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GlobalHPSJoe

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Originally posted by: adamcz28
If they want to improve their customer service they should think about answering phone calls, and responding to emails from their customers.

Adam,

I appreciate the feedback. The phone system previously discussed is in its final stages of completion. Getting all the companies we have to deal with on the same page at the same time has been a nightmare. This will allieviate all of the issues phonewise we've had, and also allow my folks to work more on emails as well.
 

Mr Fox

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Originally posted by: MonarchJoe
Monarch Computer Systems categorically denies the accusation of this individual who has chosen to perform a ?hit job? on this family owned company. Monarch has not been contacted by any agency or government entity threatening to close the company down or issue a restraining order.


Monarch has investigated this post, which has been repeated on a number of forums, and linked it to a customer from April of 2005 who ordered a combo containing an AMD chip. The order was delayed due to an error in the chips needed for the combo being shipped to Monarch via ground rather than air. This error was not due to any mistake on Monarch?s behalf. Nevertheless, the customer canceled the order and Monarch refunded it the same day. Why nearly a year and a half later the customer?s anger and resentment at a seemingly minor and routine delay that happens to many companies in our line of business has resulted in these unwarranted attacks is beyond us. There has also been some discussion that an individual with such a grudge could be capable of making the postings deemed suspicious by resellerratings that resulted in the loss of 37 ?very satisfied reviews? from our rating and the account being closed.


Luckily the legions of happy and satisfied customers make up for the rare but inevitable cases like these. We sincerely appreciate the legions of loyal, satisfied and happy Monarch customers who have supported our company over the years and especially in the face of such bizarre attacks.


If you are having an issue with a Monarch order, we encourage you to contact joe@monarchcomputer.com who along with Sterling has been specially charged with seeing that no customer falls through the cracks. As an aside, Monarch is in the midst of a customer satisfaction campaign. We discussed this several weeks ago, here.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear



It looks to me as though your "Campaign" was discovered over at resellerratings....



It would seem to me that if someone intended to torpedo your RSR they would post Negatively........ not Positively and I'm sure that once they run through the IP logs it will be sorted out... but it looks like the positive ratings have been tossed, and RSR is down to 5.30

The excuses that you have used relate to Management Issues....

Your Issues have been made Your Customers....

They are your reason for existience... without them what are you ?

We pay the Bills and Keep the Lights On..


My personal issues with Monarch Computer are from a much more recent time frame than what you are reffering to, and has not been not the subject matter of this thread.

The posts here have been roughly 80% Negative, and 20% positive.

That should be an indicator as to what you need to work on Customer Service Wise.

Tying up peoples Credit for Months, and Denial of issues will not Help...

Then Everyone is happy to hand you a Brick on your way down.....

 

Mr Fox

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Originally posted by: ActuaryTm
Originally posted by: MonarchJoe
Monarch has investigated this post, which has been repeated on a number of forums, and linked it to a customer from April of 2005 who ordered a combo containing an AMD chip. The order was delayed due to an error in the chips needed for the combo being shipped to Monarch via ground rather than air. This error was not due to any mistake on Monarch?s behalf. Nevertheless, the customer canceled the order and Monarch refunded it the same day. Why nearly a year and a half later the customer?s anger and resentment at a seemingly minor and routine delay that happens to many companies in our line of business has resulted in these unwarranted attacks is beyond us. There has also been some discussion that an individual with such a grudge could be capable of making the postings deemed suspicious by resellerratings that resulted in the loss of 37 ?very satisfied reviews? from our rating and the account being closed.
Why am I not at all surprised?

While I do not doubt there is further proof, here is one of the aforementioned threads on another forum, which is word for word verbatim (including the unoriginal signature).

Thank you for the clarification, Joe.

Edit: here's another.



The Person that did that post obviously Cut and Paste it from here, he is a highly rated individual that the forum the you refered to and he has well over 500 posts... and he must have done that before I fixed the link. shows that it was posted 9/24/2006 1:19 pm.

His signature is nothing like mine.

He probably had an issue......

I would never own anything OCZ or eVGA either...

