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igor_kavinski said:
DT990 is used so I assume it's already broken in? Didn't ask the previous owner before buying how long he had used them.

Tried on the HE400se just now. Their weight is balanced (I think the GSP 300 may be heavier). Build quality is great. Seems more expensive than what I paid for them. Seemed very comfortable and easy fit for my head. I may have to break them in then...

EDIT: Just weighed the HE400se and GSP 300 in my hands. Yeah, the HE400se is slightly heavier but remarkably light considering the amount of metal used in its construction.
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MOST of the Beyerdynamics studio headphones have a known issue with treble spike being very sharp...too much so for some people. "It's not a bug, it's a feature," says Beyerdynamic...

Send them to me...I'll take them off your hands for you to save you the pain of wearing them. 😛
 
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I like my DT-770 just fine. I have bt headset for calls/meetings

I bought them in 2008, the AT hot deals era
 
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sdifox said:
Just using the headphone jack on my keyboard, doubt it has any sort of amp. I don't think it's the 80ohm one so probably 250ohm
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OK, 770 should say on it. Unless they've made a recent change, the 32 ohm model has black "leatherette" ear cups. The 250 has the gray/silver velour cups. AFAIK, the DT770 doesn't come in 80 ohms. 32, 250, 600.
 
I use the 600 ohm DT880 powered by just my motherboard. Used to have the whole DAC and amp thing but I don’t use my PC enough to justify it anymore. Works fine and sounds good, but maximum volume is obviously limited. It gets loud enough for me. No idea specifically which Realtek chip off the top of my head but it’s an Asus X570 prime pro board.
 
BoomerD said:
OK, 770 should say on it. Unless they've made a recent change, the 32 ohm model has black "leatherette" ear cups. The 250 has the gray/silver velour cups. AFAIK, the DT770 doesn't come in 80 ohms. 32, 250, 600.
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it's the velour one so 250Ohm. I guess 80Ohm was for the DT770 Pro.
 
igor_kavinski said:
Your mobo has a built-in amplifier.
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Every motherboard with a headphone output has an amplifier to go along with the DAC chip (pretty much all of them to my knowledge). They vary in quality but just providing a data point that some of them can drive high impedance headphones to acceptable volume levels.
 
 
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That poor treble score may lead you to believe that SR850 is bad but I noticed no issues with it. Unless you are doing a side by side comparison with both headphones in possession, I don't think the lesser treble accuracy is discernible. Notice, however, the expanded soundstage. This should be more noticeable while playing games. And at almost five times less price, SR850 seems to me to be a winner.

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HE400se is in a league of its own regarding the soundstage.
 
BoomerD said:
Well...I hate to admit to being wro...wro...wro...incorrect, but it appears beyerdynamic DOES make the DT 770 Pro in 80 ohms...and it has the velour ear cups as well.

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Then just get the dt770 pro 80 Ohm. Mine is plenty loud even with 250 Ohm but I don't need skull shattering volume so there is that.

My board has ALC1220-VB, which apparently includes headphone amp.

The Impedance Ballad (image heavy)

There have been lots of people with the mindset of 'the higher the impedance of a headphone, the harder it is to drive them, or the harder it is to push it louder'. Consequently, this leads to the mindset of 'the higher the impedance of a headphone, the more it needs an amp' It's been said a lot ...
linustechtips.com linustechtips.com

Bayerdynamics are pretty easy to drive. You want higher sensitivity cans if you want to avoid getting an amp.

 
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sdifox said:
Then just get the dt770 pro 80 Ohm. Mine is plenty loud even with 250 Ohm but I don't need skull shattering volume so there is that.

My board has ALC1220-VB, which apparently includes headphone amp.

The Impedance Ballad (image heavy)

There have been lots of people with the mindset of 'the higher the impedance of a headphone, the harder it is to drive them, or the harder it is to push it louder'. Consequently, this leads to the mindset of 'the higher the impedance of a headphone, the more it needs an amp' It's been said a lot ...
linustechtips.com linustechtips.com

Bayerdynamics are pretty easy to drive. You want higher sensitivity cans if you want to avoid getting an amp.

