in a place that didn't want us, placated and bowed to foreign opinion, and basically bent over to all of our enemies.

And on top of that, the only building built at the WTC site is a FUCKING MOSQUE.

Hmm...maybe the person quoted in the OP is on to something afterall: maybe we shouldn't be proud of where our country has been led over the past decade-plus...our leaders (liberals, all of them) have pretty well fucked up what we had.
 
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USA USA USA! The only place on earth you can say anything you want without reprisal. Even Canada has hate speech BS. Quit whining righties dudes entitled to his opinion.
 
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University Academic Professional
he he he
Translation: Student.

But heck, he couldn't call himself a student, that would make him sound less important.

I should note that this is an opinion page of a school news paper, crazy stuff happens there all the time.

LOLZ He does sound like the type to hang around till 40 until he ran out of classes to take so they gave him some job. I peg an outreach coordinator or alum association or some such BS
 
It's not even that good. No, this is what's being classically preached by the liberal left in our country. It's in the same vein as the President saying that there's a point when a person has "made enough money".

This is "tolerance for all, except ourselves". We the free, white, "privileged" Americans shouldn't be happy with our success...we should be loath to celebrate it, and instead feel sorry because of it.

You are right in stating that this idiot of an "academic professional" is filled with self-hate.
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More like some Nerd who has a bone to pick with Frat Boys.

I bet you're an avid viewer of Faux Noise, must be, where else would you get the lame idea that we as white Americans were under attack because of our race and nationality. On the other hand maybe I'm missing something here, am I going through life oblivious to the fact that I as a White American am under constant attack from my brothers of a different race? Nah I don't think so. I do think drama bitches like you are just a lighter version of Al Sharpton, looking for a reason to be offended because of who you are
 
Does the guy that said that teach sociology ?

Found some other comments by the guy, he is another nutty supremacist with the holocaust was perpetrated by the jews, the jews are behind it all, mentality.


By DAVID GREEN
In his 2000 book The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering, scholar and critic Norman Finkelstein convincingly argues three general points. First, since the 1967 war and Israel’s military alliance with the United States, the Nazi holocaust-a historical event-has become the Holocaust, a narrow and ideologically-driven Zionist interpretation of that genocide that has been used to justify Israeli and American policies, and aggrandize Jewish-American elites in the halls of power. Second, and concurrently since 1967, a Holocaust literature has evolved apart from credible historical scholarship about the Nazi holocaust, the former which is without scholarly merit and is often fraudulent. Holocaust literature, most notably that of Elie Wiesel, has propagated specious notions of the “uniqueness” of the Holocaust and the eternal nature of anti-Semitism, both of which serve to silence criticism of Israel. Third, Finkelstein elaborated the evidence for a “double shakedown” during the late 1990s by which both survivors of the Nazi holocaust and European governments (primarily Switzerland) were exploited by Jewish organizations seeking exorbitant amounts of monetary compensation, while being held to standards far beyond those to which either the U.S. or Israel has been held in relation to the bank holdings of survivors.


 
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