Anyone read "The God Delusion"

[ElFenix]

science h logic you're the most annoying new troll this month!

 

[mugs]

Ah, now I know who you are... DVK916

 

[StatsManD]

What is with you people. I just asked a question about a book, I was thinking about reading.

 

[StatsManD]

Originally posted by: mugs
Ah, now I know who you are... DVK916

I really don't know who you are refering too.

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: StatsManD
What is with you people. I just asked a question about a book, I was thinking about reading.

You weren't asking a question per say. You were asking a loaded question in the hopes of creating a huge argument.

Troll :roll:

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: StatsManD

Originally posted by: mugs
Ah, now I know who you are... DVK916

I really don't know who you are refering too.

Sure you do. You make the same kind of posts he did, you sound like him, you demonstrate the same lack of reasoning ability when in an argument. You are DVK916.

 

[thehstrybean]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
What's wrong with believing in God? Why is it considered a "disease"?

Parkinsons, Alzheimers, Malaria, LSD etc. If it gives you hallucinations it's either a disease or a drug.

Have you ever actually spoken to a Christian?

Sure, there are many there watching the child molestation trials. I ask them why God let it happen and they don't know. I speak to a few when they're bombing abortion clinics. I ask them how killing doctors shows their views on the sanctity of human life. They don't know. I talk to a bunch who try to ban books. I ask them how censorship of what others can see and read is an homage to God's creation of free will. They don't know. I see plenty at hospitals while they're praying to God for a dying relative while simultaneusly using the finest technology science can offer and I ask them why they continue to try to block scienctific advances like stem cell research. They don't know. I've spoken to plenty, but can never seem to get any answers.

When was the last abortion clinic bombing?
And atheist trying to ban nativity scenes and end Christmas (*cough*Stats*cough*) is different than censoring free speech how?
What is wrong with using technology? I'm a Christian and I do...

It is important to realize that most of what you say comes from the conservative evangelical fundamentalist. Not all Christians are. I just love it when people are quick to point out that not all Muslims are terrorist (fundamentalist. And I know they aren't. I know plenty of peaceful Muslims), but no one jumps to point out that not all Christians are Bible-thumping fundamentalist.

1. Conservative evangelical fundamentalists NEVER ever condone bombing an abortion clinic.
2. Conservative evangelical fundamentalists invest, invent, and use technology to heal. There are some "Christians" called "Christian Scientists" that don't use medicine; they should be considered "Liberal" Christians.
3. A radical Muslim is inherently different from a radical Christian. A radical Muslim will take Koranic text literally and kill non-Muslims. A radical Christian will take the New Testament and interpret it to sell all his stuff, go on a mission, and turn the other cheek (live as Jesus did, always ask "WWJD")

1. OK, I guess this requires a defn of a evangelical fundamentalist that we can both agree on. These guys have always shown it. They blow up abortion clinics, and they're preachers. As a Christian, this disgust me and gives Christians a bad name.

2. Don't really see how we're at odds here. I agree that technology is used to help people. I would use it.

3. When you look at it, fundamentalist are the extreme side of the picture, thus unless you go back to the Crusades or use the <.00001 of bomber Christians, the extreme side are people like Westboro County Church.

 

[StatsManD]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: StatsManD

Originally posted by: mugs
Ah, now I know who you are... DVK916

I really don't know who you are refering too.

Sure you do. You make the same kind of posts he did, you sound like him, you demonstrate the same lack of reasoning ability when in an argument. You are DVK916.

:roll:

I just registered here a few days ago, so I really have no clue as to what you are talking about.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: StatsManD

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: StatsManD

Originally posted by: mugs
Ah, now I know who you are... DVK916

I really don't know who you are refering too.

Sure you do. You make the same kind of posts he did, you sound like him, you demonstrate the same lack of reasoning ability when in an argument. You are DVK916.

:roll:

I just registered here a few days ago, so I really have no clue as to what you are talking about.

Of course you did, because you were banned last time you were here. Shouldn't you be studying for the class you're failing rather than making flame-baiting posts on an Internet forum?

 

[StatsManD]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: StatsManD

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: StatsManD

Originally posted by: mugs
Ah, now I know who you are... DVK916

I really don't know who you are refering too.

Sure you do. You make the same kind of posts he did, you sound like him, you demonstrate the same lack of reasoning ability when in an argument. You are DVK916.

:roll:

I just registered here a few days ago, so I really have no clue as to what you are talking about.

