Apoppin called it -Nvidia 3D displays at bestbuy

[SirPauly]

Right, and the reason is that it does not give very much added immersion without quirks and added complexity.

What it may do for many is offer much more immersion but the key is to try to improve the quirks and try to make it much easier and seamless for the consumer. Do you desire the industry to give up? Not try to improve on something that may offer more immersion for the consumer?

 

[TheMeanestGuest]

I sincerely hope 3D doesn't take off. I find it very uncomfortable and it causes pain in my left eye if I view it for any extended period of time.

Maybe when there are no glasses.

 

[BladeVenom]

lol
Comparing 2 different solutions at different timeages is retarded.

What are you about 12?

Shutter glasses are 80's technology. How are the shutter-glasses for PCs from 10 years ago, different than Nvidia's shutter glasses today? Answer that one.

Movie theater polarized glasses are 1930's technology. They have been refined, but they are still basically the same.

If I had to pick from just between the two, I'd say polarized glasses are actually the better solution. However there are newer and better solutions that Nvidia could have used, but then they couldn't have charged a bunch of suckers for overpriced shutter glasses.

It's fad, you can stomp your feet, call names, hold your breath, and cry all you want to, but it doesn't change the fact that 3d is nothing more than a reoccurring novelty. Just because you're ignorant of how old it is changes nothing.

 

[SirPauly]

http://3dvision-blog.com/tag/edimensional-shutter-glasses/

Most of the differences to me will be in software, industry behind this to build a 3d stereo ecosystem.

 

[T2k]

I'm still not impressed by 3D, maybe when I can view it without those glasses.

QFT

Glasses are ridiculous and the quality of the current "3D" stuff is exactly the same when Nvidia was bundling the SAME stupid glasses with its top cards for FREE, ~12 years...

...talk about relaunching a crappy, old tech again and asking extra money for it. :\

 

[rolodomo]

Currently playing through Deadspace in 3D on my television and it is freaking-me-out awesome. Not only do I wear the dreaded glasses, but (I can hear the "cool kids" gasping now) I wear a full-ear 7.1 headset too!

I don't need the NVIDIA tech to do this, but if anything, it probably produces a better 3D image. I just like off-loading the 3D work to the television to keep the frame rate high.

 

[extra]

I'm more interested in seeing what the porn industry does with 3d, honestly. (That's serious, by the way, lol...I think that's probably the best thing that could cause 3d to "take off" so to speak, ho ho ho.)

 

[Xarick]

I am interested in seeing what the porn industry does with kinect and 3d.

 

[tviceman]

QFT

Glasses are ridiculous and the quality of the current "3D" stuff is exactly the same when Nvidia was bundling the SAME stupid glasses with its top cards for FREE, ~12 years...

...talk about relaunching a crappy, old tech again and asking extra money for it. :\

I don't expect a worthwhile answer from you, but I'll try anyways... Is AMD just copying this "crappy, old tech" or are they doing it differently with their version of 3D?

 

[Lonbjerg]

It's funy how people who actually own the product like it...but AMD fanboys don't :sneaky:

 

[SirPauly]

I don't expect a worthwhile answer from you, but I'll try anyways... Is AMD just copying this "crappy, old tech" or are they doing it differently with their version of 3D?

It's not about forcing 3d stereo but simply a choice for 3d stereo. Many are complaining about a simple choice to actually consider. If one doesn't like it, they don't have to buy it or use it. But, what if one does? What if it actually does improve experiences? Heightens depth, scale, shape and form?

I've read all the excuses in a thread I started at Rage3d, one may imagine they were vast but there was no doubt that AMD would get into the 3d stereo arena because it improves the experience, and nice to see AMD enter the fray; as another example of the industry behind 3d stereo.

It's going to take the prominent players to create awareness and to help shape 3d stereo to evolve and mature so the limitations may be improved upon moving forward.

 

[T2k]

I don't expect a worthwhile answer from you, but I'll try anyways...

Reported for flamebaiting/trolling...

Is AMD just copying this "crappy, old tech" or are they doing it differently with their version of 3D?

Same crappy shit. They cave in until they bring out something better, I hope.
Except, as always, NV's is NOT proprietary - as always, as I said. NVIDIA=locking down, excluding, disabling, AMD=opening, enabling etc.

 

[T2k]

It's funy how people who actually own the product like it...but AMD fanboys don't :sneaky:

It's funny how people who don't have a clue like it but people who make 3D stuff for a living call it a crap...

 

[tviceman]

Reported for flamebaiting/trolling...

I don't think I said anything wrong, but report it twice just to be sure.

