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MrX8503

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After reading up on the Kin and how it was developed I hope no one from that team touches the WinMo7 project. If anyone from the Kin project works on WinMo7, I wouldn't even waste the gasoline I would use to set the phone on fire.

I believe that Android and iOS4 will still reign supreme, but I'll do a wait and see for WinMo7. As time passes on, the uphill battle for WinMo7 gets more fierce every day. Remember that the original iPhone was released in 2007. WinMo7 isn't coming to light until closer to 2011.

This leads me to suspect that MS didn't start development on WinMo7 until the iPhone became successful, they thought WinMo 6.0 was enough and were caught with their pants down.

Expect WinMo7 to release in 2011, then expect waiting another three years for it to be competitive. The time MS would need to make their OS "polished", Android would have something out beyond Gingerbread. If Google and Apple are consistently improving their OS, MS is gonna have to pull some miracles to catch up.

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I'm still not sure why people are still caught up on WinMo 6.5. Yeah it is very customizable with no limits, but the OS was a nightmare to use. There's a point where having every feature is not an advantage when everything about it just plain sucks.
 
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Deeko

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They had a different vision for Windows Mobile 7 originally. It would have been a solid improvement on Windows Mobile 6x, but then the iPhones and Androids came in and completely changed the market, so they scrapped what they had and started from scratch.
 

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Its really not so much 'caught up in' WinMo6.x, its just some people have grown to use a lot of Apps in 6.x versions and 7 won't be compatible with the older apps
 

MrX8503

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Its really not so much 'caught up in' WinMo6.x, its just some people have grown to use a lot of Apps in 6.x versions and 7 won't be compatible with the older apps

I refer to those people as, "can't get with the times". Technology moves with or without people. Lets say in another two years, smartphones are going to be exponentially bigger than they are now. People need to realize and grasp change.
 

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I refer to those people as, "can't get with the times". Technology moves with or without people. Lets say in another two years, smartphones are going to be exponentially bigger than they are now. People need to realize and grasp change.

Lets say you are a company and you've written a signficant amount of customer software for your business on the Windows Mobile platform. As far as you are concerned, WinMo has the best Exchange and Office integration, along with compatibility with your customer software. What is your reasoning to change?
 

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Lets say you are a company and you've written a signficant amount of customer software for your business on the Windows Mobile platform. As far as you are concerned, WinMo has the best Exchange and Office integration, along with compatibility with your customer software. What is your reasoning to change?

Move on to the next best thing if you can afford it or if its available. If its not available then cope with what you have until support for it dries up.

I work for the state gov and I'll tell you right now that our systems are heavily outdated. I think its a mix of cost and our IT department not willing to upgrade. Because of those reasons though, our government is not at all any where near the forefront of tech. But in the cases of enterprise its harder to update, my original post is targeted towards individual users.
 

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I refer to those people as, "can't get with the times". Technology moves with or without people. Lets say in another two years, smartphones are going to be exponentially bigger than they are now. People need to realize and grasp change.

in the world of ethernet phone systems, analog still work and are viable.

in the world of smart phones, winmo 6.x still work and are viable.


i dont still have my winmo 6.1 phone because i "cant get with the times", i have it because i dont want to pay for the new flavor of the week. my phone does what i need it to, does it well and i really have no issues with the interface. samsung does a decent job of covering winmo for most things needed to do on my phone. when i find a phone that suits me and can replace my current phone, i will get it. regardless of what OS is in it.
 

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in the world of smart phones, winmo 6.x still work and are viable.


i dont still have my winmo 6.1 phone because i "cant get with the times", i have it because i dont want to pay for the new flavor of the week. my phone does what i need it to, does it well and i really have no issues with the interface. samsung does a decent job of covering winmo for most things needed to do on my phone. when i find a phone that suits me and can replace my current phone, i will get it. regardless of what OS is in it.

In the world of desktops, Windows XP still work and are viable.

i dont still have my windows xp desktop because i "cant get with the times", i have it because i dont want to pay for the new flavor of the week. my desktop does what i need it to, does it well and i really have no issues with the interface. Window blinds does a decent job of covering windows xp for most things needed to do on my desktop. when i find an desktop OS that suits me and can replace my windows xp, i will get it. regardless of what OS it is.
 

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In the world of desktops, Windows XP still work and are viable.

i dont still have my windows xp desktop because i "cant get with the times", i have it because i dont want to pay for the new flavor of the week. my desktop does what i need it to, does it well and i really have no issues with the interface. Window blinds does a decent job of covering windows xp for most things needed to do on my desktop. when i find an desktop OS that suits me and can replace my windows xp, i will get it. regardless of what OS it is.

haha very true. Only catch is with winxp it would be new flavor of the decade :D
 

cronos

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Move on to the next best thing if you can afford it or if its available. If its not available then cope with what you have until support for it dries up.

I work for the state gov and I'll tell you right now that our systems are heavily outdated. I think its a mix of cost and our IT department not willing to upgrade. Because of those reasons though, our government is not at all any where near the forefront of tech. But in the cases of enterprise its harder to update, my original post is targeted towards individual users.


I can tell you right now that it's not just those two (cost + unwillingness). With government agencies there are ridiculous politics involved with OS/software/hardware upgrade that's most of the time it's just not worth it to go through the process of upgrading stuff every other year. It is a huge hassle. This is why they usually not bother to upgrade until it is absolutely necessary.

Either way, to go back on topic, my personal opinion is exactly what's been said before: I have yet to find a Windows Mobile device that intrigued me, so I'm definitely not waiting for these 7s to come out. I'll be watching the reviews closely though.
 

hanoverphist

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In the world of desktops, Windows XP still work and are viable.

i dont still have my windows xp desktop because i "cant get with the times", i have it because i dont want to pay for the new flavor of the week. my desktop does what i need it to, does it well and i really have no issues with the interface. Window blinds does a decent job of covering windows xp for most things needed to do on my desktop. when i find an desktop OS that suits me and can replace my windows xp, i will get it. regardless of what OS it is.

in the world of PLC programming and SCADA design, win XP is still required. the software i use is not windows 7 compliant, and only partially vista compliant. for this reason, my work computers are all windows XPPro still. it is still viable, operational and necessary. "not getting with the times" does not always apply, nor is it always the reason people dont upgrade. we can go back and forth on this, but really there is no point. both OS are viable, there is no real argument for this beyond "i want the latest and greatest!". if it works, no real reason to upgrade. until you decide you want something different, and the features outweigh the cost (monetary, time, whatever) of going through with that upgrade.