Anyone see this? Gen Powell on Fox.. Can anyone confirm?

[almostmakingit]

I didn't see it but got it email... Can anyone confirm??


Mr. Powell was discussing Mr. Bush's trip to Europe,
and was at a point in his recitation covering certain
concerns regarding Russia, and Russia being requested
to cooperate with the United States too track down
lost Nuclear materials and scientists who were
unaccounted for after the break up of Russia, that now
may be in the hands of, or in the case of the missing
scientists, working for adversaries of the USA.

The quote from Mr. Powell, per the Russian Scientists
that every American "NEEDS" to hear immediately is as
follows:

[Colin Powell] - "Finding the Russian scientists may
be a problem being that Russia does not have a Social
Security System, as here in America, that allows us to
monitor, track down and capture an American citizen."

EMPHASIS added to the word CAPTURE!

Please pass this on to every one that you know. The
significance of Mr. Powell's statement is profound,
and essential to be heard by all in this country.

I thank Mr. Powell for inadvertently being honest
towards the underlying intent of the US Government,
reaffirmed by his admission.

 

[ChrichtonsGirl]

Even if that was true, you're reading way, way too much into it. I doubt Powell said that - the grammar in that statement is atrocious and not really his style.

If I break the law, I expect to be "captured" by my government, so even on the wildly improbably chance that these were his words and that he suddenly was speaking for the entire government, I'm not concerned at all. I don't think this kind of statement has much meaning for law-abiding citizens.

 

[Amused]

The actual quote from Colin Powell, according to Fox New's web site (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,27515,00.html) is:



"Well, no, we don't exactly have a social security system that captures every Russian scientist, but this is something that is of concern to us and should be of concern to Russia as well. Russia should see that it is even more in their interest than our interest not to have this kind of knowledge leave Russia. And you keep that knowledge from leaving by finding alternative sources of employment for these scientists, and we have had programs with Russia that accomplishes this purpose. We can do more of that."

 

[almostmakingit]

How did you find that so fast?? Thanks...

 

[ChrichtonsGirl]

Thanks, AmusedOne. As expected, the true quote is a little less hysterical.

 

[almostmakingit]

Maybe I've become hyper sensitive to this Since NYS Education Department decided to require that a person gives their social security number when asking a question or requesting information.. NYED Request for info site If you don't give your social security number the form kicks back saying required field not filled..

 

[Carbo]

<< Maybe I've become hyper sensitive >>

That's a bit of an understatement, I'd say. After reading your initial post to start this thread, I'm surprised you're not in a bunker, tucked away somewhere in your own private Idaho.

 

[almostmakingit]

LOL... Bunker in Idaho...

My original post ..was a passed on email requesting confirmation.. I couldn't find any info..

On state ed and social security requirement.. Friend of mine spoke with State Senator .. his lawyers agreed that it is intrusive and probably illegal to request that.. Hyper sensitive perhaps..

I just wonder who makes out these info forms.. then I wonder ..why would they decide that they needed a persons soc sec # to answer a question?..

 

[etech]

.consumer-action.org
How can a school use my Social Security number?
Schools that receive federal funding must comply with the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA, also known as the &quot;Buckley Amendment,&quot; enacted in 1974, 20 USC 1232g) in order to retain their funding. One of FERPA's provisions requires written consent for the release of educational records or personally identifiable information, with some exceptions. The courts have stated that Social Security numbers fall within this provision.

FERPA would apply to state colleges, universities and technical schools that receive federal funding. An argument can be made that if such a school displays students' SSNs on identification cards or distributes class rosters or grades listings containing SSNs, it would be a release of personally identifiable information, violating FERPA. However, many schools and universities have not interpreted the law this way and continue to use SSNs as a student identifier. To succeed in obtaining an alternate number to the SSN, you will probably need to be persistent and cite the law. Social Security numbers may be obtained by colleges and universities for students who have university jobs and/or receive federal financial aid.

(The FERPA text can be found at the web, www.cpsr.org/cpsr/privacy/ssn/ferpa.buckley.html .)

