APOLOGIES to ANANDTECH members for my terrible prediction.

Hugo Drax

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I want to apologize to all Anandtech forum members and shareholders for my terrible inaccurate prediction.

I predict Clinton will be the elected president for 2016.

ALL HAIL Hillary Clinton!!!
 

nickqt

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I want to apologize to all Anandtech forum members and shareholders for my terrible inaccurate prediction.

I predict Clinton will be the elected president for 2016.

ALL HAIL Hillary Clinton!!!

No apology necessary for creating a discussion thread.

You can't leave out the possibility, though, that a brokered convention anoints Bush as the designated tomato can. Especially if it has great plans for Rubio 3.1.4
 

Atreus21

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No apology necessary for creating a discussion thread.

You can't leave out the possibility, though, that a brokered convention anoints Bush as the designated tomato can. Especially if it has great plans for Rubio 3.1.4

3.1.4?
 

compuwiz1

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Trump wins against Hillary. He doesn't win against Bernie. This is what it's down to.
 
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Trump wins against Hillary. He doesn't win against Bernie. This is what it's down to.

He doesn't really win against Clinton either in the overwhelming majority of polls conducted.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
 

JSt0rm

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glenn1

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He doesn't really win against Clinton either in the overwhelming majority of polls conducted.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...s/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

She's not exactly lighting the world on fire either. She seems to elicit the "eat your vegetables" face from many Democrats and will likely struggle in the election against an even semi-credible candidate from the GOP. Admittedly the GOP might not select a semi-credible candidate, but either way it doesn't seem like she'd be the type to bring a lot of coattails to down-ticket candidates even if she wins the general. That's not reason to vote against her, but she might not start off with a lot of political capital if that's the case.

Anyway, this libertarian really has no dog in the fight with pretty much any candidate from either party. All are going to continue the total war against our civil liberties if not look for additional fronts to fight on. No major candidate I'm aware of can even make the simple and obvious decision to oppose the FBI attempt to have Apple hack the iPhone for example.

http://www.thewrap.com/apple-v-the-fbi-where-key-players-fall-in-the-iphone-unlocking-debate/
 

Balt

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Trump wins against Hillary. He doesn't win against Bernie. This is what it's down to.

Nonsense. Trump loses against Hillary, possibly wins against Sanders. Sanders' support is ridiculously overestimated. He's basically the Ron Paul of the Democratic party if Ron Paul had only been running against one other person.
 
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At the time it was a reasonable prediction.

I agree, it was a reasonable prediction. Trump crashed the establishment party though, and blew the Jeb! nomination plans out of the water.

Some people call Trump the "middle-finger" candidate. I can't think of a more deserving group of people to be browbeaten by Trump than our wonderful DC kabuki theater troupe. The Democrats and Republicans can stop pretending to work on our behalf, and we can stop pretending to support them.
 

flexy

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Nonsense. Trump loses against Hillary, possibly wins against Sanders. Sanders' support is ridiculously overestimated. He's basically the Ron Paul of the Democratic party if Ron Paul had only been running against one other person.

Nonsense. No reason to "estimate" here. Numbers clearly show that Sanders has tremendous, *actual* support, even if he might ultimately lose.

I think YOU over-estimate the support Hillary has.
 

flexy

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I agree, it was a reasonable prediction. Trump crashed the establishment party though, and blew the Jeb! nomination plans out of the water.

Some people call Trump the "middle-finger" candidate. I can't think of a more deserving group of people to be browbeaten by Trump than our wonderful DC kabuki theater troupe. The Democrats and Republicans can stop pretending to work on our behalf, and we can stop pretending to support them.

So let's clarify...we have two groups of crooks, liars & assholes, "Republicans" and "Democrats". Check.

Now, bring in a third one, an even BIGGER crook, liar & asshole, fascist w/ a portion of egomaniac and pathological narcissism.... and you think this is the better alternative?

On whose behalf is Trump working? Do you seriously believe he is working on the behalf of "America"?

Giving the finger to the two established parties is all nice and good...but I fear what you'll be getting in return will be worse, MUCH worse.
 

compuwiz1

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So let's clarify...we have two groups of crooks, liars & assholes, "Republicans" and "Democrats". Check.

