Anyone planning on buying an Apple computer sometime?

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hopejr

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Originally posted by: Gurck
OS alone doesn't make them appealing to me. I wouldn't buy a Mac for a lot of reasons...

- All the software I own is for the PC
- I already know how PCs work
- I like games
- I like to easily tweak my system
- I like to cheaply upgrade my system
- I like to easily build my own systems
- I like to spend (far) less for similar performance
- I refuse to buy products for which the majority of the purchase price goes toward advertising or brand image creation & maintenance

These are perfectly valid reasons for not switching, except for the last one. I don't know about where you live, but in Australia, the only Apple ads I've seen are iPod Shuffle ads on TV, and I only ever see them once a day, and usually after 8pm.
 

phisrow

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I'd rather fancy a mini to play about with; but the reports that it is already failing to support rather useful OS features(e.g. Expose) without horrible stuttering make me want to wait for a slightly snappier refresh. Apple, to their credit, does seem aggressive about building useful UI features, which is a difficult game. And they do have some rather cute hardware.

I don't think that I would actually end up with one for serious use, though, for a few reasons. Their desktop kit is too expensive for the sort of user I am. If I was interested in Ilife, its existence would sweeten the deal considerably. If I was running Windows and having trouble keeping it clean and running smoothly, OSX's stability and security would sweeten the deal. However, neither of these conditions hold. This makes Apple desktops pretty expensive, on the whole.

The laptops are a much better value, hardware wise; but suffer from a couple of defects that would annoy me horribly. One is the pointing device. I'm very much used to having a trackpoint and three mouse buttons at my command, and not having to depend on an external mouse for my laptop. Even the nicest Apple portable has a ghastly input setup, touchpad only and one button burns the soul. Also, the panels, while very nice in terms of colour quality and veiwing angle, have oddly low resolutions. 1400 by 1050 and even 1600 by 1200 is entirely unexceptional in x86 land, even on smallish screens(my 14.1inch, 1400 by 1050 is hardly unusual). Powerbooks cannot be had, at any price, with resolution higher than 1440 by 900, and that is the 17inch model. The 15 inch sports a comparatively pathetic 1280 by 854. Those are the deal killers for me(and the reasons that I'm not typing this on a Powerbook right now, in fact).

Their Cinema displays are elegant indeed; but also don't suit me personally. The 30 inch is too expensive for me(please note, I fully agree that it is competitive with others of its class, I just cannot afford any of them). The 23 and 20 inch displays are hard for me to get excited about compared to Dell's. Do they make the Dell attempt at industrial design look like cheap, tawdry, plastic tinsel? Sure. Do they cost hundreds more, lack hardware controls, lack any sort of analog inputs, and have far less adjustable stands? Certainly so.

Their server line, while good looking, and likely to benefit from the G5's fairly good instructions/watt ratio, is not the fit for me. They have nothing at all in the entry level server department(where I would likely be doing most of my spending, as I need lots of disk; but not all that much crunching power), and when you can get a fairly well tricked out dual Xenon or Opteron system for what the entry level Xserve costs, it is somewhat hard to justify.

Please do note, this isn't intended as a screed against Apple. I like them rather a lot more since they gave up on their ghastly pre X OSs and I fully admit that they make some very cute hardware. I would fully consider recommending their entry level kit, by reason of the operating system, to people who don't have the skills needed to keep Windows from getting 0wn3d every five minutes or to set up Linux.I just don't think that it suits me, for the reasons above described.
 

imported_Lucifer

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Originally posted by: Baked
Not gonna upgrade anytime soon, Mac OS or Mac system. Very happy w/ my current G5 Dual 2 GHz running 10.3.9 w/ 2GB RAM.

Lucky bastard. :p I am still on a 400mhz G4 tower. :):p
 

Away

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I like the ability of building my own computer. Can't due that with a Mac. Plus I don't have a problem with Windows 2000. Probably more stable than Mac OS.
 
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SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: Away
I like the ability of building my own computer. Can't due that with a Mac. Plus I don't have a problem with Windows 2000. Probably more stable than Mac OS.


I don't know about it being MORE stable, but they do run a close race.
 

stimpy1

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They're just to expensive to justify the cost unless your doing something intensive that an Apple would excel at much more so than a PC.