My notebook has a 17" widescreen @ 1440x900, and it's just about the ideal size for text (same size as my 20.5" 1680x1050 monitor). I was thinking about replacing the desktop entirely with a notebook and 1440x900 might not cut it, but i'm worried that 1900x1200 would just look way too small. if you have one of these what's your experience with it?
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Anyone use a UXGA (1900x1200) 17" display?
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My vision is about 20/40 in one eye and 20/60 in the other. For a while this was just an issue seeing long distances, but it's creeped up to the point where I can get increased sharpness by wearing glasses at the PC. On my Dell 20" 1680x1050 I sit 1 arm's length away from the LCD, any more than this can become a slight annoyance with small text. So this definitely concerns me going to a 1900x1200 on a screen 3" smaller.
In the case of the E1705 I really dont like either graphics card choice, ATI X1400 or GeForce 7900 GS. From what I have read the GeForce kills the battery life, while the ATI isn't going to be able to run games in the native resolution. Something inbetween would be ideal for the more casual gamer.
In the case of the E1705 I really dont like either graphics card choice, ATI X1400 or GeForce 7900 GS. From what I have read the GeForce kills the battery life, while the ATI isn't going to be able to run games in the native resolution. Something inbetween would be ideal for the more casual gamer.
Brainonska511
Lifer
This is one issue that kept me from buying a Dell notebook when I needed one for college this year. There were no portable notebooks (14" or 15.4") with decent midrange GPUs and on the larger notebooks, such as the 17" models, there is basically low-end GPUs and high-end, no middle ground and it isn't just the latest iteration of Inspirons. It seems to have always been that way for Dell.
I have a Dell Inspiron E1705, 17" WUXGA screen and the 7900GS.
I think the native resolution is a bit too small for me. I reduced it to 1680x1050.
I use it as my main machine so I don't care about battery life. I wouldn't want to lug around a 17" notebook all the time anyway. Not sure if there have been changes, but there were 4 videocard choices when I ordered mine (have owned for maybe a month now): 1400, 1600XT, another 7XXX model I forget, and the 7900GS.
I think the native resolution is a bit too small for me. I reduced it to 1680x1050.
I use it as my main machine so I don't care about battery life. I wouldn't want to lug around a 17" notebook all the time anyway. Not sure if there have been changes, but there were 4 videocard choices when I ordered mine (have owned for maybe a month now): 1400, 1600XT, another 7XXX model I forget, and the 7900GS.
Brainonska511
Lifer
Are you sure the choices weren't Integrated, X1300, X1400, 7800, 7900GS? I don't think Dell ever offered the MR X1600 in any of its noteboooks.
At the moment you can get X1400 or 7900GS on the E1705. I was just configuring one last night.
What I really want is a 17" at 1680x1050, a good midpoint between the 1440x900 default and the 1900x1200. And a video card inbetween the X1400 and 7900GS.
Guess what, it looks like HP has responded. The dv9000 that is about to be released has an optional 17" 1680x1050, and GeForce 7600 (which I am just guessing is inbetween the X1400 and 7900GS). It also has an HDMI port. The bad news is since we all know how to score deals w/ coupons at Dell, the HP is still likely to cost a few hundred more than the E1705. I'd also be a little bit concerned about the build quality of the HP although the dv9000 is supposed to be a whole new design. I have a dv8000 series and the screen cover is plastic and flexes easily. Anyone that has a E1705 I would be curious about the quality of the chassis and how much flex it has.
dv9000: http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/13958.jpg
What I really want is a 17" at 1680x1050, a good midpoint between the 1440x900 default and the 1900x1200. And a video card inbetween the X1400 and 7900GS.
Guess what, it looks like HP has responded. The dv9000 that is about to be released has an optional 17" 1680x1050, and GeForce 7600 (which I am just guessing is inbetween the X1400 and 7900GS). It also has an HDMI port. The bad news is since we all know how to score deals w/ coupons at Dell, the HP is still likely to cost a few hundred more than the E1705. I'd also be a little bit concerned about the build quality of the HP although the dv9000 is supposed to be a whole new design. I have a dv8000 series and the screen cover is plastic and flexes easily. Anyone that has a E1705 I would be curious about the quality of the chassis and how much flex it has.
dv9000: http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/13958.jpg
I have the E1705 and the build quality is nice. The only complaint I have is that the paint will scrape where your palms go if you use that as a mouse surface. It's 2" thick and 8lbs. Lighter than my 15.4" toshiba satellite.
