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apparently canada is turning americans away in droves
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imported_Champ
Golden Member
were full, try again next week
marincounty
Diamond Member
Where is this Canada you speak of?
The Canadian procedures involved here are that the border guards will refuse entry to someone who has been convicted in the USA of an offense that would have been a CRIMINAL law conviction in Canada, even if it was not part of criminal law in the USA. By far the most common type of these cases is DUI's: that is considered a serious enough offense that it is part of the federal Criminal Code in Canada, but not so in most US states. There are procedures you can follow to solve the problem for many such offenses, but it takes time so it has to be done ahead. Basically it amounts to applying in the USA to an American court for a legal pardon, and that usually involves establishing that it was a rare event not likely to be repeated.
If you check (by website or otherwise) in advance for information surrounding entry into Canada, you most certainly will find notices about these things as warnings. But we are all so used to the easy border between our two countries we almost forget that they are different countries with different laws. Another example of very different laws surrounds carrying weapons with you, so people need to be aware of those laws, too.
If you check (by website or otherwise) in advance for information surrounding entry into Canada, you most certainly will find notices about these things as warnings. But we are all so used to the easy border between our two countries we almost forget that they are different countries with different laws. Another example of very different laws surrounds carrying weapons with you, so people need to be aware of those laws, too.
Passports are a very reliable way of establishing identity and citizenship, so they are always useful when crossing a border. But you don't need one to enter Canada as a US citizen - other documentation will do. The new passport requirements are AMERICAN law. You could enter Canada without one, but just try to get back home to the USA without it! For that reason, Canadian border officials might well ask whether you have one because they don't want to have you stuck in Canada with no way home! But technically Canada does not require an American citizen to produce a passport or a visa for entry.
FelixDeCat
Lifer
A DWI more than 10 years old is acceptable.
umbrella39
Lifer
To be fair to the OP you have to admit you probably don't meet a lot of people down in your folk's basement.
IceBergSLiM
Lifer
of course.
IceBergSLiM
Lifer
100% wrong.
DrPizza
Administrator Elite Member Goat Whisperer
wtf is wrong with that post? The US changed the border crossing rules, not Canada. Prior to 9/11, if you drove across the border "country of citizenship?" "United States" "Purpose going into Canada today?" "We're heading to the falls/shopping/whatever" "How long will you be staying?" "3 days" "Okay, go ahead. "
The only time I ever had trouble crossing the border was when I had my two sons with me. "Does the mother know the children are with you?" "Yes." "Does she know you're taking them into Canada" "uhh, no, this was just a spontaneous trip; we're camping about 15 miles from here & thought we'd take a ride into Canada."
After that, I was treated like I was abducting my own children & my children were questioned extensively. A few minutes later, we were heading into Canada.
Oh, and in case your point is about passports not being necessary, they're not.
IceBergSLiM
Lifer
Oh really? 2 weeks ago I called and showed up in person to the Canadian Consulate in NYC the day I was supposed to goto Canada to see if anything could be done because my passport had expired in May 2009.
There was absolutely nothing they could do for me.
June 1st it became law entering and leaving canada by car or plane requires a valid passport for Americans.
Passport requirements have been a complicated and everchanging issue for U.S. travellers to Canada for the past few years due to the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI), which was introduced in 2004 by the U.S. government to strengthen U.S. border security and standardize travel documentation.
Visitors from any country other than the U.S. have always needed a passport to enter Canada. On the other hand, because of a friendly border crossing agreement between Canada and the United States, Canada Border Services did not require U.S. citizens to present a passport to enter Canada. This friendly border crossing agreement used to be mutual; however, now the WHTI requires that U.S. citizens have a passport to return home. In this way, passport requirements for Canada and U.S. borders are different on paper, but, are in practice, the same. Canada will not allow a U.S. citizen into the country who does not have the proper documentation to return home.
IceBergSLiM
Lifer
http://gocanada.about.com/od/c...qt/valid_travel_ID.htm
Correct...nexus card, ehanced drivers liscence or Fast/Expres card whatever those are.
But in any case I spoke to the Canadian Consulate border guard officials they confirmed in no uncertain terms that I need a passport and an expired passport wouldn't be allowed. Which contradicts paper docs assumptions.
DrPizza
Administrator Elite Member Goat Whisperer
Enhanced driver's license - since I'm in NY, I pay an extra $10 or $15 when I renew my driver's license & it's good enough to get me into Canada (more importantly - back into the U.S.)
Also, here's something you'll be disappointed to read:
So, had you gone to the border, they probably wouldn't have turned you away; just said "what rock have you been living under? Next time, you need a passport."
edit: ooops, I closed the source - http://www.newsday.com/travel-...teep-decline-1.1322570
Also, here's something you'll be disappointed to read:
So, had you gone to the border, they probably wouldn't have turned you away; just said "what rock have you been living under? Next time, you need a passport."
edit: ooops, I closed the source - http://www.newsday.com/travel-...teep-decline-1.1322570
Old Hippie
Diamond Member
I haven't tried since they denied me entry in the 80s.
Seems I was considered undesirable from a marijuana bust in '74. :laugh:
Seems I was considered undesirable from a marijuana bust in '74. :laugh:
shortylickens
No Lifer
Same reason Mexicans are coming up to the U.S. in droves.
Only difference is we have actual proof of the Mexican droves as opposed to the OP's story.
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