Anyone Used a Mouse/Keyboard on the XBox?

[olds]

I hate FPS' with a controller. A friend told me about this adapter. Has anyone tried it?

 

[Queasy]

Search around for reviews on it. Most came across as it being iffy. Especially with games like GoW that were designed with console controllers in mind.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

One of the palces selling it has this disclaimer

Terms of Purchase: We do NOT accept returns on this item. We do not garantee your satisfaction when purchasing this device, please be 100% sure you want the item before placing your order.

The only Amazon review on June 19th

Bottom line: it does not work.
This is a product that some manufacturer just dumps in the US for hapless consumers.
Tech support is non-existent. No phone number to call and they do not respond to emails.
Its a great idea, I just wish it worked.

Maxconsole liked it though
Good digg on it too link One player loves it

I have an xfps 360 and and it is almost perfect when used with Gears of war and Lost Planet. Gears has a 1% deadzone on high sensitivity that you won't even notice after a while. With the XFPS I can press keys quick and turn very quickly in a controlled manner when playing Gears and Lost Planet. I have also put people down from a distance because of my increased aiming ability. However, that doesn't mean that controller people can't put on a good fight; the "controller people's" shotguns are unforgiving lol, and they also kick ass with the sniper rifles. You know what, I really wish I can show you guys how well I can aim; I can aim at anything quickly and kill, and with the freakin grenades, forget about it, I AM CRAZYyyyyyyy. I can toss a grenade right on target without even swinging it. I'm talking real time actions with the frag in Gears.

HEADS UP:
1)Play gears on high sensitivity and you'll be able to movie smoothly and quickly, checking your front and back almost immediately like in real life.
2)do not play Lost Planet on "8 acceleration" because it gives the game a dead-zone, think about the word "acceleration/dead-zone" (that's why a lot of you have been complaining about this game); put the settings on
" 8 Cruise, this will take away all of the dead-zone (the smallest movement with the mouse will cause action with this setting)
3) You can also use the playstation smart Joy Frag with the Xfps 360 to adjust the dead-zone, being that you can use playstation connections and all. ( I adjust my deadzones with the smart joy when playing my other tittles like rainbowsix vegas, and battlefield 2)

 

[KLin]

Sorry to resurrect and old thread, but I'm curious about these adapters now a days. I've been playing GOW2 and getting torn up. I wonder how many people are using an XFPS adapter to play with a keyboard/mouse in GOW2 online?

 

[RESmonkey]

It's all garbage stuff on the market. The best you can buy for your money is a XIM2, and that's still not perfect.

Look at the link in my sig and go to "Prototype II" and click on one of the links to the PG3B homepage. This is a work in progress that will soon become the best KB/M on a console solution (but that's the tip of the iceberg).

 

[KLin]

Which means Microsoft and Sony will need to re-evaluate allowing keyboards and mice to be used in console games I think. Or figure out a way if someone is using an adapter to emulate a controller.

 

[fatpat268]

I wouldn't bother with these adapters. I mean... they'll "work," but it won't be a great experience.

I do wish more games on the consoles would provide KBM support. If competitive balance is an issue, how about making seperate KBM playlists for certain shooter games?

 

[mmntech]

Which means Microsoft and Sony will need to re-evaluate allowing keyboards and mice to be used in console games I think. Or figure out a way if someone is using an adapter to emulate a controller.

It's not Microsoft or Sony since they already do allow it. UT3 supports keyboard and mouse, on the PS3 anyway. The big reasons are balance, and the devs being too lazy to implement it.

 

[slightlyhuman]

do NOT buy that. i had that before i found the xim360 adapter...

read more at xim360.com

the max shooters and any other cheap device is utter shit. it has a 'deadzone' that makes it absolutely worthless.

if you need more details i can provide plenty. i'm untouchable on MW2 with the xim360.

 

[slightlyhuman]

btw i returned mine. come watch one match of me on mw2 and you'll be convinced...

 

[BD2003]

And even if you could find one that worked pretty good enough to give you an edge, you'd basically be a cheater. Maybe not technically a cheater, but in the general spirit of cheating, and where's the fun in that?