Monarch was a Good Company at One Time I'm Sure... In this Market things can go backwards fast....They Have a Long Road to Hoe though..... if they wan't to get back where they were.

 

ActuaryTm

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Originally posted by: Mr Fox
The Person that did that post obviously Cut and Paste it from here, he is a highly rated individual that the forum the you refered to and he has well over 500 posts... and he must have done that before I fixed the link. shows that it was posted 9/24/2006 1:19 pm.

His signature is nothing like mine.
User: Reynard.
Total Posts: 2.

Signature:
If it isn't Broke... Leave it alone

Reynard
 

ActuaryTm

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Originally posted by: Mr Fox
The posts here have been roughly 80% Negative, and 20% positive.
Personally, I see nothing wrong with raising legitimate issues, concerns, and experiences; however, let's maintain a bit of accuracy.

Of the 52 responses in this thread with personal experience, 28 have been positive or neutral (in this context, neutral should be inferred as an amalgam of both good and bad experience, but would order again). 24 responses have been negative, and would not order again.

Roughly an even split, as the recent ResellerRatings would indicate (though I completely concur with allisolm that ResellerRatings are not always a good predictor as far as company reliability and customer service are concerned).
 

Mr Fox

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Originally posted by: ActuaryTm
Originally posted by: Mr Fox
The Person that did that post obviously Cut and Paste it from here, he is a highly rated individual that the forum the you refered to and he has well over 500 posts... and he must have done that before I fixed the link. shows that it was posted 9/24/2006 1:19 pm.

His signature is nothing like mine.
User: Reynard.
Total Posts: 2.

Signature:
If it isn't Broke... Leave it alone

Reynard



You offered to this link :

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?p=4710536

and that is what I was responding to... sorry for any confusion !!
 

mrjminer

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I'm not exactly sure where you guys are coming from in your issues because my experience with Monarch was great.

About two or three months ago, the time where many of the supposed issues on resellerratings.com stem from, I ordered an OCZ 700w GameXstream for $130. My order was placed in the PM hours and I chose the cheapest shipping option they had. Within two days of placing my order, it was shipped out and the PSU got to my door in the two or three days following (I live in Illinois if anyone wanted a time estimate of FedEx's service). Took me another day or two to get up to Fedex to sign for the package (which, in my opinion, is a completely awesome procedure because it makes sure that I get my parts--they are the only merchant I am aware of that does this and they do not appear to pass this cost onto the customer) and I found the PSU to be packaged very well, not to mention completely functional upon trying it out.

I didn't post my positive story on resellerratings because I don't really like the way it's laid out--there is no real verification of the information being posted. Did you guys know that businesses bribe people to post on reselleratings? Ever ordered from a place like FrozenCPU (others probably do this too, but I haven't ordered from those ones before)? You are basically bribed to go post your story on ratings sites; for example, FrozenCPU gives you $5.00 off your next order or something for going and posting your story (again, others probably do something like this too--or at least Bizrate stuff where you get entered into a "random $25 drawing" to give feedback).

When I ordered from FrozenCPU, I ordered about $25 worth of stuff (sorry it was a while ago and don't remember everything)--two of these items were 10-packs of zip ties. Guess what I got in my box? Yah, one pack of zip ties. I had a legitimate reason to file a negative comment, but I didn't because resellerratings is not a very good gauge of a company. Most people who are really doing business do business. They don't give a crap about whether other people shop at a store, they just want their items and when they get them they don't need to tell anybody how "great" something was unless they ask--it's the nature of the majority of people. Sure, there are some sites that have fanboys (yes, sites have fanboys), like the Egg, FrozenCPU (even though some may be bribed), and even Monarch, but if you take a look at everybody's ratings, how many of the posts are from buyers with only **ONE** review? That's right, 99% of them.

Do you really think that people who go onto resellerratings to praise a company just for getting them their order on time would have only **ONE** review? Of course not, they are likely just the same people doing repeat business that really like a certain store and want to bump them up--else they'd have more reviews from the other stores they would have gotten packages "on time" from or whatever standard business thing companies do. I'm not saying any stores specifically are good or bad or that all companies blow even though resellerratings says their good, but that you can't use an unverifiable document as a source with any sort of validity.

