Anyone see Bowling for Columbine?

[Thegonagle]

Originally posted by: phantom309
I agree that Moore is somewhat of a propagandist. So's Rush Limbaugh. Both of them have to appeal to huge numbers of idiots in order to get their bills paid and their message heard. But buried underneath all the stupid partisan bullsh1t, both of them have some very valid things to say. That's why it's important to USE YOUR BRAIN when you listen to them, and decide for yourself what the truth is.

True, true, true!

 

[NesuD]

Originally posted by: pulse8
It's the new Michael Moore documentary. Looks fantastic!

Trailer

No thank you! being from the same hometown as Moore I am all to familiar with his ultra liberal view on things. I have read or viewed over 25 years of his writings and
staged documentaries. I do not need to view anymore of his leftist anti constitution drivel. The man is a blood sucking opportunist who has made himself rich and famous by filming all of the most negative things found in his hometown and making negative films about the area. I don't recall him ever using any of the money he has earned off the areas misfortune to to anything particularly substantive to help.

 

[Desslok]

One of the earlier posters said that Heston "...came off badly, old and febel..." Well if you get enough of anyone on film you can edit it to make them look badly.

Then another poster said "...They just gave him a gun after opening up an account with a 1000 dollars" So what? If you really wanted a gun all you have to do is go down to any city and ask around and you could get one for a hell of a lot less than the minimum that the bank was requiring. I fail to see how a bank giving away a gun if you opened an account with 500 dollars or more is a bad thing.

Moore always leaves out the details and plays on peoples emotons.

Of course it got rave reviews, all the movie reviewers are bleeding heart's and they want more gun control instead of enforcing the laws that are already on the books.

 

[pulse8]

One of the earlier posters said that Heston "...came off badly, old and febel..." Well if you get enough of anyone on film you can edit it to make them look badly.

Did you even see the film?

I agree that Moore is somewhat of a propagandist. So's Rush Limbaugh. Both of them have to appeal to huge numbers of idiots in order to get their bills paid and their message heard. But buried underneath all the stupid partisan bullsh1t, both of them have some very valid things to say. That's why it's important to USE YOUR BRAIN when you listen to them, and decide for yourself what the truth is.

Exactly. While I didn't agree with all of the points he made in the movie, he does bring up a very good overall point about the use of guns in this country. The whole point of the movie is to question why this country has about 11,000 deaths related to guns each year when other countries (not at war) don't even reach 100. I think it's a very interesting point.

 

[0roo0roo]

One of the earlier posters said that Heston "...came off badly, old and febel..." Well if you get enough of anyone on film you can edit it to make them look badly.

i have doubts you saw it. if not,(most likely from your ignorant statements) then your just speaking from ignorance. that or u don't know humor if it shot u in the nuts

your just assuming a lot. oh yea, the critics are bleeding hearts.. good lord get a grip. just because you percieve it to be anti your agenda you have to build up mental walls to protect yourself, how sad.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

One of the earlier posters said that Heston "...came off badly, old and febel..." Well if you get enough of anyone on film you can edit it to make them look badly.

i have doubts you saw it.

your just assuming a lot. oh yea, the critics are bleeding hearts.. good lord get a grip.

I think they are missing the idea that they aren't being much better than they claim Moore to be. They are just on the other side of the spectrum.

 

[Desslok]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

One of the earlier posters said that Heston "...came off badly, old and febel..." Well if you get enough of anyone on film you can edit it to make them look badly.

i have doubts you saw it. if not,(most likely from your ignorant statements) then your just speaking from ignorance. that or u don't know humor if it shot u in the nuts your just assuming a lot. oh yea, the critics are bleeding hearts.. good lord get a grip. just because you percieve it to be anti your agenda you have to build up mental walls to protect yourself, how sad.

No I haven't seen nor will I give Moore any of my money. The guy is a opportunist, he makes money off of other people's sorrow.

Prove me wrong on the citics being liberal and I will admit that I was.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Desslok

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

One of the earlier posters said that Heston "...came off badly, old and febel..." Well if you get enough of anyone on film you can edit it to make them look badly.

i have doubts you saw it. if not,(most likely from your ignorant statements) then your just speaking from ignorance. that or u don't know humor if it shot u in the nuts your just assuming a lot. oh yea, the critics are bleeding hearts.. good lord get a grip. just because you percieve it to be anti your agenda you have to build up mental walls to protect yourself, how sad.

No I haven't seen nor will I give Moore any of my money. The guy is a opportunist, he makes money off of other people's sorrow.

Prove me wrong on the citics being liberal and I will admit that I was.

seems to be the rule, every person b*tching about it hasn't seen it

how is he more of an opportunist then any journalist or media peeps reporting on anything dealing iwth suffering. atleast he doesn't feed bitter peoples righteous indigntion to make money like rush

how is he worse then the NRA that holds rallys after each school shootings professing ther love for guns. like we really need to hear that they love their guns. who the f*ck cares.. apparently they do


prove me wrong on the critics being moderate and i will admit that i was prove me wrong that they aren't communist! or wait, how about facist too. did you even read their reviews? did they say they whole heartedly agreed 100% with michael moore? sorry.. guess u don't read either best to stay in cocoon and assume

bullsh*t reasoning


i didn't agree with everything in the movie, he's pretty off on anything military, but it doesn't mean he doesn't have some valid points.

 

[Desslok]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: Desslok

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

One of the earlier posters said that Heston "...came off badly, old and febel..." Well if you get enough of anyone on film you can edit it to make them look badly.

i have doubts you saw it. if not,(most likely from your ignorant statements) then your just speaking from ignorance. that or u don't know humor if it shot u in the nuts your just assuming a lot. oh yea, the critics are bleeding hearts.. good lord get a grip. just because you percieve it to be anti your agenda you have to build up mental walls to protect yourself, how sad.

