Anyone recently switch from PC to console?

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tential

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What I actually said.
But the real question comes down to, why should I buy a PS4/XboxOne now when I already own a gaming PC?

If I sell my current Graphics card for $100, and I would have spent $300+ on the PS4/XboxOne, I could instead purchase Crossfire R9 290s that were on sale for $200 each for a total of $400. So it doesn't make sense for me to purchase a PS4/XboxOne to me when currently, I'm playing games that are available on BOTH platforms. I could game at high fidelity on the R9 290s, or I could game at lower fidelity than I currently do.

I'd rather simply wait for the PS4/Xbox One to be cheaper, or purchase a better graphics card down the line. At their current price points, there isn't enough value to justify the purchase over my PC. They would simply do what my current consoles do which is collect dust.

What you quoted:
But the real question comes down to, why should I buy a PS4/XboxOne now when I already own a gaming PC?

Because you want to play Halo. Or NHL. Or Forza. Or Uncharted. Etc...

And if you don't want to play those games, and you are happy with only the games that the PC has to offer... Then, of course, YOU have no reason to buy a console.

It's all about the games.™
Please, read the full post, dont' selectively quote someone. Don't twist my words I said that the games I'm playing are on each platform.
 

Wingznut

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Sorry for the confusion... I selected only the first line of you quote for the sake of brevity, certainly not to "twist your words". As a matter of fact, I don't even see where I shed a negative light on what you said.

If you don't want to play the games that are exclusive on the consoles (i.e. Halo, NHL, Forza, Uncharted, etc.), there's no reason for you to buy a console.

My only point is that it's about the games.

Seems like we are in agreement, for the most part. *shrug*
 

tential

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Sorry for the confusion... I selected only the first line of you quote for the sake of brevity, certainly not to "twist your words". As a matter of fact, I don't even see where I shed a negative light on what you said.

If you don't want to play the games that are exclusive on the consoles (i.e. Halo, NHL, Forza, Uncharted, etc.), there's no reason for you to buy a console.

My only point is that it's about the games.

Seems like we are in agreement, for the most part. *shrug*

I misunderstood your wording. My fault.
 

sze5003

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I don't think many of us here switch to one machine or the other. Most people either have both pc and console or just one. Because I have all three I do flip flop between but its never for the same games.
 

HeXen

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Not really a switch but its easier to sneak in a game or two on the sofa. Both have their Pros/Cons.

I agree, it doesn't sound like much but little things make a difference on if you play or don't play. Like with the PS4 I can just grab the gamepad, push the button and it turns the PS4 on which in turn flips my TV on as well.

On PC I have to manually turn the PC and TV on..and then manually wake up my controller as well and then unfortunately it's often that I have to also turn on my media keyboard/trackpad to navigate UPlay..etc.
It's trivial but for whatever reason those differences have often been the deciding factor of whether to bother or not. If I'm into a PS4 game, I tend to play a lot more. On the PC I may go a couple weeks or better before I play it again.

But my main problem with gaming is I tend to find it more relaxing and just as entertaining to sit back with my laptop and veg out on the internet.
 

sze5003

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I agree, it doesn't sound like much but little things make a difference on if you play or don't play. Like with the PS4 I can just grab the gamepad, push the button and it turns the PS4 on which in turn flips my TV on as well.

On PC I have to manually turn the PC and TV on..and then manually wake up my controller as well and then unfortunately it's often that I have to also turn on my media keyboard/trackpad to navigate UPlay..etc.
It's trivial but for whatever reason those differences have often been the deciding factor of whether to bother or not. If I'm into a PS4 game, I tend to play a lot more. On the PC I may go a couple weeks or better before I play it again.

But my main problem with gaming is I tend to find it more relaxing and just as entertaining to sit back with my laptop and veg out on the internet.

What do you do to have the ps4 turn on the tv? Does the Xbox one do this too?
 

HeXen

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What do you do to have the ps4 turn on the tv? Does the Xbox one do this too?

I think you have to turn HDMI CEC on or something like that in the settings. For whatever stupid reason, graphics cards on the PC don't have it.
I don't know if the Xbox can do it but I would say it's likely. Most media devices these days do.
 

chimaxi83

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What do you do to have the ps4 turn on the tv? Does the Xbox one do this too?

I think you have to turn HDMI CEC on or something like that in the settings. For whatever stupid reason, graphics cards on the PC don't have it.
I don't know if the Xbox can do it but I would say it's likely. Most media devices these days do.

HDMI CEC settings is correct. Nice feature to have which should be standard on everything by now. PS4 can do it, Xbox One cannot.
 

cmdrdredd

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HDMI CEC settings is correct. Nice feature to have which should be standard on everything by now. PS4 can do it, Xbox One cannot.
The xb1 uses kinext IR blaster and can turn on your TV, cable box, and AVR. Can also choose to turn them off when you shut the console down if you want.

This is why I would never buy an xb1 without a kinect. You lose this functionality.
 

chimaxi83

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The xb1 uses kinext IR blaster and can turn on your TV, cable box, and AVR. Can also choose to turn them off when you shut the console down if you want.

This is why I would never buy an xb1 without a kinect. You lose this functionality.
Yeah that's true, didn't think of that. I bought a Kinect-less One :(
 

Aikouka

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The xb1 uses kinext IR blaster and can turn on your TV, cable box, and AVR. Can also choose to turn them off when you shut the console down if you want.

