Anyone using Type 44 compound?

[Texun]

Anyone ever use Type 44 HS compound?

I only found one review about it. I don't buy the results of the test because their tests show there isn't even a tenth of a degree difference between any of the products listed, even AS. I've got a bottle of the Type 44 but don't have a need to try it yet. Just wondering if it was worth keeping or considering for my next project.

Comparison For AMD Platform:

Brand: Idle Temp Stress Temp
Arctic Silver 80F / 26.6C 111F / 43.8C
Arctic Silver II 80F / 26.6C 111F / 43.8C
OCZ QuickSilver 80F / 26.6C 111F / 43.8C
Generic Silicone 80F / 26.6C 111F / 43.8C
Type 44 80F / 26.6C 111F / 43.8C
Quality Silicone 80F / 26.6C 111F / 43.8C

Comparison For Intel Platform:

Brand: Idle Temp Stress Temp
Arctic Silver 78F / 25.5C 86F / 30C
Arctic Silver II 78F / 25.5C 86F / 30C
OCZ QuickSilver 78F / 25.5C 86F / 30C
Generic Silicone 78F / 25.5C 86F / 30C
Type 44 78F / 25.5C 86F / 30C
Quality Silicone 78F / 25.5C 86F / 30C

 

[Jhhnn]

Type 44 is good stuff. The only downside is that the thick consistency can be a problem in large surface area/ low pressure applications- squeezing out the excess can be difficult.

The guys at HardOCP like it, too, and you'll find it in virtually any electronics shop...

I've thinned it out with zero residue contact cleaner and painted on a thin layer for wide-area applications- works great...

 

[Zepper]

According to A.S. instructions it takes a day or two for AS3 or 5 to bed in for best performance. None of the tests really follow the instructions as far as I can tell. I suppose the other goops might work better if instructions were followed for each brand and type. The juveniles that run most of these hardware sites just don't have the attention span for proper testing.
. I think I'd have more confidence in dansdata.com testing than most of the others. But he doesn't follow the instructions either...
.bh.

 

[klocwerk]

Here's some data for you.
I'm running an athlon 1ghz, OCed to 1.2
Stock heatsink.
It had on the thermal goop that came with the heatsink, it's been on there at least a year now.
Idle (well, playing MP3s) was about 55c.
Applied Arctic Silver 5 yesterday afternoon.
Idle as above, 48c.
Right now, idle 44c.
I'll update later with more temps.

 

[PCTweaker5]

I dont see any comparisons in those tests, they are all the same numbers! ???did you make that chart??? lol get AS5

 

[klocwerk]

Originally posted by: PCTweaker5
I dont see any comparisons in those tests, they are all the same numbers! ???did you make that chart??? lol get AS5

har har.
;o)

all I have is AS5, I was just pointing out that it definitely has a breakin period, and a significant one.

 

[Nevin]

Texun and PCTweaker5,

In the compound test referenced, the tester used WD-40 to clean the CPU and heatsink between tests. Since WD-40 is designed to not evaporate and to leave a protective coating on metal, the WD-40 ended up being the main thermal interface material present on all the tests.

A week or two earlier, the tester had included the same heatsink in a heatsink roundup. Using the same test system and CPU, the temperatures with the particular heatsink were 2C or 3C lower than in the thermal compound roundup. That was before the heatsink was cleaned with WD-40.

Basic science 101 tells us that we should always question a null result in a test..

To illustrate, it is very doubtful anyone could devise a test that would show a consistent significant difference between two identical heatsinks with # 1 always beating #2 by 5C or more, but it is easy to design a test that will not show any difference between a copper heatsink and an aluminum heatsink that actually are 5C apart in performance. All you have to do to cause the null result is put the temperature probe at the edge of the chip where it is half an inch away from the core, or put the probe low in the socket where it does not touch the bottom of the chip, or test with the computer at idle so the CPU is only dissipating a few watts, or best of all, use the temperature provided by the Winbond chip on the motherboard that is located at least 3 inches away from the heatsink.

(We have had our products tested all 3 ways in published reviews with null or near-null results.)

And the Type 44 is very good compound and totally safe to use.

Nevin House
Arctic Silver, Inc.

 

[Texun]

Originally posted by: Zepper
The juveniles that run most of these hardware sites just don't have the attention span for proper testing... bh.

That's a good one! I personally would not have posted those results. As Nevin stated, a null result would indicate a problem with the test. It should have raised a flag. Also, the WD40 trick was one I hadn't read about before. I'll stick with alcohol.

I broke down and tried the Type44. Maybe I put too much on or didn't do something right. I went from 40C with some fake silver to 42C idle with the Type44. I've got an order for AS5 on the way and will see how that goes. Temps are fine... this is more of a hobby than a necessity. I appreciate the replies!