Did I post my stories on resellerratings? Nope.
Do the majority of people post "success" stories of their experiences? Nope.
Do those on this forum represent the population as a whole? Nope.
Do many people expect a great deal more than what they pay for? Yup.

I'm not exactly sure if you are familiar with processes that consumers go to if they can't get everything "their way." With the BBB, for example, here's one of my experiences: (quotes to separate it from other text):
Quoting myself:
I used to work at an Arby's that got a BBB complaint. Want to guess what it was for? One of our fryers broke earlier in the day so we didn't have fresh fries up at the time the customer came in. Sure, we could have (and should have) given the customer old, disgustingly cold fries that they wouldn't enjoy, but we, instead, advised the customer that there would be a three minute wait for fresh fries. Basically, the customer then began throwing a tantrum so we got our manager to come resolve the issue. The customer demanded not only their fries for free (which we would have given them just so we wouldn't have to deal with them), but their sandwiches for free, as well. Obviously, we are not in business to give food out for free.

Following this, we got a BBB complaint. The complaint (didn't see it myself, but this is what I was told) was that we did not sufficiently resolve the issue with the customer because we *only* offered to give them free fries. To get it closed, we really didn't have a choice except to give the customer a coupon for a free meal. I guess we should have offered to blow them right there in the store, too.

My point is that many customers demand unreasonable things; we were basically blackmailed to comply with the customer or either face the tediousness of explaining to the BBB why the customer should not get a free meal or take a hit to our reputation. Sure the BBB can cut through most of it if it's a BBB thing, but something, for the most part, unmoderated (ie, do they contact everyone that posts to verify the story is true) like resellerratings does not. My experience represents food items costing Arby's less than about two dollars--with Monarch it's computer parts that cost a hell of a lot more than that, so I don't see why they should be blamed for people being unreasonable.

I mean, seriously, most of the issues I see brought up with them is related to pre-order Conroe refunds, which were clearly stated on their website at the time to be non-refundable (IIRC, I don't have a Conroe but I remember browsing around and seeing that notice right on the product page at the time), or the time it takes to refund, which is estimated in Monarch's Terms and Conditions as:
Quoting Monarch's Terms and Conditions:
Refunds, if applicable, will be made in U.S. dollars and Monarch Computer Systems is not responsible for currency fluctuations. Credits are processed within 15 days and take one billing cycle to post, typically within 30 days.

Looks to me like Monarch lets everyone know that it's going to take time for refunds. If people actually read terms and conditions on websites, maybe they'd stop complaining about things that they are INFORMED OF IN ADVANCE. To make an analogy, it's claiming that you didn't know the rules so it's not your fault if you broke them, but it's someone else's fault for you not reading the rules. Beyond this:
Quoting Monarch's Terms and Conditions:
Delivery dates and build times may be delayed due to credit processing, component incompatibility and changes in order. Statements that an item is "in stock" is not a guarantee.
In other words, sometimes crap happens that they can't foresee. If you aren't willing to accept that a company can't predic the future 100% of the time, then why are you ordering from anywhere? Conroe stuff didn't ship as they predicted--how do you know it's not Intel's fault?

Anyways, on the BBB, some of Monarch's issues are "repair related"--how much is everyone willing to bet that it's an item someone got DOA then blamed Monarch for since the customer did not purchase a warranty through Monarch--despite it being clearly stated on their website. (Yes, this is an assumption, but it's just an example of the kind of stuff people complain about)

I'm not saying you guys don't have valid issues or that you guys are lying, but that you should simply stick to things that are known. Clearly, we don't and we are not legally allowed to know the surroundings of all stories that go on--specifically from the side of ANY merchant.

As I said, though, I had no problems with Monarch and, from what I've heard, they've been working on getting things together that they actually had wrong (ie, some phone issues or something maybe, can't say for sure because I never had to call them because they had my order right the first time). They get a thumbs up from me.