This is why I would never buy an xb1 without a kinect. You lose this functionality.

Problem is... HDMI-CEC on the PS4 works with my equipment, but the IR blaster on the X1 does not. I have no idea why not, but maybe it's telling because the Wii U's IR remote function doesn't work with my equipment either.

I think you have to turn HDMI CEC on or something like that in the settings. For whatever stupid reason, graphics cards on the PC don't have it.

An HDMI-CEC implementation on a computer requires quite a bit more than just a GPU that supports it. The last 'C' in the acronym gives it away: control. The GPU itself shouldn't be issuing commands but rather simply be a redirect for any commands issued by the CPU through the OS or software. There are two other things that come to mind as well...

Cost: Someone has to pay to implement the feature in the driver, develop software, etc. The problem is that the largest consumer of something like this is arguably... the HTPC crowd. You may disagree with that, and that's fine, but the HTPC crowd does not usually pay a lot for video cards.

Capability: One of the biggest issues with HDMI-CEC is that it's a mixed bag of functionality. The problem is that a manufacturer is free to implement whichever features they want and to implement them however they want. To give you an example, my LG TV will not turn on my AVR, but it will turn it off; however, my Vizio TV will turn on my AVR and also turn it off. How can they truly market this as a feature to the masses when the implementations are so darned random!?

Anyway, you can get this functionality on your PC if you really want it! However, it isn't a free thing to do. Pulse-Eight makes two devices that handle HDMI-CEC control with a PC. Most users would opt for the external unit, which acts as a pass-through with your HDMI and connects to the PC via USB for the CEC commands. There's also an internal unit; however, this one is only supported by Intel motherboards/products that have Intel's HTPC header (also called the "Custom Solutions header"), which actually includes the Intel Haswell NUCs.
 

cmdrdredd

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I dunno what specific equipment you have but most of the mainstream names are covered. Sony, Pioneer, Onkyo, Yamaha etc.. Someone did say on another forum that their Marantz receiver isn't supported by the XB1 but other models are listed when going through the XB1 setup. I assume this list gets updated over time, but don't know for sure.
 

Aikouka

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When I tried it, I had a Denon AVR-2112ci (replaced that with an x4000 now) and a Vizio M701. I'm pretty sure I had everything entered correctly, but nothing happened. I also went through all Vizio IR settings on the Wii U, and none of them worked. I wasn't sure if it was just the TV, because I have to be really specific about where I aim the actual remote for it to work. :p
 

dagamer34

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Console -> PC (2011->2013) -> Console (Xbox One).

End of last gen, console graphics were getting pretty long in the tooth. Ended up building a PC for Crysis 2, Tomb Raider, Crysis 3 and Bioshock Infinite. But then the Xbox One came out and I went back to buying games only on console, simply because I'm tired of the driver update crap, prefer to game on my couch, and absolutely do not want to think about fiddling with settings when playing a game.

I also feel that if you're gaming at 4K with max graphical fidelity, you'll always want that level of quality, and 2-3 years down the road, that means you've bought a new GPU costing you $500-ish (more than the price of a console). So in a 6-year console cycle, if you do that twice, you've spent a lot of money. Granted, you've gotten MUCH better graphics, but you've spent a lot of money.

For me, I prefer gaming on the couch, so I'm going to take advantage of the fact that I can sit 10 feet away, need less graphical detail for a similar effect and to top it iff, I will never look at PC gaming footage. Ignorance is bliss for me. :whiste:
 

Renob

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"Anyone recently switch from PC to console?"

why swith, just do both.... now if you are switching being its a money thing get off your lazy ass and earn more money :)
 

Rhezuss

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The PC will always be my #1 game platform and nowadays with how powerful cmoponents are, upgrading every year is a false statement. You can get a cool rig costing arounf what a console cost but do more stuff with it.

But the new gen is tempting and I saw a freind PS4 on his 50" TV and it looked really nice. I have a PS3 but don't game much with it, mostly use it from streaming and checking videos in the house network from my PC.

Other point for PC: Steam, GMG, GOG and other platform like that often sell games for a fraction of the price. Buying a new game on release day for 20-25% off is awesome and you won't see that coming to consoles soon.

So basically if you buy 5 games during a year:
- Console: 60x5 = $300
- PC-GMG rebate: (60x5) - 20% = $240
- PC if you wait a 50% sale = $150

So all this money after a year or two of savings can be thrown at an upgrade :p
 
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TeknoBug

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What do you do to have the ps4 turn on the tv? Does the Xbox one do this too?

Enable HDMI device link under system in settings. It's a wonderful feature.

And no XB1 doesn't have it, it relies on Kinnect and an IR sensor, which needs to be programmed (under TV settings).
 

Zodiark1593

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Nothing wrong with sticking with both. Depending on what I feel like, I mix it up between my laptop, the PS2, and the 3DS.
 

sourceninja

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I went from console to PC. I found that with steam sales and a xbox 360 controller I have a great experience and it ends up being cheaper.
 

cmdrdredd

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I went from console to PC. I found that with steam sales and a xbox 360 controller I have a great experience and it ends up being cheaper.

Except a PC with an OS costs more than a XB1 or PS4 and you can't trade in or sell your games to offset future game costs. That's the tradeoff
 

ImpulsE69

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Except a PC with an OS costs more than a XB1 or PS4 and you can't trade in or sell your games to offset future game costs. That's the tradeoff

Considering most of you kept saying how you were going all digital, I don't see how that plays into it.