AOC has Covid 19 after a maskless vacation event Florida

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cytg111

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Or the rona. Did a home test that was negative. Supposed to do another one after 36 hours but there are none to be had.
The fever is a killer. Thought it had abated around 3 Sunday morning, after rattling all night like a snare drum on meth. Came back last night for an encore performance.
Yea, gonna call Rona.
 

Moonbeam

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Could be. I've had it once already, and been vaccinated, so flu seems more likely.
Hope whatever it is it passes soon. There is something archetypal about AOC and INCELs it seems to me. Looking at myself it feels like an issue of fear os sexual inferiority. First off there’s the physical attractiveness which fires lust, then there’s status such a conquest would represent. Add to that the titillation to be had dominating ideologically, but here only for guys on the right, in the form of an imaginary conquest where your natural political repugnance to her would be overcome by her moaning and thrashing body in the throws of orgasm.

How did I do… little old self hating me dreaming about being the god of sexuality.
 

DisarmedDespot

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That may be. My problem is with my assumptions. I can’t imagine somebody with that important a job and with such important responsibilities being that stupid. And additionally, I doesn’t even know if I have all the facts to even warrant that suspicion. I just know a shit storm was generated.
In a parallel universe, is there a Moonbeam starting a thread about AOC getting sick thirteen days after a masked event, annoyed she made masks look pointless?
In another parallel universe, is there a Moonbeam starting a thread about AOC getting sick thirteen days after skipping an event entirely, annoyed she made herself look like a coward?
 

cytg111

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Could be that new Flurona combo that’s going around. That one seems to have symptoms of recurring high fevers that come and go.
You heard about the omidelta or tf they called it? I have agreed with myself to ignore it and itll go away
 
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fskimospy

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In a parallel universe, is there a Moonbeam starting a thread about AOC getting sick thirteen days after a masked event, annoyed she made masks look pointless?
In another parallel universe, is there a Moonbeam starting a thread about AOC getting sick thirteen days after skipping an event entirely, annoyed she made herself look like a coward?
The whole thread is stupid concern trolling.

COVID does not spread well outdoors and this is well documented. The idea that being at an outdoor event maskless is somehow seriously irresponsible is just stupid. The timetable also suggests her infection had nothing to do with it.
 

purbeast0

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Or the rona. Did a home test that was negative. Supposed to do another one after 36 hours but there are none to be had.
The fever is a killer. Thought it had abated around 3 Sunday morning, after rattling all night like a snare drum on meth. Came back last night for an encore performance.
The 2 at home tests I took, 24 hours apart, both reported negative results. And I took the first one about 24 hours after starting to feel symptoms.

Then 2 days after that, after finally finding a place to get tested, both an AG and PCR came back positive and my symptoms had already started going down at that point.

My 16 month old tested positive 3 days after a fever he had for 24 hours had completely gone away.
 
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Bitek

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It's not like she made a real mistake, rather it is a public image mistake. Thing is... she is young and likely cannot imagine all the ways her opponents will view her. Even an older and experienced "super predator" like Hillary Clinton couldn't quite read the tea leaves. Which is certainly not just a Democrat problem.

I have not lived through much of a lockdown or restricted life style these past two years. I do not truly know what life is like in those big blue cities or states. I imagine, but I cannot know. Have Democrat policies against COVID enraged and angered masses of people? Is the leadership flaunting the rules a grievous error?

Perhaps this topic should not be about AOC, but in how the policy they cannot consistently follow is actually terrible in-itself. Perhaps it never should have been pursued with such zeal if one can simply disregard it to go on vacation with the comforts of a Republican-lead restriction free paradise. If they cannot follow the rules, perhaps the rules were a mistake and we should ponder a topic of how harmful the crusade against COVID was for the next election. If they really did make peoples lives hell and breed resentment.

Wonder where a poll would place the general public on such issues.

I haven't followed her statements on covid in particular, but I do think this is the danger when Ds get too terrified and self righteous about covid mitigations, particularly masks when they are so ineffectual.