When the school is a private institution, your only recourse is to work with the administration to change the policy or at least to let you use an alternate identification number as your student ID.

Social Security numbers may be obtained by colleges and universities for students who have university jobs and/or receive federal financial aid.

Public schools, colleges and universities that ask for your SSN fall within the provisions of another federal law, the Privacy Act of 1974. This act requires such schools to provide a disclosure statement telling students how the Social Security number is used. If you are required to provide your SSN, be sure to look for the school's disclosure statement. If one is not offered, you may want to file a complaint with the school, citing the Privacy Act&quot;


student protest letter

 

[almostmakingit]

Nice Links...Thanks.

Excellent Protest Letter.. Was there ever any response?

I don't think the State Ed dept is safe under Ferpa Act..

That site is a Foil site... Freedom of Information site used by the general public.. There is no req. under Foil to release ss#.. In fact if you foil an agency you won't be allowed to get ss#'s..

What I found interesting with your links.. is that the senate knew that the ss# could and would be used.. and for some reason they felt the need to protect the citizenry..

This section was especially enlightening
Am I required to give my Social Security number to government agencies?

Last part... A Law with no teeth..
If you are asked to give your Social Security number to a government agency and no disclosure statement is included on the form, complain and cite the Privacy Act. Unfortunately, there appear to be no penalties when a government agency fails to provide a disclosure statement.

 

[Ferocious]

I don't like it when corporations pass my number around to other corporations.:|

 

[Bozo Galora]

After receiving a message on my phone answerer &quot;Hello, Mr. XXXXXXX, this is Sgt. Gonzales of the U.S. Army, please call me at xxx-xxxx as soon as possible, it is important&quot;, extremely puzzled to say the least, I called back and the conversation went as follows:

&quot;May I speak to Sgt. Gonzales&quot;
<hold on I'll page him>
&quot;Hello this is Sgt. Gonzales&quot;
&quot;Yes, my name is XXXXXXX, and I received an urgent call from you to get in touch with you&quot;
&quot;Well yes, I was wondering if you had thought about a rewarding career in the U.S. Army&quot;
(I am speechless for a few seconds)
&quot;Uh, wait a minute. You called me by name, and used an unlisted number of mine that I pay the phone co. an extra $1.50 mo. NOT to list. How did you get this info, and how did you target me as potential recruit?&quot;
&quot;Well, the US ARMY has many ways to accumulate public information&quot;
&quot;But I just told you my number is unlisted (and blocked)&quot;
&quot;Well, did you go to College recently?&quot;
&quot;Yes, I went to XXXXXX Community College, what does that have to do with this?&quot;
&quot;Well, thats one of the many places that we get our info&quot;
&quot;And how does that happen?&quot;
&quot;Well, we buy CD's from institutions that gives student info&quot;
&quot;Let me see if I got this straight - you buy a CD from XXXX College that has the names addresses phone numbers of all 12,000 students who go there&quot;
&quot;That is corect&quot;
&quot;Does it have SSN's?&quot;
&quot;Yes sir&quot;
&quot;How can they do that? Thats private info. That means there are copyable CD's floating around, maybe hundreds of them with all my personal info on them, including my salary and family info. Have you ever heard of something called identity theft? What if you are a burglar, and can call to see if I'm home?&quot;
&quot;Well sir, youre going to have to take that up with the College&quot;
&quot;Since you have all my personal info, Mr. Gonzales, before you hang up I have a pen here, and I feel at a disadvantage, so please give me your home address, age, race, private phone number, income, family status, educational status, where you graduated from HS, and SSN please!!
<he hangs up>

 

[almostmakingit]

Bozo Galora..

LOL...good for you..

I guess he didn't want to give you his info... but it's a.o.k. to get yours.. When will people realize... what happens to one...will happen to another..

 

[almostmakingit]

Just found this..
old but...The Good Guys Win One at Last

 

[Dually]

Yeah, he is a good guy. Its not surpising, how did you think the police found you.

 

[almostmakingit]

What police??