One of the best things about consoles is how relatively difficult it is to cheat, as well as the standardization of hardware. Sure, people can have better TVs and Audio, but thats not exactly game specific, and you're not exactly going out of your way to hack the system into supporting something it's not supposed to.

Learn to use the controller. As a long time, die hard PC FPS player from back in the day, if I can get used to the controller, anyone can. No, you do not have as precise control with a controller as the Mouse/KB. That's an absolute fact, and I'm certainly not going to deny it. But once you're used to the controller, the game is no less fun than it was with a KB/Mouse. It will take some adjustment, but you'll come to accept it, and you'll no longer miss your beloved KB/Mouse.

I'd love to see Mouse/KB support in future consoles, provided they dont mix them in online games. That would be a disaster. That being said, I'd probably still continue to use the controller.

 

[slightlyhuman]

And even if you could find one that worked pretty good enough to give you an edge, you'd basically be a cheater. Maybe not technically a cheater, but in the general spirit of cheating, and where's the fun in that?

One of the best things about consoles is how relatively difficult it is to cheat, as well as the standardization of hardware. Sure, people can have better TVs and Audio, but thats not exactly game specific, and you're not exactly going out of your way to hack the system into supporting something it's not supposed to.

Learn to use the controller. As a long time, die hard PC FPS player from back in the day, if I can get used to the controller, anyone can. No, you do not have as precise control with a controller as the Mouse/KB. That's an absolute fact, and I'm certainly not going to deny it. But once you're used to the controller, the game is no less fun than it was with a KB/Mouse. It will take some adjustment, but you'll come to accept it, and you'll no longer miss your beloved KB/Mouse.

I'd love to see Mouse/KB support in future consoles, provided they dont mix them in online games. That would be a disaster. That being said, I'd probably still continue to use the controller.

cheating? that's retarded. there are still plenty of people that can hand me my ass in MW2. it's another way to play the game. i see no reason why someone like myself, who hasn't played a console game since 007 on the n64, can't find an adapter that's easier for them. there are just as many console gamers(who aren't pc gamers) that would be horrible on a mouse and keyboard. sure, i could take the time to learn the controller but fuck that.

 

[BD2003]

cheating? that's retarded. there are still plenty of people that can hand me my ass in MW2. it's another way to play the game. i see no reason why someone like myself, who hasn't played a console game since 007 on the n64, can't find an adapter that's easier for them. there are just as many console gamers(who aren't pc gamers) that would be horrible on a mouse and keyboard. sure, i could take the time to learn the controller but fuck that.

So its not cheating cause you suck? That doesnt make any sense.

I'm no good at getting headshots, does that mean I should use an aimbot?

Or why not get a modded turbo controller so you can full-auto on single shot weapons and have an advantage there?

Whatever makes you feel better about it, I guess. Online console games would be absolutely ruined if mouse/KBs were mixed in with controllers.

 

[RESmonkey]

Do you have XIM or XIM 2?
IIRC wasn't there a deadzone in the XIM?

 

[PieIsAwesome]

But once you're used to the controller, the game is no less fun than it was with a KB/Mouse.

Yes it is. That is the biggest problem for me, I can kick ass with the controller but I still hate it. FPS feel like mech shooters.

OP try the Xim2, its expensive but at least it works.

 

[StageLeft]

Man, I'd nut if it came out of box to bind keyboard/mouse on many of these games. IMO it would totally open up the xbox or ps3 or whoever. Like with Halo Wars, for example, I know they tried but let's get real an RTS just sucks with a handhold controller. Everyone knows this. And the FPS games are fun on these but still a mouse beats the hell out of a console controller. I suppose that if they had it go mainstream, though, those who cannot be bothered to setup a mouse/keyboard in front of their tv would absolutely get their ass handed to them in online play.

Yes it is. That is the biggest problem for me, I can kick ass with the controller but I still hate it.