We have to learn to live with this. That means being pragmatic and balanced. Fine, mask up when there is a severe outbreak and you are going somewhere dodgy and may not have good ventilation. Masks not needed when rates are low, or you have immunity (vaccination or previous infection, etc) or if the venue is low risk.

She should have leaned into that rather than the weird dating statement.
 

fskimospy

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I haven't followed her statements on covid in particular, but I do think this is the danger when Ds get too terrified and self righteous about covid mitigations, particularly masks when they are so ineffectual.

We have to learn to live with this. That means being pragmatic and balanced. Fine, mask up when there is a severe outbreak and you are going somewhere dodgy and may not have good ventilation. Masks not needed when rates are low, or you have immunity (vaccination or previous infection, etc) or if the venue is low risk.

She should have leaned into that rather than the weird dating statement.

While I agree that sort of messaging is long term better for Democrats as it's probably popular and also has the virtue of being true, the whole thing about 'catching' her maskless having lunch with her boyfriend is bad faith, dishonest bullshit and she was right to call it out as such.
 
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Bitek

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While I agree that sort of messaging is long term better for Democrats as it's probably popular and also has the virtue of being true, the whole thing about 'catching' her maskless having lunch with her boyfriend is bad faith, dishonest bullshit and she was right to call it out as such.

It is, and she needs to flip it around.

It's a trap Rs want Ds to fall into, which is always pushing the strictest measures. They love nothing more than trying to paint Ds add the pussy party who hates the economy.
This is just the latest episode.
 

hal2kilo

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The whole thread is stupid concern trolling.

COVID does not spread well outdoors and this is well documented. The idea that being at an outdoor event maskless is somehow seriously irresponsible is just stupid. The timetable also suggests her infection had nothing to do with it.
Also, you can go maskless outside in NY. Who would have thought?
 

MichaelMay

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Suppose I might feel differently if I lived in a State where they took things more seriously and employed some sort of mask or vaccine Nazism. If my experience was "papers please" and then a Democrat goes and flagrantly flaunts the rules....

And Florida of all places... suggesting Republican policy is favored among Democrats.

I suppose that is a PR issue.

What the fuck is wrong with you? Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with your brain?
 
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While I agree that sort of messaging is long term better for Democrats as it's probably popular and also has the virtue of being true, the whole thing about 'catching' her maskless having lunch with her boyfriend is bad faith, dishonest bullshit and she was right to call it out as such.


I'm thinking the problem with AOC contracting Covid is not so much that she got "caught" and whatever nonsense that followed. Moreso, she gave the Repubs an golden opportunity to attack her and through her the Dem party in general. The Repubs are desperate to berate and demonize the Dems at every turn because they don't have an ideological motive nor any impetus to pass legislation that would dare to look similar to or better than the legislation the Dems are pushing, given how they've entrenched themselves into a state of total opposition.

In that respect maybe AOC should have been more concerned about how the Repubs are closely following her whereabouts in order to destroy her creds and with it her seat at the table. She is after all at the top of the Repub's threat hit list seeing as if they realize what a convenient target she is being a minority female with a sharp mind and the skillful wherewithal to call out the Repubs for what they are and whose interests their leadership actually represent.
 

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I'm thinking the problem with AOC contracting Covid is not so much that she got "caught" and whatever nonsense that followed. Moreso, she gave the Repubs an golden opportunity to attack her and through her the Dem party in general. The Repubs are desperate to berate and demonize the Dems at every turn because they don't have an ideological motive nor any impetus to pass legislation that would dare to look similar to or better than the legislation the Dems are pushing, given how they've entrenched themselves into a state of total opposition.

In that respect maybe AOC should have been more concerned about how the Repubs are closely following her whereabouts in order to destroy her creds and with it her seat at the table. She is after all at the top of the Repub's threat hit list seeing as if they realize what a convenient target she is being a minority female with a sharp mind and the skillful wherewithal to call out the Repubs for what they are and whose interests their leadership actually represent.