 

[SirPauly]

It's funny how people who don't have a clue like it but people who make 3D stuff for a living call it a crap...

You're welcome to your opinion, but the last time I checked, it seems the industry disagrees with you.

 

[taltamir]

NVIDIA=locking down, excluding, disabling, AMD=opening, enabling etc.

AMD (even after ATI purchase) used to be locking down, excluding, and disabling like the rest of them. But in a desperate bid to stem their losses they started opening and enabling to generate positive PR (although, I don't think they invested in it enough to be genuinely trying to make something out of it other then PR). it generally worked to generate PR and has been their policy since, I wonder if they will change their tune (back to locking and excluding) once/if they dominate the market.

However, if enough people make a big deal out of it, we might actually get nvidia to behave nice and both companies to maintain such behavior as an industry standard rather then a transient thing. Fat chance of intel following that creed though.

 

[SirPauly]

The best thing for 3d stereo, for me, is HDMI 1.4a, which creates a standard for everyone for displays.

 

[Seero]

...NVIDIA=locking down, excluding, disabling, AMD=opening, enabling etc.

By open it means they support anything as long as there exists a 3rd party vendor that choose to implement a solution for them. If such solution is broken for whatever reason, it is the 3rd party vendor's fault, not them.

I am open for people who want to do work for me. I feel no shame of taking its credit either, thank me.

http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/amd-hd3d/Pages/hd3d.aspx

The 3rd dimension is here thanks to AMD

AMD HD3D Technology is supported by an advanced and open ecosystem that, in conjunction with specific AMD hardware and software technologies, enables 3D display capabilities for many PC applications and experiences.

Wait a minute. Where is the reference to DDD and IZ3D? You know, the name of the 2 3rd party vendors who created the open ecosystem for 3d. Where is it? It must be at the fineprint.

AMD HD3D technology is enabled on ATI Radeon HD 5000 Series GPUs and above using Catalyst 10.10 or later, however Blu-ray 3D playback is only supported on AMD Radeon HD 6000 series GPUs and above.

What? Those middlewire works on 4xxx cards. Thank you AMD??? What exactly are you supporting?

Shall I choose the company that proprietarize everything they made, or the company that shamelessly takes credit off 3rd party vendors?

 

[busydude]

Shall I choose the company that proprietarize everything they made, or the company that shamelessly takes credit off 3rd party vendors?

Way to spin the facts.. FYI, its called collaboration. HD3D is a product of AMD, and DDD and IZ3D are 3rd party vendors which support this.

Both DDD and IZ3D mention they use AMD's HD3D technology..

http://www.iz3d.com/amd_hd3d/

http://ddd.com/cart/pages.php?pageid=5

 

[Seero]

Way to spin the facts.. FYI, its called collaboration. HD3D is a product of AMD, and DDD and IZ3D are 3rd party vendors which support this.

Both DDD and IZ3D mention they use AMD's HD3D technology..

http://www.iz3d.com/amd_hd3d/

http://ddd.com/cart/pages.php?pageid=5

Interestingly, DDD and IZ3D works on Nvidia video cards and ATI cards long before 10.10 and the so called HD3D technology.

 

[Outrage]

Interestingly, DDD and IZ3D works on Nvidia video cards and ATI cards long before 10.10 and the so called HD3D technology.

Yeah, aint it great. you have a choice. When you invest your money in a open system you can actually use it if you change the gfx card to another vendor.

 

[OCGuy]

More sour grapes in this sub-forum! Funny to see.

Although I have no desire for the 3d gimmick in its current state, it is sad that people will come into a thread and wish for its demise, only because of who is pushing it.

A technology won't advance if there is not a perceived market for the advancements.

 

[SirPauly]

Hehe, in my office here I have a 3d stereo system and when I have some clients, from time-to-time, I show them 3d stereo in World of WarCraft. World of WarCraft has in-game stereo controls and easy to set-up for a nice effect. One of the first questions I ask is the Gimmick question, " Does this look like a gimmick to you!? I've been waiting for one person to say, "yes!"

 

[Lonbjerg]

It's funny how people who don't have a clue like it but people who make 3D stuff for a living call it a crap...

Care to back up that statement?
Just because you say things dosn't mean they are true...at all.

 

[Keysplayr]

Hehe, in my office here I have a 3d stereo system and when I have some clients, from time-to-time, I show them 3d stereo in World of WarCraft. World of WarCraft has in-game stereo controls and easy to set-up for a nice effect. One of the first questions I ask is the Gimmick question, " Does this look like a gimmick to you!? I've been waiting for one person to say, "yes!"

You need a person in your office who doesn't like Nvidia for that. I hope you don't tell them who makes the product before you show it too them.