Perhaps some of you guys should go back and check to see if your issues are valid or not--maybe it was just because you didn't read the Terms and Conditions on Monarch's site before ordering (ie, refund times), in which case you're at fault and owe an apology. Granted, this doesn't apply to everyone posting here, but I think that some, at least, fall into this category (generally speaking, perhaps not even specifically anyone here).

--Jeff Miner
 

esquared

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More review sites besides RR.
Pricewatch.com Read the last three pages that show a trend over the last month. I am especially concerned about the 12 positive reviews that came in between 1:42 PM and 4:16PM on 9-26-06. C'mon 12 + reviews in 2 1/2 hours when an average review comes in once every day or two??? Call me skeptical but..............
Epinions.com
Bizrate.com
And finally the BBB of Georgia

edit:
Here's ratings from Pricegrabber.com
 

jkyle

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Of the 52 responses in this thread with personal experience, 28 have been positive or neutral (in this context, neutral should be inferred as an amalgam of both good and bad experience, but would order again). 24 responses have been negative, and would not order again.

Roughly an even split, as the recent ResellerRatings would indicate (though I completely concur with allisolm that ResellerRatings are not always a good predictor as far as company reliability and customer service are concerned).

So its ok for a company to only piss off 50% of its customers?
 

Zebo

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Monarch Computer Systems categorically denies the accusation of this individual who has chosen to perform a ?hit job? on this family owned company.

Of course you deny it what else you going to say being who you are? We suck? We take more orders than we can fullfill? We slow? Now we can't expect that it's always someone elses fault.. Never mind that half the posts in here are negative, which corresponds perfectly with a so-so reseller rating you have, it's all one guy responsible for the "hit job." Uh huh, sure. Nice appeal to emotion there with the "family owned company" line. I don't care if the Mother Thersea owns Monarch it's obvious you been slacking. Own up or shut up, I hate weezly excuses and yours reads like one.
 

wiretap

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I just was a winner in the MonarchComputer Hornet contest over on HardForum. My username is "w1retap". I've been on H for years, even before the forum revamp years ago. (user name has since changed) Anyhow, I've been ordering through Monarch for at least the past 6 years, if not longer. I've spent tens of thousands of dollars through work, and personal spendings at Monarch's site. I have yet to have a single issue.

Shipping:
All my shipments have come within the specified time periods, and they've never messed up a single order. My computer components always come well documented and usually with a tracking number when they ship out. Sometimes I don't get emailed one, but from my past experiences, I usually don't need a tracking number because I know I'll get the shipment. My typical times for recieving individual components are by the next week, or a little longer for mobo/cpu/ram combo packages. (I'd estimate 10 business days max for my combos)

Return Policy or DOA:
One time I was building a non-linear video editor for work. I ordered an AMD Athlon XP combo package with cpu/mobo/ram. Our company was lied to by Matrox saying their "Matrox RT.X 100" would work with the components we ordered. Well, it turned out the Athlon XP combo we ordered was using the incorrect motherboard chipset. What did I do? I called Matrox and argued for over 3 weeks getting nowhere. Then I turned to Monarch to see if they would do anything. Well, they really did us a HUGE favor, and they didn't even have to. Monarch traded us an even exchange for a compatible Pentium 4 setup for our video editor. There was no questions asked. In my opinion, thats simply amazing.

Customer Service:
When I call Monarch's customer service line, I usually get through pretty darn fast. There's someone there ready to talk and I don't even have to wait in queue. I've asked questions about order status, shipping status, technical questions about a product, and they've always pulled through. I only had one issue where I called (1) time and they didn't pick up. I had to call back and they said they were having phone problems that day, which is perfectly understandable to me because I can relate.

Products and Prices:
In my opinion, Monarch's selection is huge, and they prices are very fair. On my most recent purchases, I got several AM2 combo deals at better prices than anywhere else on the web. I compared with Newegg, ZZF, Ewiz, etc, and all of them couldn't beat Monarch's pricing. I also got the extended warranty through Monarch because its definetly worth it. They also keep up to date on new products and rebates. Everything is easily accessible.

