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bas1c

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You're still in school, huh? Have you had an on-site interview with Intel? Do you have an offer in hand? I'm guessing affirmative on the first and negative on the latter two.

It doesn't work that way. You don't show up to work for X number of years and then end up at pay grade Y.

You start off in a pay grade that's sort of determined by your education and/or experience. You then kiss the ass of the managers and cut the throats of your peers while trying to dodge blades that are aimed for you. The most technically inept tend to be best at this game. Depending on how skillful you are at this game will determine how long (if ever) it takes you to get to grade Y.

This game is not strictly limited to Intel, but Intel tends to actually promote it as if it were something to be proud of (other places at least try to cover it up).


A friend of mine was brought in on an on-site group interview as a newly PhD'ed ChemE. I think it was a process engineering position in dry etch. Later in the day, she was separated from the group and they offered her a job right then and there. They told her straight-up that she'd be tied to a tool. If that tool were to go down at any time, weekends and nights included, she'd be expected to be there with the tool until it came up again. She declined that offer... right then and there.

I did a summer gig in Aloha with a product engineering group. The first day, they handed me a process bible chained to an enormous slab of orange plastic. They told me that if I tried to copy it in the Xerox, they'd be notified. If I left it unattended and unlocked, I'd be in trouble for that too.

That process bible was one of the best reads of my life. :D

The summer was all right, but I had gotten a taste of the horrible and I had no intentions of returning. I'd worked at 4 other CMOS fabs during 4 years of undergrad, and I'd been making transistors for two years as a grad student before Intel. Intel didn't suck as much as Motorola, but it sucked for a different reason.

Despite this, when I was about to complete my PhD, one of my former classmates swore up and down that it was great and he wanted me to at least come to an interview. This was for process development; the cool stuff; developing two generations ahead of what they're selling right now kind of stuff.

It still sucked. I walked out of the interview halfway through the day.

Lunch was pretty good; some kind of local bar and grill. I had a burger.



I suggested earlier... maybe don't worry so much about the pay until you actually interview and have an offer in hand.

Or maybe...the more socially inept are unable to play any game.
 

JTsyo

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heh, reading fail at ATOT. OP asks for experience range, everyone answers with a dollar amount.
 
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Nope, not in school offered pay grade level 6 I have 6 years experience. Offer is 80k tried negotiating 7 with no success,heard the real money is at level 7 and up also heard it is hard to get promoted there. Yes, I realize it is based on individual situation and talent but it is a very big company and I don't want to be just a number.
I'm I right is 7 the start of better bonuses, pay etc.?
 
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SamurAchzar

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You're still in school, huh? Have you had an on-site interview with Intel? Do you have an offer in hand? I'm guessing affirmative on the first and negative on the latter two.

It doesn't work that way. You don't show up to work for X number of years and then end up at pay grade Y.

You start off in a pay grade that's sort of determined by your education and/or experience. You then kiss the ass of the managers and cut the throats of your peers while trying to dodge blades that are aimed for you. The most technically inept tend to be best at this game. Depending on how skillful you are at this game will determine how long (if ever) it takes you to get to grade Y.

This game is not strictly limited to Intel, but Intel tends to actually promote it as if it were something to be proud of (other places at least try to cover it up).


A friend of mine was brought in on an on-site group interview as a newly PhD'ed ChemE. I think it was a process engineering position in dry etch. Later in the day, she was separated from the group and they offered her a job right then and there. They told her straight-up that she'd be tied to a tool. If that tool were to go down at any time, weekends and nights included, she'd be expected to be there with the tool until it came up again. She declined that offer... right then and there.

I did a summer gig in Aloha with a product engineering group. The first day, they handed me a process bible chained to an enormous slab of orange plastic. They told me that if I tried to copy it in the Xerox, they'd be notified. If I left it unattended and unlocked, I'd be in trouble for that too.

That process bible was one of the best reads of my life. :D

The summer was all right, but I had gotten a taste of the horrible and I had no intentions of returning. I'd worked at 4 other CMOS fabs during 4 years of undergrad, and I'd been making transistors for two years as a grad student before Intel. Intel didn't suck as much as Motorola, but it sucked for a different reason.

Despite this, when I was about to complete my PhD, one of my former classmates swore up and down that it was great and he wanted me to at least come to an interview. This was for process development; the cool stuff; developing two generations ahead of what they're selling right now kind of stuff.

It still sucked. I walked out of the interview halfway through the day.

Lunch was pretty good; some kind of local bar and grill. I had a burger.



I suggested earlier... maybe don't worry so much about the pay until you actually interview and have an offer in hand.

That was a rather informative and entertaining post. I'm at a position in life where I can't be a part of any corporate other than my own but I find it uplifting to hear about the misfortune of others. Well done.
 

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phd folks gets hired into grade 7, MS are hired into grade 6, usually after 2-3 years you'll make it to grade 7.

btw, if there are any recent grads (circuits/eecs) who are interested in working with intel in the bay area (even after reading what Rumpltzer said) PM me, we're hiring a good amt. of people right now.

what Rumpltzer said is true for most process/product engineers or folks that deal with the fab :) for circuits it's different but still has it's pros and cons.

they have better perks these days, free soda/coffee, free fruits, a pretty stocked snack cabinets that ranges from cliff bars to starbucks cappuccino to m&ms to chips to all types of nuts, etc. and they often give out movie tickets, tickets to local events such as tennis, opera, etc.

whether you love or hate intel really depends on the group you're in as well as the product you're working on.
 

endervalentine

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Nope, not in school offered pay grade level 6, I have 6 years experience. Offer is 80k tried negotiating 7 with no success. Hear the real money is at level 7 and up also hear it is hard to get promoted there. Yes, I realize it is based on individual situation and talent but... it is a very big company.

I want to know if 7 is the start of better bonuses, pay etc.?

which site are you interviewing for and what position?

the main difference between grade 6 and grade 7 is the bonus, you really get a bump in bonus with grade 7.
 
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I have many friends at Intel all very happy. I am just disappointed in my current offer.
Haven't accepted yet.
 
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coloumb

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you know why Intel serves free coffee? it's because the tool owners must carry [and answer] their pagers 24/7. Late nights = long day of being hopped up on Caffiene.

they do have some nice perks - there is an entertainment room a short distance from the entrance of D1C - pool table, massage chairs, Satellite TV, Nintendo Wii.

I personally think working at Intel will burn you out pretty fast - quite a few tool owners typically don't stay with the same product line for more than a few years or will quit to go work elsewhere.
 

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endervalintine do see engineers over in circuits or design working long hours like in process/product?
 
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Dawp, my least favorite is when people say “I could care less" Yes, communicating via the keyboard as much as we do verbally. I guess just in a hurry.  I have been meaning to change that!
Flagrant grammar mistakes that make you look stupid...accept/except; complement/compliment; and fewer/less ... Doh!
 

ultimatebob

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Intel's pay grade system sounds an awful lot like IBM's, where most entry level people with a college degree start at "Band 6", and most people with 4+ years job experience or an advanced degree start at "Band 7".

Like IBM, I'd imagine that Intel's band levels are pretty meaningless when it comes to salary. When I worked there, a "Band 7" could make anywhere from $60K to $110K a year based off of location, experience, performance evaluations, and skill set.
 
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