GOP entire platform is Victim Card, shitpost and whutabout everything. They have no policy. It's just trolling and projection.
 

fskimospy

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Suppose I might feel differently if I lived in a State where they took things more seriously and employed some sort of mask or vaccine Nazism. If my experience was "papers please" and then a Democrat goes and flagrantly flaunts the rules....

And Florida of all places... suggesting Republican policy is favored among Democrats.

I suppose that is a PR issue.
You realize everything she was 'caught' doing is 100% legal to do in NYC, right?
 
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fskimospy

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I'm thinking the problem with AOC contracting Covid is not so much that she got "caught" and whatever nonsense that followed. Moreso, she gave the Repubs an golden opportunity to attack her and through her the Dem party in general. The Repubs are desperate to berate and demonize the Dems at every turn because they don't have an ideological motive nor any impetus to pass legislation that would dare to look similar to or better than the legislation the Dems are pushing, given how they've entrenched themselves into a state of total opposition.

In that respect maybe AOC should have been more concerned about how the Repubs are closely following her whereabouts in order to destroy her creds and with it her seat at the table. She is after all at the top of the Repub's threat hit list seeing as if they realize what a convenient target she is being a minority female with a sharp mind and the skillful wherewithal to call out the Repubs for what they are and whose interests their leadership actually represent.
I don't think there's any point because this controversy means nothing. It's red meat for the right wing base and it's not like they were going to vote for her anyway. As far as her being on the top of their hit list that doesn't really matter either as she's completely immune to any of their attacks in an electoral sense.
 

trenchfoot

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I don't think there's any point because this controversy means nothing. It's red meat for the right wing base and it's not like they were going to vote for her anyway. As far as her being on the top of their hit list that doesn't really matter either as she's completely immune to any of their attacks in an electoral sense.

Agreed. More rabble rousing nonsense for the Repub leadership to rile up their base with. They already gave up their standard bearing ideological myths about being the party of personal responsibility, family values and heh, fiscal conservancy the day they put Trump on a high pedestal so it's down to digging dirt hoping to find nuggets of bullshit to fling at the Dems.
 
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What the fuck is wrong with you? Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with your brain?

Obviously socialists like AOC should be heading to a blue state like Cuba to soak in some sun and be amongst their “comrades”.
 

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This thread has been interesting to me and I appreciate the many different perspectives. Thinking about why I may have more concern for how conservatives treat liberals than many here do it may relate to my own personal life circumstance. From the age of about 10, having grown up basically wild at that point, my circumstances changed. I started a new life in a conservative Republican household, people tough and hardened by poverty in their past but now middle class. I, of course, while loved and taken good care of, was basically seen to be some sort of abnormal freak, uninterested in all of the kinds of things they were and visa versa, especially. I became extremely adapt, I think, at understanding how not to make waves and the wisdom of doing just that. On the one hand they can cause you great pain, on the other you can do the same to them and that latter part presented a moral problem. I am not especially enraptured by people who like to hurt others but, owing to the honesty thingi my Mother created in me, I was fully aware of the wish to do so. Naturally, none of this was quite so consciously known to me then as I here express. Perhaps the sense of moral responsibility (like to party) and the application skills that I have to not present a target, I shouldn't expect from other people who have not had that kind of experience. And AOC may not be as aware as I am of just how deeply some people can hate.

In that regard one Sufi saying I ran into has special appeal to me. If you try to pleas others, somebody will be offended. If you try to please yourself somebody will be offended. Then the question was, "Which is it going to be?" Boy, that's a tough one, right? When my Mother from the age of ten died she was a big wig in the local Republican Women's club and at a function to honor her death I spoke to eulogize her as her son. I told them to hoots and boos that I am a liberal Democrat and my mother was the best kind of Republican there is because she did loved me regardless of that fact. If I could live my life over I'm not sure I would ever want to change anything.
 

MichaelMay

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Obviously socialists like AOC should be heading to a blue state like Cuba to soak in some sun and be amongst their “comrades”.

I specifically meant the bolded part about "mask or vaccine Nazism".

He's clearly completely fucked in the skull... Long Covid brain damage?