anyone watching "the real Abraham Lincoln"?

[waggy]

wow. the show pretty much said the reason he ran for president was to abolish slavery. how they are talkign is NOTHING like what i learned in school.

 

[theflyingpig]

I shall pray on this matter. God will tell me what to do.

 

[grohl]

no, I have a life - I'm on the computer!

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: grohl
no, I have a life - I'm on the computer!

can't you do both!?

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: waggy
wow. the show pretty much said the reason he ran for president was to abolish slavery. how they are talkign is NOTHING like what i learned in school.

I am not watching it, but Lincoln did not fight the war to free the slaves. As a matter of fact Lincoln thought blacks were only 3/5 of a person. On the flip side Robert E Lee did not even believe in slavery. Go figure

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: waggy
wow. the show pretty much said the reason he ran for president was to abolish slavery. how they are talkign is NOTHING like what i learned in school.

I am not watching it, but Lincoln did not fight the war to free the slaves. As a matter of fact Lincoln thought blacks were only 3/5 of a person. On the flip side Robert E Lee did not even believe in slavery. Go figure

ok i didn't know that about Lee. actually i may have read that somewhere. he didnn't like slavery but believed the states should have the right to make that decision or something like that.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: waggy
ok i didn't know that about Lee. actually i may have read that somewhere. he didnn't like slavery but believed the states should have the right to make that decision or something like that.

A true freedom fighter fights for liberty and freedom even if he doesn't agree with some of the consequences of said liberty.

 

[waggy]

ok. this was disappointing.

the show re-wrote history. it made Lincoln out to be a man driven to abolish slavery and for equal rights. WTF do they have to do that? just tell the truth and facts. don't try to change how history was.

 

[Arkaign]

A total travesty of a show. If you want to know what a bastard Lincoln was in terms of crushing liberty, read Thomas DiLorenzo's 'The Real Lincoln'.

 

[waggy]

oh my god. they are saying Lincoln was the firs Martyr of the civil rights movement. ugh GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK.

 

[thecrecarc]

If I recall correctly, Lincoln wanted the republic together at all costs. He knew if it was half free, or half slave it wouldn't work, the entire house of cards bit. It was not that he wanted to free the slaves, it was that freeing the slaves was the only option to keep the united states together during that period. I'm sure if you went up to Lincoln and said "Ok, you keep the union together but you legalize slavery in the entire united states" he would of wholeheartedly agreed. The United States' preservation was his priority, not the slaves.

 

[Baked]

Lincoln was gay and had many butt buddies.

 

[Lummex]

Originally posted by: thecrecarc
If I recall correctly, Lincoln wanted the republic together at all costs. He knew if it was half free, or half slave it wouldn't work, the entire house of cards bit. It was not that he wanted to free the slaves, it was that freeing the slaves was the only option to keep the united states together during that period. I'm sure if you went up to Lincoln and said "Ok, you keep the union together but you legalize slavery in the entire united states" he would of wholeheartedly agreed. The United States' preservation was his priority, not the slaves.

This.

 

[newnameman]

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[lokiju]

Originally posted by: waggy
ok. this was disappointing.

the show re-wrote history. it made Lincoln out to be a man driven to abolish slavery and for equal rights. WTF do they have to do that? just tell the truth and facts. don't try to change how history was.

Total BS.

Slavery was the hot topic button of it's time to get public support for the war.

 

[nanette1985]

Originally posted by: lokiju

Originally posted by: waggy
ok. this was disappointing.

the show re-wrote history. it made Lincoln out to be a man driven to abolish slavery and for equal rights. WTF do they have to do that? just tell the truth and facts. don't try to change how history was.

Total BS.

Slavery was the hot topic button of it's time to get public support for the war.

Slavery yes, equal rights no. Big difference between "not being a slave" and "having equal rights".

 

[Passions]

Originally posted by: thecrecarc
If I recall correctly, Lincoln wanted the republic together at all costs. He knew if it was half free, or half slave it wouldn't work, the entire house of cards bit. It was not that he wanted to free the slaves, it was that freeing the slaves was the only option to keep the united states together during that period. I'm sure if you went up to Lincoln and said "Ok, you keep the union together but you legalize slavery in the entire united states" he would of wholeheartedly agreed. The United States' preservation was his priority, not the slaves.

This is what I learned as well. :thumbsup:

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: thecrecarc
If I recall correctly, Lincoln wanted the republic together at all costs. He knew if it was half free, or half slave it wouldn't work, the entire house of cards bit. It was not that he wanted to free the slaves, it was that freeing the slaves was the only option to keep the united states together during that period. I'm sure if you went up to Lincoln and said "Ok, you keep the union together but you legalize slavery in the entire united states" he would of wholeheartedly agreed. The United States' preservation was his priority, not the slaves.

