AOpen 875P Chipset motherboard $39

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Computer Geeks has the AOpen AX4C-G Intel 875P P4 Socket 478 (Non Prescott) ATX Motherboard with serial ATA, Dual Channel DDR for a low $39, $6 shipping. Tax in CA.


 

VirtualLarry

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Wow, that's "mad cheap" for an real i875 board. Looks like a quality board with some nice OC features as well. Hot Deal!

mfg link / CPU test report / DRAM test report / BIOS update

Some reviews of the AX4C "Max" here, here. The board the CompGeeks is selling is the same layout, except minus the CSA ethernet, Promise SATA RAID, and Agere Firewire. It still appears to have the dual BIOS, "Hercules" PCI slot, and a few other features, from the pics. This board would make this a nearly-perfect rig to use with an OC'ed Celly-D CPU - if an updated BIOS can be found. Btw, since this is the Japanese edition of the product, it is unlikely to be supported in any way by AOpen's US offices.

(Edited and removed extra stuff to improve clarity of thread. Search for updated BIOS underway. Unsure at this point if the board will support Celeron-D CPUs or not.)
 

rmrfhomeoops

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Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Wow, that's "mad cheap" for an real i875 board. Looks like a quality board with some nice OC features as well.

mfg link / CPU test report / DRAM test report / BIOS update

Notice something? Nearly all of the testing dates were from 2003! (That's good, in this case.) And the BIOS version for all of them was 1.00. Interestingly, 1.02 is available, although the release date on that is also late 2003. I'm surprised that this board doesn't claim to support Prescott, but the most common reason for lack of support, is power/heat issues. So this board might support the lower-powered Celeron-D chips... except that nearly all of the boards require recent CPU microcode updates (contained in the BIOS) to support newer Prescott chips, under XP SP2. So if anyone can locate a patched BIOS version for this board, with a newer Intel microcode-update module, please post. That would make this a nearly-perfect rig to use with an OC'ed Celly-D CPU - if an updated BIOS can be found.

Hot deal!

Great price although doesn't have a built-in LAN. If it has a CSA with Intel gigabit built-in NIC, then this would be an awesome board. I might have to pass...
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: gshock888
sorry to be dumb :( but what's an Hercules PCI slot?
I'm only guessing, but ECS has something similar too. It's just extra power supply/power-filtering to that PCI slot, best for higher-powered PCI devices, or ones with sensitive analog components (high-end sound cards, analog video-capture cards, etc.). At least that's what the ECS one is advertised to be for. I'm pretty sure that it's not just for Hercules(tm)-brand video cards, if that's what you were thinking. :)
 

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Motherboard DIY Guide in Japanese
I/O Shield
Serial ATA cable
Easy Installation Guide in Japanese

Notes:
AOpen Model: AX4C-G
P/N: 91.8AU10.002
English Manual on CD
BIOS is in English
Japanese Retail Box

Doesn't say anything about a Japanese BIOS. That's not to say this is not a smokin' price...just be aware.
 

JohnDoh

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Has nothing to do with the chipset not supporting the prescot, there are/were alot of motherboards made before the cpu was released that do not support it and probably a design issue because they dont release bios updates that do support it. Actually most motherboards pre presscot couldnt just have an updated bios to support it.

But yeah this is pretty hot, even though they released a max II version of this board, it still has tons sata and ata ports and has the neat fan control feature of aopen motherboards.
 

C'DaleRider

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Originally posted by: RideFree
Motherboard DIY Guide in Japanese
I/O Shield
Serial ATA cable
Easy Installation Guide in Japanese

Notes:
AOpen Model: AX4C-G
P/N: 91.8AU10.002
English Manual on CD
BIOS is in English
Japanese Retail Box

Doesn't say anything about a Japanese BIOS. That's not to say this is not a smokin' price...just be aware.

It wouldn't say the BIOS is Japanese because, as the Geek's page noted, the BIOS is in ENGLISH, or didn't you read what you cut-n-pasted from there?

 

QTPie

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Their lastest BIOS was released in 8-2003. It probably doesn't support the Prescott.
 

pxc

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Too bad about the lack of Prescott support. But NW P4 1.6A CPUs are pretty cheap used and are very overclockable.
 

RideFree

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Originally posted by: C'DaleRider
It wouldn't say the BIOS is Japanese because, as the Geek's page noted, the BIOS is in ENGLISH, or didn't you read what you cut-n-pasted from there?
See! Just what I said, "A smokin' deal!" :D:D:D
(Unless you can't read Engrish...)

 

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Originally posted by: pxc
Too bad about the lack of Prescott support. But NW P4 1.6A CPUs are pretty cheap used and are very overclockable.

Sure. but they are still slow overclocked. It uses the first generation P4 core which was simply awful. :(
 

pxc

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Originally posted by: Garlic
Sure. but they are still slow overclocked. It uses the first generation P4 core which was simply awful. :(
No. The Northwood core (as in the 1.6A) is still the fastest core clock-for-clock out of all the P4s made (except the older P4 EE ;)).

The original P4 (Willamette) had 256KB L2. The second revision (Northwood) upped the L2 cache to 512KB and made several tweaks to the core. The Prescott and Prescott-2MB were slower clock for clock than Northwood, but reached production speeds higher than the fastest Northwood core CPUs.
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: QTPie
Their lastest BIOS was released in 8-2003. It probably doesn't support the Prescott.
Well, generally, that's a function of the Intel CPU update microcode module in the BIOS (assuming that the CPU VRMs can also handle the load), and there is a 7/2004 BIOS update for their "AX4C Max II" mobo, which has the same chipset. Someone skilled in the art of BIOS-module hacking, should be able to do a transplant. I would, except that I don't own one yet to do any testing, nor do I have a Prescott CPU right now, and I wouldn't want to give someone an untested BIOS to try and end up killing their board. OTOH, this board has dual BIOSes, so the risk of that is fairly low, so this is an ideal "BIOS hacking board".

Either way, it still seems like a decent board if you have any mid-range Northwoods kicking around, memory performance is still a tad better than most i865PE boards with "fake PAT" enabled even. Too bad this board doesn't have the oodles of SATA ports/RAID/Firewire and the CSA ethernet as noted, but that's probably why it's so cheap.
 

TerryMathews

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No CSA LAN is a deal-breaker for me. Can't imagine why anyone would build an i875 mobo without the CSA lan, the expensive half is already instegrated into the i875 chip.