I have no played an FPS on a PC in many years and yet still to this day I feel like a damned retard trying to do headshots with a console controller. They are inferior and I will never forget it, though the memories are a bit dim thankfully, as it's been so many years. Despite the first computer mouse being however many decades old now it still is the true honest to goodness kickass way to control a pointer on a monitor.

 

[PingSpike]

I mentioned this in another thread, but I think they should just stick a trackball onto a controller. Those are actually fairly close to mouse and I think with some practice there wouldn't much difference in precision. And you could still use it on the couch.

 

[slightlyhuman]

So its not cheating cause you suck? That doesnt make any sense.

I'm no good at getting headshots, does that mean I should use an aimbot?

Or why not get a modded turbo controller so you can full-auto on single shot weapons and have an advantage there?

Whatever makes you feel better about it, I guess. Online console games would be absolutely ruined if mouse/KBs were mixed in with controllers.

it's not cheating. it's no different from people using xbox controllers on pc games. it's what i prefer and have been using for the past 10 years.

get over it.

 

[slightlyhuman]

Do you have XIM or XIM 2?
IIRC wasn't there a deadzone in the XIM?

the software that comes with the xim2 gives you lots of room to tweak the configs. i'd say my current setup is 95% like kb/m on pc games. the deadzone difference in the xim2 and xfps maxshooter is night and day. it's UNPLAYABLE on a console shooter. maybe other games not requiring small, precise movements it would be alright.

 

[zerocool84]

Some of you guys are really funny. I'm a die hard PC gamer but have no problem playing with my friends on console fps's. Sure I'm not the best but it's not as hard as you all cry out to be.

 

[syn0s]

I haven't tried one of the new XFS adapters but I tried a SmartJoy FRAG for the original XBox back in the day and it is awful. No matter how hard they try with these adapters, it will never be like a true KB/M experience on a PC... And do you want to know why?

It's because console games aren't designed with KB/M support in mind but the thumbsticks on a gamepad. Plain and simple.. All these adapters are doing is trying to emulate the thumbstick movements with a KB/M and they attempt to throw tweaks in there but it never really fully pans out.

I saw the XIM360 and the XIM2 and was interested until I saw the price tag.. No way would I spend $150 just to use a KB/M on a console.. why not dump that into my PC where I can really use it for KB/M gaming?

Also, for the UT3 on PS3 argument.. Yes, they did design that ONE game with KB/M support. How many people actually use it on PS3 though? Of the remaining UT3 players on PS3, what percentage actually use a KB/M regularly?

THAT is why you don't see newer games like COD: MW2 with KB/M support, even on the PS3 where it is possible. I think the developers do take it into consideration, but it always is left off the list because the effort wouldn't really be appreciated anyways.

I too am a hardcore PC FPS gamer (grew up on Quake/Team Fortress 8+ hours a day for 8 years straight) and I'm adjusting to the controller and it is possible folks. Practice makes perfect, and it balances the playing field too so we can't rely on twitch tactics, reflexes, etc.

 

[gorcorps]

If you need an adapter to have fun, you shouldn't have bought the console.

 

[slightlyhuman]

why do you guys care so much what others use?

in short, i'm keeping my xim2. i actually bought an xbox JUST for mw2 since the pc version was dicked down.

 

[mindcycle]

I have an XIM360 and love it. I don't play anything online yet, but I wouldn't have a problem doing so. I'm sure there are controller players out there who would still wipe the floor with me and my KB/M. It's simply much more enjoyable for me using a KB/M to play FPS games. I can swing it with a controller, but the experience is just better with the control setup i'm more accustomed to.

 

[BarkingGhostar]

Some of you guys are really funny. I'm a die hard PC gamer but have no problem playing with my friends on console fps's. Sure I'm not the best but it's not as hard as you all cry out to be.

I think it also really depends on the specific game, too. For instance, I love playing Ghost Recon and Rainbow Six on the 360 with a controller (especially in CoOp mode), but I must be the next-to-the-worse MW/2 player out there.

I recognize the two dramatic differences in environments one is playing in, and how that can affect the player at hand. With MW/2 environments, I know a KBM would make a world of difference, but with other types of FPS (like GR/RBS) the controller is just fine for me. YMMV.