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Anyway to convince a couple friends to stop taking marjiuana?
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<< tweak, they already smoke it, thats why i'm trying to get them to quit, i have seen what it can do to people, its not a pretty sight. >>
what has it done to them? And the only reason that I was refering to the future is that in your first post you tell them that pot will "harm you in the long run"
Ns1
No Lifer
<< << tweak, they already smoke it, thats why i'm trying to get them to quit, i have seen what it can do to people, its not a pretty sight. >>
examples?
>>
whooooooooooa baby, STOP!~ you never said anything about tweak!! you just said weed!!! if they're smoking tweak then i agree they have a problem, the only thing that'll stop them is getting busted, and even then that's not a guarantee
tweak IS physically addictive; they'll start to get mood swings, aggressive, twitching, all sorts of nasty stuff
hey i have no problems with smoking the dank, but tweak is a big nono
<< Err..what has pot done to people? Usually people are messed up on coke, E, meth etc. >>
man when has soembody on E given you anything other than a hug?
<< whooooooooooa baby, STOP!~ you never said anything about tweak!! you just said weed!!! if they're smoking tweak then i agree they have a problem, the only thing that'll stop them is getting busted, and even then that's not a guarantee
tweak IS physically addictive; they'll start to get mood swings, aggressive, twitching, all sorts of nasty stuff
hey i have no problems with smoking the dank, but tweak is a big nono >>
lol, he was addressing me
Gonad the Barbarian
Lifer
<< tweak, they already smoke it, thats why i'm trying to get them to quit, i have seen what it can do to people, its not a pretty sight. >>
I'm guessing you are all of about 15 years old so I doubt you've seen much. Next time they light up, I suggest you take a hit, really see for yourself how bad & evil weed is. You'll probably want them to keep smoking it so you can mooch.
<< Marijuana is not a drug. I used to suck dick for coke. Now that's an addiction. You ever suck some dick for marijuana? >>
Thanks for proving my point about it making people stupid. 🙂
<< tweak IS physically addictive >>
As is marijuana. Just ask BigFatCow what happens when he stops smoking it.
sandorski
No Lifer
There isn't much you can do. If you notice them slacking off, school work, job/career, and/or family/friend relationships then pointing that out may sway them. Otherwise they'll probably be the same people you already knew/know, except that they smoke pot. Sometimes it's not the user who changes, but the perception of the non-user that changes.
hungrygoose
Senior member
pot is a lot like a gun...........pot doesn't ruin lives or kill people, stupid ppl. with pot ruin their lives......it all depends on the person.....if ur responsible about it, you won't have any problems at all.....i smoke up about 2-3 times a week......i live with my girlfriend of over 3 years.....i have a good job.......lots of friends......and i'm only 21......so if you think it ruins lives.......ur uneducated.....until u try it, u have no frame of reference.....i also do acid about once a month if i can find some.......it just depends on the person
ChurchOfSubgenius
Platinum Member
For those who don't know what KB is:
It stands for kine bud. It is very very dank. Around here is sells for 20 a gram or 60 a eight(ounce)
to put it into perspective, a dime bag is ~ 2.3 grams
ROFL, KB stands for "Kind Bud" because it's kind to your mind and originated by the Greatful Dead in the 80's, and an "eight" is an 1/8th of an ounce and a dime bag means $10 worth of whatever happens to be in the bag.
Yes, I am old, wise and currently not smoking pot but I did for ten years straight every damn day, all i've really noticed (not to minimize it) is a lack of short term memory that I didn't have when I was younger, but that could be from the LSD, PCP(called crystal T back then), mushrooms (used to live in CO), Extasy or cocaine and miriad of other junk that was floating around.
Just to let you know, I am not a crusty old longhaired freak staring into a nicotine stained CRT in a dark room, I am a sucessfull automotive designer in the Detroit area with a wife and two kids (staring into a CRT in a dark room)
It stands for kine bud. It is very very dank. Around here is sells for 20 a gram or 60 a eight(ounce)
to put it into perspective, a dime bag is ~ 2.3 grams
ROFL, KB stands for "Kind Bud" because it's kind to your mind and originated by the Greatful Dead in the 80's, and an "eight" is an 1/8th of an ounce and a dime bag means $10 worth of whatever happens to be in the bag.
Yes, I am old, wise and currently not smoking pot but I did for ten years straight every damn day, all i've really noticed (not to minimize it) is a lack of short term memory that I didn't have when I was younger, but that could be from the LSD, PCP(called crystal T back then), mushrooms (used to live in CO), Extasy or cocaine and miriad of other junk that was floating around.