Of course you did, because you were banned last time you were here. Shouldn't you be studying for the class you're failing rather than making flame-baiting posts on an Internet forum?

:roll:

Still have no idea who or what you are talking about.

 

[StatsManD]

Mugs must be a theist. No doubt his disease has corrupted his mind, and cause him to think delusional things. Like confusing me with DVK916.

 

[thehstrybean]

Originally posted by: StatsManD
Mugs must be a theist. No doubt his disease has corrupted his mind, and cause him to think delusional things. Like confusing me with DVK916.

No, looks like you're just a whiny ass who complains about his freedoms being trampled upon in one thread and goes about trampling on other freedoms the next.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: StatsManD
Mugs must be a theist. No doubt his disease has corrupted his mind, and cause him to think delusional things. Like confusing me with DVK916.

I :heart: you :lips:

 

[randay]

im an atheist and i think religion is useless, and yet, i am praying to god right now that this statsmand guy gets banned soon.

 

[thehstrybean]

Originally posted by: randay
im an atheist and i think religion is useless, and yet, i am praying to god right now that this statsmand guy gets banned soon.

I agree with you on the last half, but thankfully we have freedoms to believe everything!




And of course, Statsmand is so very tolerant to everyone's freedoms...

 

[meltdown75]

Hilarious how some people get a big shiny one when it comes time to bash other people's beliefs. These, above all others, need to get a fscking life.

Seriously... the WoW addicts out there have their priorities more in line than these idiots.

Ban them all.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
What's wrong with believing in God? Why is it considered a "disease"?

Parkinsons, Alzheimers, Malaria, LSD etc. If it gives you hallucinations it's either a disease or a drug.

Have you ever actually spoken to a Christian?

Sure, there are many there watching the child molestation trials. I ask them why God let it happen and they don't know. I speak to a few when they're bombing abortion clinics. I ask them how killing doctors shows their views on the sanctity of human life. They don't know. I talk to a bunch who try to ban books. I ask them how censorship of what others can see and read is an homage to God's creation of free will. They don't know. I see plenty at hospitals while they're praying to God for a dying relative while simultaneusly using the finest technology science can offer and I ask them why they continue to try to block scienctific advances like stem cell research. They don't know. I've spoken to plenty, but can never seem to get any answers.

When was the last abortion clinic bombing?
And atheist trying to ban nativity scenes and end Christmas (*cough*Stats*cough*) is different than censoring free speech how?
What is wrong with using technology? I'm a Christian and I do...

It is important to realize that most of what you say comes from the conservative evangelical fundamentalist. Not all Christians are. I just love it when people are quick to point out that not all Muslims are terrorist (fundamentalist. And I know they aren't. I know plenty of peaceful Muslims), but no one jumps to point out that not all Christians are Bible-thumping fundamentalist.

1. Conservative evangelical fundamentalists NEVER ever condone bombing an abortion clinic.
2. Conservative evangelical fundamentalists invest, invent, and use technology to heal. There are some "Christians" called "Christian Scientists" that don't use medicine; they should be considered "Liberal" Christians.
3. A radical Muslim is inherently different from a radical Christian. A radical Muslim will take Koranic text literally and kill non-Muslims. A radical Christian will take the New Testament and interpret it to sell all his stuff, go on a mission, and turn the other cheek (live as Jesus did, always ask "WWJD")

1. OK, I guess this requires a defn of a evangelical fundamentalist that we can both agree on. These guys have always shown it. They blow up abortion clinics, and they're preachers. As a Christian, this disgust me and gives Christians a bad name.

2. Don't really see how we're at odds here. I agree that technology is used to help people. I would use it.

3. When you look at it, fundamentalist are the extreme side of the picture, thus unless you go back to the Crusades or use the <.00001 of bomber Christians, the extreme side are people like Westboro County Church.

First of all, the Crusades was a military response to the Islamic conquest. Modern liberals cleverly use this as political fodder against Christians.

Second, Christianity does not endorse murder. Technically, a murderer that believes Christ is a savior is still a Christian. But Atheists, Agnostics, and every religion in the world has murderers. It's just that the media and liberals love to use this as political fodder to discount Christianity.

Third, a Christian that kills in the name of Christianity is an oxymoron, because Jesus never taught to murder. In fact, he says to love your neighbor and turn the other cheek. However, a Muslim that kills in the name of Islam is justified THROUGH the endorsement of Islam, through direct and explicit text in the Koran that encourages conversion through the sword. So saying that most Muslims are peaceful is a moot point, because they are indirectly supporting islamic terror through monetary and moral support.