Other:
Overall, I'm prefectly satisfied with Monarch's performance as a company. At the current moment, I'm battling with Newegg because for one of my work orders they "lost" our purchase order check. Its been over 2 weeks and its still not resolved. I knew I should have ordered through monarch. (the only reason I didn't was because one of the items was out of stock on a large purchase and my boss didn't want two seperate orders)

It looks like I'll continue to be a long time customer of Monarch and recommend them to my friends/co-workers. I haven't had a bad experience in all my years and dozens upon dozens of orders. I know they aren't a huge automated company with hundreds of employees, so they do quiet well and exceed my expectations.

The reason I wrote this is because I was asked to participate in this thread and let everyone know what my feelings were about Monarch. If I had a negative experience, trust me, I would TEAR THEM APART. If you would like negative experience stories, don't even get my started on Best Buy, CompUSA, Verizon, Ford/Mercury, Compaq tech support, dell tech support, Comcast, etc. The list goes on. This is my true story of dealing with monarch, and I wouldn't take all this time to make it up. Take it as truth, or as a grain of salt since this is the "internet". See it as you wish.

--wiretap
 

ActuaryTm

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Originally posted by: jkyle
So its ok for a company to only piss off 50% of its customers?
Of course not.

I prefer to deal with factual and accurate information however, rather than broad sweeping (and incorrect) generalizations.

If one takes a moment to read through the thread, I've not voiced my opinion on Monarch in one direction or the other.
 

jkyle

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Me either and to be honest after reading this thread I would be scared to order from them. I mean here and there a few problems happen to all companies but it dosent take a genius to see a consistant track record of delays, lack of customer support and worse of all not refunding peoples money. How many posts have the customer having to go through their cc company to get a refund after MONTHS of failures of the company to do whats right? Thats the funky part if you care one bit about customer support you dont screw around with their money.
 

Zebo

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Until Mr. Monarch has a serious bout of critical self analysis and implements proceedures to restore his good name I won't either. Prices may get you in but they won't keep you.
 

regalboom12

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Monarch Computer Systems categorically denies the accusation of this individual who has chosen to perform a ?hit job? on this family owned company.

Of course you deny it what else you going to say being who you are? We suck? We take more orders than we can fullfill? We slow? Now we can't expect that it's always someone elses fault.. Never mind that half the posts in here are negative, which corresponds perfectly with a so-so reseller rating you have, it's all one guy responsible for the "hit job." Uh huh, sure. Nice appeal to emotion there with the "family owned company" line. I don't care if the Mother Thersea owns Monarch it's obvious you been slacking. Own up or shut up, I hate weezly excuses and yours reads like one.

Originally posted by: Zebo
Until Mr. Monarch has a serious bout of critical self analysis and implements proceedures to restore his good name I won't either. Prices may get you in but they won't keep you.


did you even read the many threads where they have admitted problems and addressed them and spoke to how they are rectifying them? Also about them having reps on many sites to personlly address their customers. They are not saying "it is someone elses fault" they are saying that the thread starter here (and many other places) has for some reason held on after nearly a year and a half and is trying to harm them..
 

Pepsi1337

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Originally posted by: regalboom12
sounds to me like someone has a problem with MCS and is not playing fair.

a) we have a whole bunch of newebies posting how HORRIBLE Monarch is on this and other forums
b) we have someone posting a bunch of false posts on resllerratings to get them banned

I mean damn they have let me down before who hasn't? no one is perfect. But these "horrible close them down" posts are all newbies hmmm?

This is a bit interesting, I found that there is a Mr Fox trying to destroy a monarch butterfly habitat in CA. hmmmm makes ya think

Link


Yes, I am a newbie on this forum but I am a long time reader of anandtech. I usually only come to the forums to check hot deals and I have never had anything to contribute because I don't find hot deals ahead of the crowd. This thread just happened to come up a couple of months after I had problems with Monarch. Like I said, I didn't rate them low or cause a stir about my dissatisfaction or anything because I felt they went the extra mile by opening the store for me after they had already closed. On the other hand, I wouldn't personally order from them again because it took so long and their return policy. If you think I'm making this up, don't you think I would come up with a 100% dissatisfaction story? At the very least, I know MonarchJoe can verify my story by asking his employees.
 