Just to let you know, I am not a crusty old longhaired freak staring into a nicotine stained CRT in a dark room, I am a sucessfull automotive designer in the Detroit area with a wife and two kids (staring into a CRT in a dark room)
Thump553
Lifer
I went to college thirty years ago. The same tired old anti- & pro-pot arguments (especially the anti-pot arguments) were being made then.
I'm not much of a conspiracy buff, but I think any objective person who steps back and looks at the big picture will see that there is an enormous segment of our society that makes their living off the "drug war
" and has a deeply vested interest in continuing it. For example, take an afternoon off and go to your local criminal court and see how many of the cases are drug related, and especially how many are simple possession cases.
I know dozens and dozens of people who were heavy pot/hash consumers who have stopped, or any only sporadic now, and hold legitamite professional positions. I also know people with unhealthy obessive behaviors centered on computer chatrooms or games (Everquest, anyone?). Excluding truly addictive drugs (like opiates) to a large extent, addictive behavior is very much dependent upon the individual's makeup.
What is the result of the drug war? Kids unable to get college scholarships and loan money because they were unlucky enough to get caught. There is a huge underground and untaxed segment of our economy-note the pot prices set forth above. In the early seventies pot was $15 for a full ounce, rising to $20 by the mid seventies.
I am not saying drug use (especially including alcohol) is advisable or desirable. I'm saying that much of the conventional "thought" on the subject is misguided and lacks critical analysis. And to the original poster, I'm saying enjoy the "non-drug" aspect of your friends and continue the friendships even if you don't see eye to eye with their marajuana usage-so long as it doesn't impose upon you (like a roommate possessing, smoking at your place/car, etc).
I'm not much of a conspiracy buff, but I think any objective person who steps back and looks at the big picture will see that there is an enormous segment of our society that makes their living off the "drug war
" and has a deeply vested interest in continuing it. For example, take an afternoon off and go to your local criminal court and see how many of the cases are drug related, and especially how many are simple possession cases.
I know dozens and dozens of people who were heavy pot/hash consumers who have stopped, or any only sporadic now, and hold legitamite professional positions. I also know people with unhealthy obessive behaviors centered on computer chatrooms or games (Everquest, anyone?). Excluding truly addictive drugs (like opiates) to a large extent, addictive behavior is very much dependent upon the individual's makeup.
What is the result of the drug war? Kids unable to get college scholarships and loan money because they were unlucky enough to get caught. There is a huge underground and untaxed segment of our economy-note the pot prices set forth above. In the early seventies pot was $15 for a full ounce, rising to $20 by the mid seventies.
I am not saying drug use (especially including alcohol) is advisable or desirable. I'm saying that much of the conventional "thought" on the subject is misguided and lacks critical analysis. And to the original poster, I'm saying enjoy the "non-drug" aspect of your friends and continue the friendships even if you don't see eye to eye with their marajuana usage-so long as it doesn't impose upon you (like a roommate possessing, smoking at your place/car, etc).
ChurchOfSubgenius
Platinum Member
Not going to C&P all of Thump's post but goddam!, that was a great well thought out statement that deserves recognition. Nice work 🙂
killface
Golden Member
<< For those who don't know what KB is:
It stands for kine bud. >>
Stands for Kind Bud here, and most other places I've been (unless it was just a typo).
<< one of them is dooing acid and shroomz >>
Your friends are probably having alot more fun than you are. Loosen up up man.
LordMaul
Lifer
<< there's no real reason to not enjoy some mary jane every now and then. >>
Did you ever stop to think that MAYBE IT IS ILLEGAL?
Oh, in YOUR OPINION, you think it SHOULD be legal, so that makes it PERFECTLY right, huh?
Bunch of stupid kids. Most of you are probably 15-16 years old, maybe a little older, who think lighting up and getting high is a good way to calm yourself, or end a day, or whatever excuses you come up with. Then you tell other people that it is YOUR life, and don't interfere. BULLSHlT!
You won't listen to anyone who might have some information about bad side effects, because you already have your mind made up that, "it's good, I like it, it won't hurt me", blah blah blah.
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that sucking hot smoke from a burning piece of paper stuffed with weed into your lungs is going to cause some damage. Tabacco, too...I'm not one of those who says, "Don't do weed/coke/misc. drug!" and go light up a cig.
Brainwashed, you say? Hardly. Informed? Yep.
Can you live without drugs(illegal)? Yes. Is it possible to get addicted to some drugs? Yes. Do drugs end up costing you a lot of $$$ which you could put to better use? Yes. Are drugs illegal for a reason? Yes. Should drugs STAY illegal? Yes.
If you don't answer "yes" to all of the above, you need some help.
Ns1
No Lifer
OMG SMOKING POT IS ILLEGAL!?!?!!? THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!