Now, bring in a third one, an even BIGGER crook, liar & asshole, fascist w/ a portion of egomaniac and pathological narcissism.... and you think this is the better alternative?

On whose behalf is Trump working? Do you seriously believe he is working on the behalf of "America"?

Giving the finger to the two established parties is all nice and good...but I fear what you'll be getting in return will be worse, MUCH worse.

Speculative. You don't know. I don't know, but a chance at something is better than guaranteed status quo. Hillary has declared Republicans as her enemy, early in her her debates. Just how well would you expect her to work with congress? I tell you how....she'll be no better than Obama. What can we expect to get accomplished under those conditions? I have much more confidence in Trump being able to bring everyone to the table and actually take care of business. That's what he does.
 

nickqt

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Speculative. You don't know. I don't know, but a chance at something is better than guaranteed status quo. Hillary has declared Republicans as her enemy, early in her her debates. Just how well would you expect her to work with congress? I tell you how....she'll be no better than Obama. What can we expect to get accomplished under those conditions? I have much more confidence in Trump being able to bring everyone to the table and actually take care of business. That's what he does.

First off, Democrats in Congress compromise. Republicans do not.

Second, if there is a Democrat in the White House, Republicans in Congress will continue doing what they do - nothing, mixed with passing ACA repeal votes.

Third, Trump doesn't take care of business. He sets one up, extracts profits for as long as possible, and then walks away, typically suing another party, or using the bankruptcy courts to separate himself from his failures.

How's Trump's lawsuit against Cruz going so far?
 

brianmanahan

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Hopefully Trump picks a man named Brutus for his VP.

et tu, brute? :D

one of these bad boys is high on my ancient coin bucket list:

EidMarSilverDenarius_Together.jpg
 

sportage

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Sanders is A GOOD MAN, but he can't win.
Goals set too high and too easily attacked by any republican challenger.
Remember, while most of the republican candidates have been attacking Hillary in their spare time outside of attacking each other, very few of the republicans have yet to attack Sanders. Other in generalities i.e. Sanders is a socialist or Sanders promises too much free stuff.
Republicans have yet to bring out the heavy artillery against Sanders.
Hell.... they haven't even called Sanders "THAT JEW" yet to my knowledge.
Or reminded Americans they would be electing a NON CHRISTIAN with electing Sanders.

Hillary has been the target so far because republicans know Hillary will be hard to beat.
Sanders? Pretty damn easy pickings.
And while Sanders can be cranky , he seldom gets down right mad.
If any democrat is to win against a Donald Trump, they will need to adopt gutter politics.
I think Sanders would refuse doing that only to say he ran a clean campaign in the end.
A losing campaign sure, but a clean campaign never the less.

But still too early to tell what is what with either party.
I'm guessing SUPER TUESDAY will be the deciding factor.
After Super Tuesday we'll know if its Hillary or Sanders, and if its Trump or one of the other two.

And take note...
If Cruz can't win in Carolina, Cruz is going to have an extremely hard time in the upcoming states.
So I'd say Cruz is out. One of his friends needs to tell Ted, if Ted had any friends. ;)

Lets face it. It's going to be Trump vs Hillary.
I did not like hearing Sanders concession speech last night because I could too easily imagine that same speech on election night from Sanders mouth after he loses to Donald Trump.
And he will.

Sanders supporters have to make a hard decision.
Are they going to let the Sanders failure turn them off to supporting Hillary?
Will they turn their anger and disappointment against Hillary?
Are Sanders supporters realistic and involved enough to realize what will happen if they do not support Hillary?
Do they realize that guarantees a Donald Trump victory in November?
I just have to ask over and over, do the Sanders supporters really know what they are doing?
Do they know how this works and how this will end up playing out?
Outside of Bernie Sanders, they even care?
Could a Sanders loss piss them off to the extent they would let Donald Trump and the republicans take the presidency?
Do they even have a clue what that would mean to their educational goals, their goals of continued equality, their very future?
Could Sanders supporters not give a damn nor care enough that their dreams would all go to hell?
All just because they did not get their way with Bernie?