 

[mugs]

I'll humor you and comment on the book.

Taken from wikipedia:

In his preface, Dawkins writes that The God Delusion contains four "consciousness-raising" messages:

* Atheists can be happy, balanced, moral, and intellectually fulfilled.

Not sure who would disagree with that one.

* Natural selection and other scientific theories are superior to a "God hypothesis" in explaining the living world and perhaps even the cosmos.

I agree

* Children should not be labelled by their parents' religion. Terms like "Catholic child" or "Muslim child" should make people flinch.

Can't argue with that.

* Atheists should be proud, not apologetic, because atheism is evidence of a healthy, independent mind.[5]

And here is where he lost all credibility with me. Didn't even have to go past the preface! The fact that a person is an atheist does not (independently) tell you anything about them other than that they are an atheist. It says nothing of how they came to be an atheist. Can you say that a person has a "healthy, independent mind" if they're an atheist simply because their parents are? Based on that alone, no I don't think you can. I have no respect for anyone who blindly follows any religious belief, be it atheistic or theistic.

 

[aidanjm]

it's a great read! it is sold out at my local Borders.

 

[thehstrybean]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
What's wrong with believing in God? Why is it considered a "disease"?

Parkinsons, Alzheimers, Malaria, LSD etc. If it gives you hallucinations it's either a disease or a drug.

Have you ever actually spoken to a Christian?

Sure, there are many there watching the child molestation trials. I ask them why God let it happen and they don't know. I speak to a few when they're bombing abortion clinics. I ask them how killing doctors shows their views on the sanctity of human life. They don't know. I talk to a bunch who try to ban books. I ask them how censorship of what others can see and read is an homage to God's creation of free will. They don't know. I see plenty at hospitals while they're praying to God for a dying relative while simultaneusly using the finest technology science can offer and I ask them why they continue to try to block scienctific advances like stem cell research. They don't know. I've spoken to plenty, but can never seem to get any answers.

When was the last abortion clinic bombing?
And atheist trying to ban nativity scenes and end Christmas (*cough*Stats*cough*) is different than censoring free speech how?
What is wrong with using technology? I'm a Christian and I do...

It is important to realize that most of what you say comes from the conservative evangelical fundamentalist. Not all Christians are. I just love it when people are quick to point out that not all Muslims are terrorist (fundamentalist. And I know they aren't. I know plenty of peaceful Muslims), but no one jumps to point out that not all Christians are Bible-thumping fundamentalist.

1. Conservative evangelical fundamentalists NEVER ever condone bombing an abortion clinic.
2. Conservative evangelical fundamentalists invest, invent, and use technology to heal. There are some "Christians" called "Christian Scientists" that don't use medicine; they should be considered "Liberal" Christians.
3. A radical Muslim is inherently different from a radical Christian. A radical Muslim will take Koranic text literally and kill non-Muslims. A radical Christian will take the New Testament and interpret it to sell all his stuff, go on a mission, and turn the other cheek (live as Jesus did, always ask "WWJD")

1. OK, I guess this requires a defn of a evangelical fundamentalist that we can both agree on. These guys have always shown it. They blow up abortion clinics, and they're preachers. As a Christian, this disgust me and gives Christians a bad name.

2. Don't really see how we're at odds here. I agree that technology is used to help people. I would use it.

3. When you look at it, fundamentalist are the extreme side of the picture, thus unless you go back to the Crusades or use the <.00001 of bomber Christians, the extreme side are people like Westboro County Church.

First of all, the Crusades was a military response to the Islamic conquest. Modern liberals cleverly use this as political fodder against Christians.

Second, Christianity does not endorse murder. Technically, a murderer that believes Christ is a savior is still a Christian. But Atheists, Agnostics, and every religion in the world has murderers. It's just that the media and liberals love to use this as political fodder to discount Christianity.

Third, a Christian that kills in the name of Christianity is an oxymoron, because Jesus never taught to murder. In fact, he says to love your neighbor and turn the other cheek. However, a Muslim that kills in the name of Islam is justified THROUGH the endorsement of Islam, through direct and explicit text in the Koran that encourages conversion through the sword. So saying that most Muslims are peaceful is a moot point, because they are indirectly supporting islamic terror through monetary and moral support.