<< Bunch of stupid kids. Most of you are probably 15-16 years old, maybe a little older, who think lighting up and getting high is a good way to calm yourself, or end a day, or whatever excuses you come up with. Then you tell other people that it is YOUR life, and don't interfere. BULLSHlT! >>
riiiiiiight, so we really can't do what we want with our lives? man, in that case i wish i was never born!
<< You won't listen to anyone who might have some information about bad side effects, because you already have your mind made up that, "it's good, I like it, it won't hurt me", blah blah blah.
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that sucking hot smoke from a burning piece of paper stuffed with weed into your lungs is going to cause some damage. Tabacco, too...I'm not one of those who says, "Don't do weed/coke/misc. drug!" and go light up a cig. >>
did we ever say it won't hurt us? no, we full well know the nasty side effects, and we're willing to take the risks; every person that smokes knows that they're messing up their lungs
<< Can you live without drugs(illegal)? Yes. Is it possible to get addicted to some drugs? Yes. Do drugs end up costing you a lot of $$$ which you could put to better use? Yes. Are drugs illegal for a reason? Yes. Should drugs STAY illegal? Yes. >>
can i llive w/o drugs - yes
is it possible to get addicted to some drugs - yes
Do drugs end up costing you a lot of $$$ which you could put to better use- like what? smoking pot is recreation, and *gasp* recreation costs money!!~ maybe i should go out there and buy a 12pack instead
are drugs illegal for a reason- that's a different argument
should drugs stay legal- that's a different argument
Thump553- nice post ^_^
<< Bunch of stupid kids. Most of you are probably 15-16 years old, maybe a little older, who think lighting up and getting high is a good way to calm yourself, or end a day, or whatever excuses you come up with. Then you tell other people that it is YOUR life, and don't interfere. BULLSHlT! >>
riiiiiiight, so we really can't do what we want with our lives? man, in that case i wish i was never born!
<< You won't listen to anyone who might have some information about bad side effects, because you already have your mind made up that, "it's good, I like it, it won't hurt me", blah blah blah.
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that sucking hot smoke from a burning piece of paper stuffed with weed into your lungs is going to cause some damage. Tabacco, too...I'm not one of those who says, "Don't do weed/coke/misc. drug!" and go light up a cig. >>
did we ever say it won't hurt us? no, we full well know the nasty side effects, and we're willing to take the risks; every person that smokes knows that they're messing up their lungs
<< Can you live without drugs(illegal)? Yes. Is it possible to get addicted to some drugs? Yes. Do drugs end up costing you a lot of $$$ which you could put to better use? Yes. Are drugs illegal for a reason? Yes. Should drugs STAY illegal? Yes. >>
can i llive w/o drugs - yes
is it possible to get addicted to some drugs - yes
Do drugs end up costing you a lot of $$$ which you could put to better use- like what? smoking pot is recreation, and *gasp* recreation costs money!!~ maybe i should go out there and buy a 12pack instead
are drugs illegal for a reason- that's a different argument
should drugs stay legal- that's a different argument
Thump553- nice post ^_^
docmanhattan
Golden Member
Watching people rationalize pot smoking is more fun than watching stoned people. Unless of course it's stoned people rationalizing pot smoking. 😉
LordMaul
Lifer
<< riiiiiiight, so we really can't do what we want with our lives? man, in that case i wish i was never born! >>
You're telling me you'd rather not live than to not have drugs?
<< did we ever say it won't hurt us? no, we full well know the nasty side effects, and we're willing to take the risks; every person that smokes knows that they're messing up their lungs >>
Willing to take the risks? Know you're fscking up your lungs? Frying brain cells?
And you think I am going to SUPPORT this?!!?!😕
<< Do drugs end up costing you a lot of $$$ which you could put to better use- like what? smoking pot is recreation, and *gasp* recreation costs money!!~ maybe i should go out there and buy a 12pack instead >>
Drinking alchohol will not fry your brain(unless you are some alcoholic), it will not burn your lungs, you will not hurt others from secondary smoke(remote, but of course possible), you won't become an alcoholic if you drink a beer or two or so a week, etc.
I suppose things in moderation is the way to go, but smoking ANYTHING will STILL cause more side effects than drinking any kind of beverage.
Ns1
No Lifer
re ^^
what do you care what i do with my life? what do you care if i want to smoke? what does it matter to you? if i'm at home smoking it doesn't affect anybody but me, so why do you care?
LMAO re: the beer
How often do you hear of others getting killed my drunken drivers? how often do you hear of barfights breaking out? how often do DRUNK people do stupid things?