You nailed it. And for that he is to be applauded. His goal was to keep the union and that was his greatest accomplishment. The slave trade was common place around the world at that time, let's not forget that. Lincoln didn't want to free the common practice around the world of owning slaves (bought and paid for by their African masters), but to keep the union.

So many people forget what USA really means.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: thecrecarc
If I recall correctly, Lincoln wanted the republic together at all costs. He knew if it was half free, or half slave it wouldn't work, the entire house of cards bit. It was not that he wanted to free the slaves, it was that freeing the slaves was the only option to keep the united states together during that period. I'm sure if you went up to Lincoln and said "Ok, you keep the union together but you legalize slavery in the entire united states" he would of wholeheartedly agreed. The United States' preservation was his priority, not the slaves.

You nailed it. And for that he is to be applauded. His goal was to keep the union and that was his greatest accomplishment. The slave trade was common place around the world at that time, let's not forget that. Lincoln didn't want to free the common practice around the world of owning slaves (bought and paid for by their African masters), but to keep the union.

So many people forget what USA really means.

I don't think slavery was as common as you think. I'm pretty sure the British abolished it 50 years earlier. And at that time in history Britain was 25% of the world.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: thecrecarc
If I recall correctly, Lincoln wanted the republic together at all costs. He knew if it was half free, or half slave it wouldn't work, the entire house of cards bit. It was not that he wanted to free the slaves, it was that freeing the slaves was the only option to keep the united states together during that period. I'm sure if you went up to Lincoln and said "Ok, you keep the union together but you legalize slavery in the entire united states" he would of wholeheartedly agreed. The United States' preservation was his priority, not the slaves.

You nailed it. And for that he is to be applauded. His goal was to keep the union and that was his greatest accomplishment. The slave trade was common place around the world at that time, let's not forget that. Lincoln didn't want to free the common practice around the world of owning slaves (bought and paid for by their African masters), but to keep the union.

So many people forget what USA really means.

I don't think slavery was as common as you think. I'm pretty sure the British abolished it 50 years earlier. And at that time in history Britain was 25% of the world.

Having a law stating that slavery is illegal is different than actually abolishing its practice. The British Empire practiced slavery into the 20th century. They just gave it a new name - colonialism.

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: thecrecarc
If I recall correctly, Lincoln wanted the republic together at all costs. He knew if it was half free, or half slave it wouldn't work, the entire house of cards bit. It was not that he wanted to free the slaves, it was that freeing the slaves was the only option to keep the united states together during that period. I'm sure if you went up to Lincoln and said "Ok, you keep the union together but you legalize slavery in the entire united states" he would of wholeheartedly agreed. The United States' preservation was his priority, not the slaves.

You nailed it. And for that he is to be applauded. His goal was to keep the union and that was his greatest accomplishment. The slave trade was common place around the world at that time, let's not forget that. Lincoln didn't want to free the common practice around the world of owning slaves (bought and paid for by their African masters), but to keep the union.

So many people forget what USA really means.

I don't think slavery was as common as you think. I'm pretty sure the British abolished it 50 years earlier. And at that time in history Britain was 25% of the world.

Having a law stating that slavery is illegal is different than actually abolishing its practice. The British Empire practiced slavery into the 20th century. They just gave it a new name - colonialism.

"THE HORROR! THE HORROR!"

to who can place the quote.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: thecrecarc
If I recall correctly, Lincoln wanted the republic together at all costs. He knew if it was half free, or half slave it wouldn't work, the entire house of cards bit. It was not that he wanted to free the slaves, it was that freeing the slaves was the only option to keep the united states together during that period. I'm sure if you went up to Lincoln and said "Ok, you keep the union together but you legalize slavery in the entire united states" he would of wholeheartedly agreed. The United States' preservation was his priority, not the slaves.

You nailed it. And for that he is to be applauded. His goal was to keep the union and that was his greatest accomplishment. The slave trade was common place around the world at that time, let's not forget that. Lincoln didn't want to free the common practice around the world of owning slaves (bought and paid for by their African masters), but to keep the union.

So many people forget what USA really means.

I don't think slavery was as common as you think. I'm pretty sure the British abolished it 50 years earlier. And at that time in history Britain was 25% of the world.

Having a law stating that slavery is illegal is different than actually abolishing its practice. The British Empire practiced slavery into the 20th century. They just gave it a new name - colonialism.

By that logic so did the USA.

 

[rise]

Teachers and parents should record this documentary for all school-aged children...

heh, i didn't watch it, just lol'd after reading this thread last nite...

 

[Printer Bandit]

lincoln was a vampire hunter. everyone knows this.