Anyone try this Jetway ATI board yet?

[ND40oz]

Just saw this on the egg, wondering if it overclocks better then the ECS and it has four slots for ram like the MSI. It also has a PCIe 1x slot as well.

Link

 

[render]

I was wondering the same thing....hmm...jetway

 

[o1die]

Thanks for the link. I tried downloading the manual off Jetway's website, but the link doesn't work yet. The techs may not have found the time to post it yet. I always download a manual and check for overclocking adjustments. I've used Jetway once before, and had no problems with it.

 

[hans007]

i ordered it for a system got it 2 days ago, but havent installed it yet.

the manual link online doesnt work. according to the paper manual in box it has the full range of tweaks for vcore, vdimm, ram timings that the full atx one has. i think ocworkbench did a reviewon that one a few months back. the ram is adjustable for all timings including command rate.

i know ram can go to 2.8 v from the manual. it doesnt say what vcore can do. will install this weekend, and post details.


this may be the best rs480 board yet. i have had almost all of them since well, they are really good deals for system builds. currently my brother has the ecs rs480-m in his machine which is excellent, the msi rs480m2-il i had for a while (it is stable, but completely untweakable), and i hope this one is even better.

personally i got it for the azalia. i have an athlon 64 3000+ winchester that did 265 x 9 on 1.6 v on an nf4 ultra board, i will see if it can do the same in this board.

 

[Megatomic]

hans007, please let us know how you like that board after you get it installed. I'm considering using a Radeon XPress motherboard when I finally upgrade to s939 (when I can afford a dual core chip).

 

[ND40oz]

Hans, wonder if you got one of the only ones, I was going to pull the trigger today, but it appears newegg is all sold out...

 

[IEC]

Originally posted by: hans007
i ordered it for a system got it 2 days ago, but havent installed it yet.

the manual link online doesnt work. according to the paper manual in box it has the full range of tweaks for vcore, vdimm, ram timings that the full atx one has. i think ocworkbench did a reviewon that one a few months back. the ram is adjustable for all timings including command rate.

i know ram can go to 2.8 v from the manual. it doesnt say what vcore can do. will install this weekend, and post details.


this may be the best rs480 board yet. i have had almost all of them since well, they are really good deals for system builds. currently my brother has the ecs rs480-m in his machine which is excellent, the msi rs480m2-il i had for a while (it is stable, but completely untweakable), and i hope this one is even better.

personally i got it for the azalia. i have an athlon 64 3000+ winchester that did 265 x 9 on 1.6 v on an nf4 ultra board, i will see if it can do the same in this board.

If this board really has all those tweaks it will be awesome! Please update soon as some of us are REALLY looking into a MATX 939 motherboard - I'm holding off on building my SFF for college until more s939 mATX motherboards come out, preferably with good tweaks/OC options for flexibility. 4 DIMM slots and Azalia just top it all off...

 

[calaverasgrandes]

I would reconsider. Jetway is not know for high quality or stability. SO I wouldn't choose them for such a critical component as the motherboard. My experiences with their past products has been, to be brief, painful.

 

[ChicagoPCGuy]

If you should buy it--let us all know how it works out. Any board using onboard X300 class graphics with dedicated 32megs of RAM, Azalia HD audio, and aluminum/polymer capacitors is of great interest!

 

[Megatomic]

Chicago, could you elaborate on what Azalia HD audio is exactly? That might breathe some life into this thread....

 

[IEC]

Originally posted by: Megatomic
Chicago, could you elaborate on what Azalia HD audio is exactly? That might breathe some life into this thread....

Azalia is a high-def specification for audio devised by Intel I believe - usually it's paired with the ALC880 DAC/codec, and it's supposed to provide very good quality audio (both digital and analog) on par with better dedicated sound cards. Saves a PCI slot at the very least on a mATX board

 

[hans007]

i will be setting up my system this weekend, ill update this thread when i am done.

 

[IEC]

Bump to remind Hans007 that many interested fans are waiting in the stands...

 

[hans007]

ok i finally got it installed.

so far this is what i can tell you. it supports fan throttling and cool and quiet. (my chaintech vnf4ultra does not).
RAM controls are as follows

ras active
ras precharge
ras to cas
and command rate are all controllable. it is settable to 100/133/166/200 , and these numbers adjust based on what the fsb is (so if you set fsb to 250, the numbers are 125, x, y, 250 etc)

hypertransport can only be set to 800 or 1000. this sort of sucks, since 600 is not an option.


WARNING, those settings dont actualy work. according to SI sandra the ram divider does not work. neither does the hyper transport setting. i really hope this gets fixed in some other bios version. it died on boot once, and the boot screen said something like "test bios rs480" anyhow....


pci lock is there.

vcore is adjustable from .825 to 1.55 volts in .025 increments. somewhat disappointing on the topend.

chipset voltage can be set to 1.8 or 1.9 volts

ram voltage can be set from 2.55 to 2.85 volts with .1 volt increments

multiplier is adjustable

fsb is adjustable by 1 mhz increments from 200-300fsb. basically it seems just like the fullatx version of this board.

also another thing. the ULI southbridge is not supported by xp. you MUST install the raid driver to use it in any mode. it does not come with a floppy for this which royally sucks. jetway's site is pure crap too. the easiest way to get the disk is to get the one for the shuttle rs480 based sff.


so since the hypertransport and ram ratios dont work even though the settings are there, the most i can o/c my cpu is 225x9 @1.55v.

on the chaintech vnf4 ultra the same cpu does 265x9@1.6 volts.