I agree that more choices on video cards would have been nice. I, however, wanted the power of the 7900GS so that was the reason I bought a Dell. If you go to costco.com and visit the HP builder, you will save a couple hundred dollars on the build (if you are not a member, there is a 5% upcharge - but compared to the HP builder there was a $200ish difference) provided they offer the dv9000. I was there two weeks ago when I was purchasing (they almost had me w/ the dv8000t and if I could have gotten a better video card I would have pulled the trigger) and only saw the 8000 model.
People are down on Dell. I must admit, for several years I was as well. I was a technology manager for Kinko's for a couple of years and I saw a million laptops come through the door. Dell did nothing to inspire me, let me tell you. But as I started looking, I quickly realized that smaller laptops don't give you much performance. Having recently purchased a 2007FPW as a second monitor, I was very impressed with it's display so I decided to give them a shot. I really like this laptop. There could be better ones out there but I found the most GPU for the money at Dell. $525 off a $2100 laptop. I just wish I lived outside of Texas because tax was murder. The response has been fantastic. People are in awe of the screen and when they see I can keep it in my lap and play BF2 with no lag (and no hole burnt in my jeans), they are even more amazed. My afore mentioned toshiba had a P4. You literally could not have it in your lap. This Dell, even though bigger, is cooler, lighter, and more powerful.
I agree that more choices on video cards would have been nice. I, however, wanted the power of the 7900GS so that was the reason I bought a Dell. If you go to costco.com and visit the HP builder, you will save a couple hundred dollars on the build (if you are not a member, there is a 5% upcharge - but compared to the HP builder there was a $200ish difference) provided they offer the dv9000. I was there two weeks ago when I was purchasing (they almost had me w/ the dv8000t and if I could have gotten a better video card I would have pulled the trigger) and only saw the 8000 model.
People are down on Dell. I must admit, for several years I was as well. I was a technology manager for Kinko's for a couple of years and I saw a million laptops come through the door. Dell did nothing to inspire me, let me tell you. But as I started looking, I quickly realized that smaller laptops don't give you much performance. Having recently purchased a 2007FPW as a second monitor, I was very impressed with it's display so I decided to give them a shot. I really like this laptop. There could be better ones out there but I found the most GPU for the money at Dell. $525 off a $2100 laptop. I just wish I lived outside of Texas because tax was murder. The response has been fantastic. People are in awe of the screen and when they see I can keep it in my lap and play BF2 with no lag (and no hole burnt in my jeans), they are even more amazed. My afore mentioned toshiba had a P4. You literally could not have it in your lap. This Dell, even though bigger, is cooler, lighter, and more powerful.
I bought the E1705 to be my main machine since I was tearing up my desktop machine for other purposes, as well as replacing a Gateway 7405GX (actually rather good laptop) laptop.
The build quality of the E1705 is great. The hinges definitely seem strong -- which is a sore point with me, the only bad thing about my Gateway 7405GX. The entire shell feels solid. There are no creaks are chassis flex that I have witnessed. Honestly I was a little surprised to see how well built it was. I was expecting something along the lines of the Latitude series. And I'm used to using Panasonic Toughbooks for work. Granted this is no Toughbook, but for what I paid for it (around $1320 shipped, and I've seen it for about $1000 shipped a few days ago with basically the same options) -- it's worth every penny in my eyes.
The build quality of the E1705 is great. The hinges definitely seem strong -- which is a sore point with me, the only bad thing about my Gateway 7405GX. The entire shell feels solid. There are no creaks are chassis flex that I have witnessed. Honestly I was a little surprised to see how well built it was. I was expecting something along the lines of the Latitude series. And I'm used to using Panasonic Toughbooks for work. Granted this is no Toughbook, but for what I paid for it (around $1320 shipped, and I've seen it for about $1000 shipped a few days ago with basically the same options) -- it's worth every penny in my eyes.
programmer
Senior member
I have a Latitude D810 with 15.4" WUXGA (1920x1200). The normal 96 dpi text at that resolution is very small, like reading 4 pt printed text (e.g., smaller than the "fine print"). I do run it that way sometimes when doing development (Visual Studio takes up a lot of screen real estate), but usually run it scaled to 1280x800 for browsing and writing docs. I don't often use the in-between 1680x1050 which I imagine would suit a 17" screen very well. You should take a look at one in person before you decide, of course.
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