Woa. I'm a Christian too. I'm just sayin that the most common thing I hear is the Crusades.

I know about the Golden Rule and that one of the 10 Comman. is "Thou Shalt Not Kill", but when a man blows up a bomb at an abortion clinic and says that it is God's will, it can give Christians overall a black eye.

I don't necessarily agree with you that a peaceful Muslims who expresses disgust with terrorist is supporting them. But to each his own.

 

[NL5]

Originally posted by: JS80
3. A radical Muslim is inherently different from a radical Christian. A radical Muslim will take Koranic text literally and kill non-Muslims. A radical Christian will take the New Testament and interpret it to sell all his stuff, go on a mission, and turn the other cheek (live as Jesus did, always ask "WWJD")

You really should read up on history - or pick up a current newspaper for that matter. You are severely mis-informed.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
What's wrong with believing in God? Why is it considered a "disease"?

Parkinsons, Alzheimers, Malaria, LSD etc. If it gives you hallucinations it's either a disease or a drug.

Have you ever actually spoken to a Christian?

Sure, there are many there watching the child molestation trials. I ask them why God let it happen and they don't know. I speak to a few when they're bombing abortion clinics. I ask them how killing doctors shows their views on the sanctity of human life. They don't know. I talk to a bunch who try to ban books. I ask them how censorship of what others can see and read is an homage to God's creation of free will. They don't know. I see plenty at hospitals while they're praying to God for a dying relative while simultaneusly using the finest technology science can offer and I ask them why they continue to try to block scienctific advances like stem cell research. They don't know. I've spoken to plenty, but can never seem to get any answers.

When was the last abortion clinic bombing?
And atheist trying to ban nativity scenes and end Christmas (*cough*Stats*cough*) is different than censoring free speech how?
What is wrong with using technology? I'm a Christian and I do...

It is important to realize that most of what you say comes from the conservative evangelical fundamentalist. Not all Christians are. I just love it when people are quick to point out that not all Muslims are terrorist (fundamentalist. And I know they aren't. I know plenty of peaceful Muslims), but no one jumps to point out that not all Christians are Bible-thumping fundamentalist.

1. Conservative evangelical fundamentalists NEVER ever condone bombing an abortion clinic.
2. Conservative evangelical fundamentalists invest, invent, and use technology to heal. There are some "Christians" called "Christian Scientists" that don't use medicine; they should be considered "Liberal" Christians.
3. A radical Muslim is inherently different from a radical Christian. A radical Muslim will take Koranic text literally and kill non-Muslims. A radical Christian will take the New Testament and interpret it to sell all his stuff, go on a mission, and turn the other cheek (live as Jesus did, always ask "WWJD")

1. OK, I guess this requires a defn of a evangelical fundamentalist that we can both agree on. These guys have always shown it. They blow up abortion clinics, and they're preachers. As a Christian, this disgust me and gives Christians a bad name.

2. Don't really see how we're at odds here. I agree that technology is used to help people. I would use it.

3. When you look at it, fundamentalist are the extreme side of the picture, thus unless you go back to the Crusades or use the <.00001 of bomber Christians, the extreme side are people like Westboro County Church.

First of all, the Crusades was a military response to the Islamic conquest. Modern liberals cleverly use this as political fodder against Christians.

Second, Christianity does not endorse murder. Technically, a murderer that believes Christ is a savior is still a Christian. But Atheists, Agnostics, and every religion in the world has murderers. It's just that the media and liberals love to use this as political fodder to discount Christianity.

Third, a Christian that kills in the name of Christianity is an oxymoron, because Jesus never taught to murder. In fact, he says to love your neighbor and turn the other cheek. However, a Muslim that kills in the name of Islam is justified THROUGH the endorsement of Islam, through direct and explicit text in the Koran that encourages conversion through the sword. So saying that most Muslims are peaceful is a moot point, because they are indirectly supporting islamic terror through monetary and moral support.

Woa. I'm a Christian too. I'm just sayin that the most common thing I hear is the Crusades.

I know about the Golden Rule and that one of the 10 Comman. is "Thou Shalt Not Kill", but when a man blows up a bomb at an abortion clinic and says that it is God's will, it can give Christians overall a black eye.

I don't necessarily agree with you that a peaceful Muslims who expresses disgust with terrorist is supporting them. But to each his own.

Sorry if I confused you but it was more like I was addressing my opinion expanding on yours, not debating you.