People stoned just sit around lazily and laugh at stuff, they are NOT a danger to anybody
DRUNK people on the other hand....
and alky fuxors with your liver
i'd much rather be around stoned people than drunk people
alcohol - negatives
NEGATIVE
decreased coordination
nausea, vomiting (vomiting while unconscious can kill)
reduced impulse control
emotional volatility (anger, violence, sadness, etc)
frequent urination (more with beer or wine), diuretic effect
dizziness and confusion
blackouts and memory loss at high doses
coma and death at extreme doses
brain and liver damage (cirrhosis) with heavy use
lowered inhibitions and increased confusion can lead to unwanted and negative sexual encounters (date rape)
hangover, lasting 12-36 hours, from mild to severe after heavy use
fetus damage in pregnant women at high dose or frequency
marijuana- negatives
nausea
coughing, asthma, upper respiratory problems
difficulty with short term memory during effects and during periods of frequent use
racing heart, agitation,tenseness
mild to severe anxiety
panic attacks at very high doses (usually oral) or in sensitive users
headaches
dizziness, confusion
paranoid & anxious thoughts more frequent
possible psychological dependence on cannabis
"mild" withdrawal symptoms occur after daily use in some users. These may last for 1-6 weeks after cessation of use and can include anxiety, anhedonia (reduced experience of pleasure), headaches, general unease/discomfort, difficulty sleeping, and a desire to smoke pot.
what do you care what i do with my life? what do you care if i want to smoke? what does it matter to you? if i'm at home smoking it doesn't affect anybody but me, so why do you care?
LMAO re: the beer
How often do you hear of others getting killed my drunken drivers? how often do you hear of barfights breaking out? how often do DRUNK people do stupid things?
People stoned just sit around lazily and laugh at stuff, they are NOT a danger to anybody
DRUNK people on the other hand....
and alky fuxors with your liver
i'd much rather be around stoned people than drunk people
alcohol - negatives
NEGATIVE
decreased coordination
nausea, vomiting (vomiting while unconscious can kill)
reduced impulse control
emotional volatility (anger, violence, sadness, etc)
frequent urination (more with beer or wine), diuretic effect
dizziness and confusion
blackouts and memory loss at high doses
coma and death at extreme doses
brain and liver damage (cirrhosis) with heavy use
lowered inhibitions and increased confusion can lead to unwanted and negative sexual encounters (date rape)
hangover, lasting 12-36 hours, from mild to severe after heavy use
fetus damage in pregnant women at high dose or frequency
marijuana- negatives
nausea
coughing, asthma, upper respiratory problems
difficulty with short term memory during effects and during periods of frequent use
racing heart, agitation,tenseness
mild to severe anxiety
panic attacks at very high doses (usually oral) or in sensitive users
headaches
dizziness, confusion
paranoid & anxious thoughts more frequent
possible psychological dependence on cannabis
"mild" withdrawal symptoms occur after daily use in some users. These may last for 1-6 weeks after cessation of use and can include anxiety, anhedonia (reduced experience of pleasure), headaches, general unease/discomfort, difficulty sleeping, and a desire to smoke pot.
docmanhattan
Golden Member
<< re ^^
what do you care what i do with my life? what do you care if i want to smoke? what does it matter to you? if i'm at home smoking it doesn't affect anybody but me, so why do you care?
>>
Does pot smoking cause paranoia?
BTW:
You forgot one on the negative list for pot:
<< marijuana- negatives
nausea
coughing, asthma, upper respiratory problems
difficulty with short term memory during effects and during periods of frequent use
racing heart, agitation,tenseness
mild to severe anxiety
panic attacks at very high doses (usually oral) or in sensitive users
headaches
dizziness, confusion
paranoid & anxious thoughts more frequent
possible psychological dependence on cannabis
"mild" withdrawal symptoms occur after daily use in some users. These may last for 1-6 weeks after cessation of use and can include anxiety, anhedonia (reduced experience of pleasure), headaches, general unease/discomfort, difficulty sleeping, and a desire to smoke pot.
>>
***OFFICIAL*** --------------> ILLEGAL <---------------------***CONFIRMED***
<<
ROFL, KB stands for "Kind Bud" because it's kind to your mind and originated by the Greatful Dead in the 80's,
>>
KB has been around alot longer my friend and when it wasn't called KB, I've always heard people say kine bud
<<
and an "eight" is an 1/8th of an ounce and a dime bag means $10 worth of whatever happens to be in the bag.
>>
not around here, a dime bag is a unit of measurement, there are 5 dimes in a half ounce and 10 in an ounce
and when I said eight(ounce) I was trying to say 1/8 ounce
<< Are drugs illegal for a reason? Yes. Should drugs STAY illegal? Yes. >>
Quick FYI, pot was made illegal not because it's so "evil" but because it was seen as an economic threat to the tobacco and cotton industries.
Not all laws are just or sensible, you shouldn't just follow them blindly.
Basically, if someone is willing to accept the health and legal risks, no matter how great or small, you really should stay out of it unless they are somehow affecting you.
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