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ImpulsE69

Lifer
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Oh I'm sorry was I supposed to get your sarcasm from reading a post? Silly me/s

Notice how you haven't addressed a single point made?

Even when given evidence that contradicts your feelings you ignore them. I wonder why.

Your reading comprehension is worse than I thought.
 

Maxima1

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You should probably just keep out of the conversation as we are discussing tax credits and not EBT.

As to why the poor have more children there are many factors and I highly doubt tax credits are the reason. Things like teenage pregnancies, no or limited access to birth control, more unprotected sex, low access to abortion, etc all contribute to higher pregnancy rates.

EBT is relevant. If we're providing for the child's basic needs already, that frees up more money for spending on whatever the parents want if the child tax credit is increased.

I just find it really strange to specifically target this set of people when there would still be a large underclass of people who don't share in the transfers. See these two graphs, for example. The economy has been really bad for a lot of 20-somethings. A lot of people wouldn't be able to get relief at all.

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For the US, this already isn't a problem. Nothing like Japan. And sometimes it's necessary as was the case with China. But we could and should take more immigrants. It's more efficient than trying to modestly increase birth rates here.
 

ImpulsE69

Lifer
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I didn't address his bloomberg link ^^ because I had already addressed the topic in an earlier post. I don't see it as a 'omg' issue. I see it as necessary. It is no different than a business that over expands and has to cut back. I didn't say it would be pleasant, but if we want to talk about the viability of the human race, 'growth' is always going to be an issue at a certain point. I wonder if mother nature takes American Express.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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EBT is relevant. If we're providing for the child's basic needs already, that frees up more money for spending on whatever the parents want if the child tax credit is increased.

I just find it really strange to specifically target this set of people when there would still be a large underclass of people who don't share in the transfers. See these two graphs, for example. The economy has been really bad for a lot of 20-somethings. A lot of people wouldn't be able to get relief at all.

CZ7BKRGJQVARDOMZIA6XWUI5OY.png


es_20180110_chetty9.png





For the US, this already isn't a problem. Nothing like Japan. And sometimes it's necessary as was the case with China. But we could and should take more immigrants. It's more efficient than trying to modestly increase birth rates here.

EBT is for those in need who would otherwise struggle to afford food for their family.

What we were discussing was funding specifically to help with raising a child, regardless of need (although I could see the argument for and against income based caps).
 

ImpulsE69

Lifer
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EBT is for those in need who would otherwise struggle to afford food for their family.

What we were discussing was funding specifically to help with raising a child, regardless of need (although I could see the argument for and against income based caps).

This is the thing, I don't think we are that far off in opinion on this based on what you state here. I think we just disagree on what the catalyst should be.