However, I disagree about your last part. A Muslim who is supposedly disgusted with terrorism but does nothing to try to change their brethren is indirectly supporting Islamic Terror. Honestly, if Islam was truly a RoP, there would be a Civil War in Islam to root out the evil ones. However, after studying the Koran, I see that as unlikely.

 

[Dumac]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: thehstrybean

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
What's wrong with believing in God? Why is it considered a "disease"?

Parkinsons, Alzheimers, Malaria, LSD etc. If it gives you hallucinations it's either a disease or a drug.

Have you ever actually spoken to a Christian?

Sure, there are many there watching the child molestation trials. I ask them why God let it happen and they don't know. I speak to a few when they're bombing abortion clinics. I ask them how killing doctors shows their views on the sanctity of human life. They don't know. I talk to a bunch who try to ban books. I ask them how censorship of what others can see and read is an homage to God's creation of free will. They don't know. I see plenty at hospitals while they're praying to God for a dying relative while simultaneusly using the finest technology science can offer and I ask them why they continue to try to block scienctific advances like stem cell research. They don't know. I've spoken to plenty, but can never seem to get any answers.

When was the last abortion clinic bombing?
And atheist trying to ban nativity scenes and end Christmas (*cough*Stats*cough*) is different than censoring free speech how?
What is wrong with using technology? I'm a Christian and I do...

It is important to realize that most of what you say comes from the conservative evangelical fundamentalist. Not all Christians are. I just love it when people are quick to point out that not all Muslims are terrorist (fundamentalist. And I know they aren't. I know plenty of peaceful Muslims), but no one jumps to point out that not all Christians are Bible-thumping fundamentalist.

1. Conservative evangelical fundamentalists NEVER ever condone bombing an abortion clinic.
2. Conservative evangelical fundamentalists invest, invent, and use technology to heal. There are some "Christians" called "Christian Scientists" that don't use medicine; they should be considered "Liberal" Christians.
3. A radical Muslim is inherently different from a radical Christian. A radical Muslim will take Koranic text literally and kill non-Muslims. A radical Christian will take the New Testament and interpret it to sell all his stuff, go on a mission, and turn the other cheek (live as Jesus did, always ask "WWJD")

1. OK, I guess this requires a defn of a evangelical fundamentalist that we can both agree on. These guys have always shown it. They blow up abortion clinics, and they're preachers. As a Christian, this disgust me and gives Christians a bad name.

2. Don't really see how we're at odds here. I agree that technology is used to help people. I would use it.

3. When you look at it, fundamentalist are the extreme side of the picture, thus unless you go back to the Crusades or use the <.00001 of bomber Christians, the extreme side are people like Westboro County Church.

First of all, the Crusades was a military response to the Islamic conquest. Modern liberals cleverly use this as political fodder against Christians.

Second, Christianity does not endorse murder. Technically, a murderer that believes Christ is a savior is still a Christian. But Atheists, Agnostics, and every religion in the world has murderers. It's just that the media and liberals love to use this as political fodder to discount Christianity.

Third, a Christian that kills in the name of Christianity is an oxymoron, because Jesus never taught to murder. In fact, he says to love your neighbor and turn the other cheek. However, a Muslim that kills in the name of Islam is justified THROUGH the endorsement of Islam, through direct and explicit text in the Koran that encourages conversion through the sword. So saying that most Muslims are peaceful is a moot point, because they are indirectly supporting islamic terror through monetary and moral support.

You, JS80, are just as much of a bigot as the OP.

Btw, I'm an agnostic.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: NL5

Originally posted by: JS80
3. A radical Muslim is inherently different from a radical Christian. A radical Muslim will take Koranic text literally and kill non-Muslims. A radical Christian will take the New Testament and interpret it to sell all his stuff, go on a mission, and turn the other cheek (live as Jesus did, always ask "WWJD")

You really should read up on history - or pick up a current newspaper for that matter. You are severely mis-informed.

Radical Christian = interprets Jesus's words literally and lives as Jesus did.
Liberal Christian = bends Jesus's words and somehow interprets to be "can't use medicine," or "kill 1 baby killer, save 1000 babies"

Radical Muslim = kill the infidel
Liberal Muslim = interprets Koran's urge for jihad as self-struggle

Radical Christian + Liberal Muslim = Peace

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: Dumac
You, JS80, are just as much of a bigot as the OP.

Btw, I'm an agnostic.

How am I a bigot?