MonkeyFaces

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Originally posted by: jkyle
Me either and to be honest after reading this thread I would be scared to order from them. I mean here and there a few problems happen to all companies but it dosent take a genius to see a consistant track record of delays, lack of customer support and worse of all not refunding peoples money. How many posts have the customer having to go through their cc company to get a refund after MONTHS of failures of the company to do whats right? Thats the funky part if you care one bit about customer support you dont screw around with their money.

Thanks! Maybe if support like this keeps up, I can get some compensation from them. My mom has $80 worth of extra interest since monarch decided to keep her money for that long. Seriously, I don't know why monarch would go through the trouble of making people wait so long for refunds, unless they are hoping that their customers are idiots who won't care for $100's of dollars missing from their accounts. Even if they don't care for one disgruntled customer, I hope they have learned how to answer their emails and phones. They seem to put customers who are expecting a refund onto an ignore list. Even worse, I contacted Hard Forum's resident Monarch representative and he never responded to me. When I got fed up and issued an ultimatum of just respond to me or else I will contact the BBB, I got a big fat ban from that forum.
 

phelan1777

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I used to buy from Monarch about once a month over the last two years, and only in the last six months have I had issues with my orders.


A month ago I ordered a Stacker 810, with 2 day shipping. I did not receive an e-mail till 3-4 days later saying the order was finally submitted to the warehouse for shipping. A week later, and an e-mail from me the case finally showed up.

I received this from monarch after I filled out a survey.

I am sorry for your unhappiness and our slow shipping of your order... I
have forwarded your concerns to our status and shipping departments.
Thank you very much for your feedback. Every customer's feedback and
opinion is very important to us and is essential to us improving
ourselves.

Shawn

Monarch Computer

Please include copies of all previous conversations when you reply.
These will help us greatly.

 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: regalboom12
Originally posted by: Zebo
Monarch Computer Systems categorically denies the accusation of this individual who has chosen to perform a ?hit job? on this family owned company.

Of course you deny it what else you going to say being who you are? We suck? We take more orders than we can fullfill? We slow? Now we can't expect that it's always someone elses fault.. Never mind that half the posts in here are negative, which corresponds perfectly with a so-so reseller rating you have, it's all one guy responsible for the "hit job." Uh huh, sure. Nice appeal to emotion there with the "family owned company" line. I don't care if the Mother Thersea owns Monarch it's obvious you been slacking. Own up or shut up, I hate weezly excuses and yours reads like one.

Originally posted by: Zebo
Until Mr. Monarch has a serious bout of critical self analysis and implements proceedures to restore his good name I won't either. Prices may get you in but they won't keep you.


did you even read the many threads where they have admitted problems and addressed them and spoke to how they are rectifying them? Theya re not saying "it is someone elses fault" they are saying that the thread starter here (and many other places) has for some reason held on after nearly a year and a half and is trying to harm them dispite them ahving reps on many sites to personlly address their customers.

No I have not but thats welcome news. But what difference does that make until it happens? Action not words, results not planning. Until Monarch drops the self aggrandizement PR mumbo jumbo above and adopts a more conciliatory tone I don't see that resellerrating doing a reversal.
 

regalboom12

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Originally posted by: Zebo
No I have not but thats welcome news. But what difference does that make until it happens? Action not words, results not planning. Until Monarch drops the self aggrandizement PR mumbo jumbo and adopts a more conciliatory tone I don't see that resellerrating doing a reversal.

look up one post LOL

and don't forget this from monarchjoe earlier:

If you are having an issue with a Monarch order, we encourage you to contact joe@monarchcomputer.com who along with Sterling has been specially charged with seeing that no customer falls through the cracks. As an aside, Monarch is in the midst of a customer satisfaction campaign. We discussed this several weeks ago, here.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: regalboom12
Originally posted by: Zebo
No I have not but thats welcome news. But what difference does that make until it happens? Action not words, results not planning. Until Monarch drops the self aggrandizement PR mumbo jumbo and adopts a more conciliatory tone I don't see that resellerrating doing a reversal.

look up one post LOL

Another late order, wonderful... Again : action not words, is the key to reversal.