 

[IEC]

Hmmm... well thanks for the thorough review of OCing adjustments on the Jetway - looks like I'll be waiting a bit longer to see if any better mATX 939 motherboard comes out

 

[crucibelle]

hans007,

The raid drivers aren't on the cd that comes with the board?

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: crucibelle
hans007,

The raid drivers aren't on the cd that comes with the board?

im not sure they are or not, but either way you need a floppy disk with them on them, to install windows xp. it will ask for the disk since it cant ID the southbridge.

 

[crucibelle]

hans007,

Ah, I see. Thanks for your reply. By the way, did you use the shuttle raid drivers that you mentioned? If so, I'm assuming those worked alright for you? Thanks again.

 

[ND40oz]

Shoot, well, i'm kinda torn over buying this board, but I did find this interesting one on newegg, didn't have it listed as mATX but it certainly looks like it is.

JetWay A200GDMS

Looks like the same board, except only 2 ram and socket754, pair this with the $175 A64 3400+ and a decent heatsink, it looks like a better deal then this board and a 3000+ 939 processor.

EDIT: according to the Jetway site, it is mATX.

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: crucibelle
hans007,

Ah, I see. Thanks for your reply. By the way, did you use the shuttle raid drivers that you mentioned? If so, I'm assuming those worked alright for you? Thanks again.

yeah they worked fine.

 

[hans007]

seems like newegg is selling the non pro version now too. i think the only difference is there isnt the onboard 32mb ram. i'd say its probably worth saving $11 to do without it if you are using dual channel anyway.

 

[ND40oz]

Originally posted by: hans007
seems like newegg is selling the non pro version now too. i think the only difference is there isnt the onboard 32mb ram. i'd say its probably worth saving $11 to do without it if you are using dual channel anyway.

How are the graphics? I was planning on using this from MCE2k5 since the ATI chipset is certified for it. I'm probably going to opt for the pro version for the dedicated memory, have you seen any benchmarks that say there no difference in the quality between the two?

 

[frostedflakes]

How hot does the northbridge heatsink get with onboard VGA enabled?

These *look* to be solid boards. The aluminum caps are very similar to the ones used on my old ASUS PC-DL Deluxe dual Xeon server motherboard, if that gives you any idea of their quality. Hopefully Jetway will be able to iron out the current BIOS issues.

I'm thinking about taking the plunge and picking up the S754 non-pro version.

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: ND40oz

Originally posted by: hans007
seems like newegg is selling the non pro version now too. i think the only difference is there isnt the onboard 32mb ram. i'd say its probably worth saving $11 to do without it if you are using dual channel anyway.

How are the graphics? I was planning on using this from MCE2k5 since the ATI chipset is certified for it. I'm probably going to opt for the pro version for the dedicated memory, have you seen any benchmarks that say there no difference in the quality between the two?

when anandtech reviewed the rs480 prototype board, they had one with onboard 16mb 32bit memory, and they had benchmarks that said the performance difference was about 5-6% in 3d games wiht the 16mb on (which is called sideport) with UMA, or just UMA. there isnt NO difference, but its all in 3d. i would figure media playing would make no difference.

now the jetway though has 32mb of 64bit memory (2 chips) so its probably a little faster than the 32bit sideport since its 64bit. though i figure it cant be much more than 25-30% faster than UMA. my brother uses the ecs rs480 with pure UMA and he runs hl2 at 800x600 fairly decent. (Well at least he hasnt bothered getting a real vid card yet)

i did play battlefield 2 demo at 800x600 multiplayer online and it played very playable. i'm not a hardcore gamer though. the northbridge of all the rs480 boards i've had does get fairly warm when playing games with the northbridge running at 350mhz async. i've had the msi , ecs and jetway versions and the passive heatsink is definitely enough to cool them.

i would somewhat advise against getting the 754 version, if you intend to run ANY 3d stuff. since it is single channel ddr, and the one they are selling doesnt have the onboard ram (you can see on theboard that it has the spots for it) the 3d would be pretty slow with single channel UMA only.


BTW the one thing i do have to say about this board is it is a lot better audio wise than my ecs and msi rs480s were. and all of them were head and shoulders above the nforce4 boards i have had (i've had a foxconn nf4 microatx, and a chaintech nf4 ultra). its just clearer and less crackley

 

[hans007]

i emailed jetway about the hypertransport and ram divider problem. they responded 30 minutes later witha bios that fixes it.

wow.

its not on their website though, but for some reason they have a bios for the socket 754 version on their site. oh well, hopefully it works.