No I haven't seen nor will I give Moore any of my money. The guy is a opportunist, he makes money off of other people's sorrow. Prove me wrong on the citics being liberal and I will admit that I was.

seems to be the rule, every person b*tching about it hasn't seen it how is he more of an opportunist then any journalist or media peeps reporting on anything dealing iwth suffering. atleast he doesn't feed bitter peoples righteous indigntion to make money like rush how is he worse then the NRA that holds rallys after each school shootings professing ther love for guns. like we really need to hear that they love their guns. who the f*ck cares.. apparently they do prove me wrong on the critics being moderate and i will admit that i was prove me wrong that they aren't communist! or wait, how about facist too. did you even read their reviews? did they say they whole heartedly agreed 100% with michael moore? sorry.. guess u don't read either best to stay in cocoon and assume bullsh*t reasoning i didn't agree with everything in the movie, he's pretty off on anything military, but it doesn't mean he doesn't have some valid points.

See that is what I thought might happen you can't prove your point so you go off on a tangent to make yourself feel better. Wow and talk about a person that can debate a point! Look at this gem "guess you don't read either" Wow I bow to your intelllectual superiority.

 

[tcsenter]

how is he more of an opportunist then any journalist or media peeps reporting on anything dealing iwth suffering. at least he doesn't feed bitter peoples righteous indigntion to make money like rush

Oroo, do you have an objective neuron in your head? That is ALL Michael Moore does is feed people's righteous indignation. What the hell was 'Roger and Me' but an attempt to whip up righteous indignation against 'greedy evil corporations' and 'what it did to Flint'? What the hell is 80% of Micheal Moore's "open letters" if not an attempt to feed from and to bitter people's righteous indignation?

Michael Moore IS the left's version of Rush Limbaugh, you dope. Even the mainstream press uses descript terms like "muck-racking", "rabble-rousing", "sloppy journalist", "careless", "radical pundit", "fast and loose with the facts", and those are his liberal journalist buddies! They actually go on in many instances to compliment Moore, what do you know, because despite all of Moore's problems with accuracy and credibility, he makes a good point every now and then (where have we heard that before?).

how is he worse then the NRA that holds rallys after each school shootings professing ther love for guns.

The NRA doesn't hold rallys 'after each school shooting'. Of those rallies which have been held in some loose proximity to a highly publicized shooting, they are planned months in advance of the shooting. I've corrected your mischaracterization over and over, when are you going to get it?

like we really need to hear that they love their guns. who the f*ck cares.. apparently they do

Yep, like the 4,000+ people who attended the NRA rally in Flint. If you don't like the NRA rallies, don't go. The NRA's membership fluctuates between three and four million people, which makes it one of the largest member organizations in the United States.

i didn't agree with everything in the movie, he's pretty off on anything military, but it doesn't mean he doesn't have some valid points.

As I said earlier, of course Moore has *some* valid points, just as Rush Limbaugh has *some* valid points. H. Ross Perot has *some* valid points. Hell, for a few years, I lived above this drunken bigot with a 9th grade education. EVEN HE makes *some* valid points when he got drinking, ranting and raving about minorities and homosexuals.

What the hell kind of standard is "Sure, he is a scoundrel, a pathological liar, and a political radical...but he has 'some' valid points"? Since virtually every nutcase and cretin can manage to make a "valid point" from time to time, the standard is irrational because its universal and meaningless.

Hell a stopped clock is right twice every day.

 

[GoodRevrnd]

Hehe, I'm tempted to see this movie just so I can lay into it. Michael Moore has always amused me, but I don't think I've ever agreed with much of anything he's said.

I don't know if anyone has seen it, but he had this one documentary where he had a Fikejs run for mayor of D.C. The whole thing kinda meandered and lacked any substantial points, but it was pretty amusing.

 

[43st]

Originally posted by: GoodRevrnd
Hehe, I'm tempted to see this movie just so I can lay into it. Roger Moore has always amused me, but I don't think I've ever agreed with much of anything he's said.

I don't know if anyone has seen it, but he had this one documentary where he had a Fikejs run for mayor of D.C. The whole thing kinda meandered and lacked any substantial points, but it was pretty amusing.

Roger Moore huh? Since when has Roger Moore been politically active? I'd have to admit I'm not much of a fan of his either. His Bond years were, IMO, the worst Bond films of all time. But maybe that's just me.

 

[GoodRevrnd]

Originally posted by: Thera

Originally posted by: GoodRevrnd
Hehe, I'm tempted to see this movie just so I can lay into it. Roger Moore has always amused me, but I don't think I've ever agreed with much of anything he's said.

I don't know if anyone has seen it, but he had this one documentary where he had a Fikejs run for mayor of D.C. The whole thing kinda meandered and lacked any substantial points, but it was pretty amusing.

Roger Moore huh? Since when has Roger Moore been politically active? I'd have to admit I'm not much of a fan of his either. His Bond years were, IMO, the worst Bond films of all time. But maybe that's just me.

LMFAO! Well there's a slip. Ehehehe.

 

[Draco]

Originally posted by: DannyLove
just got back from watching it, and I have to say that it was entirely brilliant. The message was pretty straight forward, with soooo much truth involved. There were many little bits of humor which I found great (i especially found that bit on the cartoon of whites/blacks)

I recommend everyone to go see it, regardless of your view of gun control, maybe this can shade some light or darken it some more, but in the end, there is some truth. I'm very glad I saw this film. Made me think a lot on how f'cked up this world is. (and the sad part is, it's not getting any better)

danny~!

I just got back from seeing the movie earlier this evening and DannyLove shares my thoughts on it precisely. Maybe this will open the eyes of some people...