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Wow...thanks for that. Good info. I'm gonna take some time to dig through that.
 
or build your own, there are many designs over at head-fi.
www.head-fi.org

DIY (Do-It-Yourself) Discussions

See the new DIY and Mods wiki/articles section for DIY and mod guides. The DIY Big List & Rules forum has been removed. If you need anything from there please PM joe. Please note that Group Buys, including group builds of DIY products are NOT PERMITTED on Head-Fi due to previous...
www.head-fi.org www.head-fi.org

This allows targeting towards your choice of impedance cans, or something that will handle all, though generally for high impedance cans you want at least an 18V if not 24V PSU, something to keep in mind when looking at prebuilt products too, especially those that are USB rechargeable so probably much less than that, if even more than 3.7V nominal.
 
From what I understand, high impedance means less distortion at high volumes but high volume will cause hearing issues which will force you to pump it higher till the sound sensitive hair in the inner ear cease to function.
 
sdifox said:
Worst case get one of these
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That looks scary cheap...might work though...

mindless1 said:
or build your own, there are many designs over at head-fi.
www.head-fi.org

DIY (Do-It-Yourself) Discussions

See the new DIY and Mods wiki/articles section for DIY and mod guides. The DIY Big List & Rules forum has been removed. If you need anything from there please PM joe. Please note that Group Buys, including group builds of DIY products are NOT PERMITTED on Head-Fi due to previous...
www.head-fi.org www.head-fi.org

This allows targeting towards your choice of impedance cans, or something that will handle all, though generally for high impedance cans you want at least an 18V if not 24V PSU, something to keep in mind when looking at prebuilt products too, especially those that are USB rechargeable so probably much less than that, if even more than 3.7V nominal.
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Nah. I manage to fck up enough things...dealing with something like that just isn't my forte.

igor_kavinski said:
From what I understand, high impedance means less distortion at high volumes but high volume will cause hearing issues which will force you to pump it higher till the sound sensitive hair in the inner ear cease to function.
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WHAT? DID YOU SAY SOMETHING?
I operated heavy equipment for 30+ years. My hearing ain't what it should be... (my wife keeps pushing me to get checked for hearing aids...but I just don't hear her nagging.) 😛
 
BoomerD said:
That looks scary cheap...might work though...



Nah. I manage to fck up enough things...dealing with something like that just isn't my forte.



WHAT? DID YOU SAY SOMETHING?
I operated heavy equipment for 30+ years. My hearing ain't what it should be... (my wife keeps pushing me to get checked for hearing aids...but I just don't hear her nagging.) 😛
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Headphone amp is not exactly complicated circuitry.

How to Build the CMoy Pocket Amplifier

tangentsoft.net tangentsoft.net
 
igor_kavinski said:
How about these: https://www.amazon.com/Conduction-Headphones-Bluetooth-Waterproof-Activities/dp/B09JK3RQZL/

Just return them if you don't like them. They might keep you from going deaf.

Philips ones: https://www.amazon.com/Philips-Conduction-Headphones-Lightweight-Waterproof/dp/B08PMH54LK
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LOL...Bone phones!

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Thanks...I'll pass. Right now, I'm in a conversation with a guy who works for Beyerdynamic's service department. He has some of the DT880 Pros for $115+ shipping. ($125 for the 990 32 ohm)
I just might go that way...and pick up an inexpensive amp/dac.

I've also been given a lead to some (used) Sennheiser HD560S phones for about $60...
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They're reputed to have a strong clamping force...might be too much for my fat head...I've messaged the seller about returns if that's the case.
 
I would say try driving it with the mb headphone jack. If it is not good/loud enough then get headphone amp.

I have a headphone amp somewhere in the miscellaneous electronics box. Never used it lol.
 
I ordered a set of (refurbished) beyerdynamic DT 880 Pro 250 ohm headphones today from beyer's authorized repair center. $125 shipped. They're SUPPOSED to be in "excellent condition." We'll see when they get here.

Now I have to find a decent inexpensive amp/DAC.
 
BoomerD said:
I ordered a set of (refurbished) beyerdynamic DT 880 Pro 250 ohm headphones today from beyer's authorized repair center. $125 shipped. They're SUPPOSED to be in "excellent condition." We'll see when they get here.

Now I have to find a decent inexpensive amp/DAC.
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Or just try driving them with your mb.
 
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