Ed spell
 

MonkeyFaces

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Originally posted by: regalboom12
Originally posted by: Zebo
No I have not but thats welcome news. But what difference does that make until it happens? Action not words, results not planning. Until Monarch drops the self aggrandizement PR mumbo jumbo and adopts a more conciliatory tone I don't see that resellerrating doing a reversal.

look up one post LOL

and don't forget this from monarchjoe earlier:

If you are having an issue with a Monarch order, we encourage you to contact joe@monarchcomputer.com who along with Sterling has been specially charged with seeing that no customer falls through the cracks. As an aside, Monarch is in the midst of a customer satisfaction campaign. We discussed this several weeks ago, here.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

If monarch joe is the same guy as the hard forum mr monarch, then there's no way in hell I'm dealing with that a$$hole again. In my initial messages to the guy, I messaged him in a dignified tone, saying that I thought it was his fellow employees' incompetence and begged him to right my problem. He basically told me that there was no record of me contacting them despite filling out a gillion order question forms and sending them numerous emails. He then stopped responding to me and when I tried to extract a reply from him by trying to let the forum community aware of his duplicity, I got banned and my post was edited/deleted. *end rant*
If you are mr monarch of forum, then I don't want to deal with you. If you aren't, I was just trying to report the manner in which your company has responded to me (or hasn't responded to me).
 

Mr Fox

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If monarch joe is the same guy as the hard forum mr monarch, then there's no way in hell I'm dealing with that a$$hole again. In my initial messages to the guy, I messaged him in a dignified tone, saying that I thought it was his fellow employees' incompetence and begged him to right my problem. He basically told me that there was no record of me contacting them despite filling out a gillion order question forms and sending them numerous emails. He then stopped responding to me and when I tried to extract a reply from him by trying to let the H] forum community aware of his duplicity, I got banned and my post was edited/deleted. *end rant*
If you are mr monarch of [ forum, then I don't want to deal with you. If you aren't, I was just trying to report the manner in which your company has responded to me (or hasn't responded to me).



As much as I like [H}ard OCP they are firmly in the pocket of Monarch.... Monarch Advertizes there so it is truly a Conflict Of Interest Situation there i'm sure.....

Sad that they have sunk also... they started out telling it the way that it is and have lost sight of their principals for the $$$

They(Monarch) used to advertise here also .. but I belive that Lal Schimpi has dropped them..... I am also glad for the Moderators here understanding that this needed to be said...

Hopefully... Monarch will learn from the experience.
 

GlobalHPSJoe

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I'm not Mr Monarch, I'm registered on Hard as MonarchJoe as well. Quite honestly I just never quite got into their forum, mainly for lack of time.

We're not perfect, never claimed to be nor will we ever be.

We've had a rough past few months, as evidenced by the decline in reviews. There are several reasons as to why, but I feel we are headed in the right direction. We're human, we make mistakes, but quite honestly I have yet to find another company that will go to the lengths (Within reason obviously) to address each individual's problem hands on. Will we be successful each time, no, we can't please everyone. But history shows that we do try.

I try to make myself personally available here as much as possible, and I have always publically posted my personal email address so anyone can contact me directly. History shows that I have been able to take care of most everyone that has contacted me, not that I'm trying to brag but I hope it shows the indication that we care. People have posted that they've heard the restructuring/correcting the ship story before. You have, I know, because chances are I posted it. The process is a long and bumpy one, filled with both highs and lows. If I could walk in the door tommorrow, snap my fingers, and everything would be 100% perfect... well then I would never have to post here again because I'd be independantly wealthy as a business consultant. :)

So again, those that have had great experiences with us, I hope we can continue to serve you. To those that haven't, I welcome you to contact me directly. I want to know what we did wrong, and I want to know what I can do to earn your trust back. To those that haven't used us before, if you have any apprehension at all please feel free to contact me directly as well.