Anyone own the new Sabertooth P67 board?

[janas19]

I LOVE the look of this board, it looks fabulous! This is my "goal" board, first I plan on buying a Gigabyte H61 and then upgrading later, when the price drops (I'm hoping sooner than later lol). But in the meantime, someone tell me about it, what you like about it, I know it's awesome!!

 

[mfenn]

Not knowing what you plan to do with the computer, I can't say whether or not a $200 mobo is a good idea or not. Most likely not though.

 

[janas19]

I'll tell you why I have my eye on the Sabertooth p67. I want to eventually purchase an i5-2500k processor, and then looking at a possible 2nd Ivy Bridge upgrade after that. The p67 is the 1155 platform which would support both of those. It looks very well constructed, has stellar reviews, and it is guaranteed by a 5 year warranty. My criteria for choosing a motherboard was something that could play games comfortably, quality built, and hopefully last for at least two years with what's coming out in the mainstream video game industry. I'm not talking about extreme games like BF3 on 60 fps.. Given that the 775 platform has maintained its relevance for a number of years, don't you think it's reasonable to expect that a high end board like the p67 will do the same.

Now, I tend to totally agree that the price of the p67 is a Tad high but I think it will eventually drop, plus, the thing just looks awesome IMO

 

[Anomaly1964]

I have one...

...uber cool looking!

 

[janas19]

How do you like it? I bet it's nice, huh?

 

[mfenn]

I'll tell you why I have my eye on the Sabertooth p67. I want to eventually purchase an i5-2500k processor, and then looking at a possible 2nd Ivy Bridge upgrade after that. The p67 is the 1155 platform which would support both of those. It looks very well constructed, has stellar reviews, and it is guaranteed by a 5 year warranty. My criteria for choosing a motherboard was something that could play games comfortably, quality built, and hopefully last for at least two years with what's coming out in the mainstream video game industry. I'm not talking about extreme games like BF3 on 60 fps.. Given that the 775 platform has maintained its relevance for a number of years, don't you think it's reasonable to expect that a high end board like the p67 will do the same.

Now, I tend to totally agree that the price of the p67 is a Tad high but I think it will eventually drop, plus, the thing just looks awesome IMO

None of the things that you listed require a $200 motherboard. In fact, buying one would be detrimental to your goals. A $100 ASRock Z68 Pro3 plus a $200 processor will perform much better than a $200 mobo and a $100 processor.

 

[janas19]

You think the Sabertooth would be excessive for the i5-2500k? What kind of setup (generally speaking) would warrant this board? What mono/CPU do you use?

 

[janas19]

None of the thinks that you listed require a $200 motherboard. In fact, buying one would be detrimental to your goals. A $100 ASRock Z68 Pro3 plus a $200 processor will perform much better than a $200 mobo and a $100 processor.

Thanks man, I didn't even know that.

 

[MacLeod1592]

I dont really have a problem with spending a lot on a motherboard. I wish I had when I built this rig a couple years ago. I have a solid, midrange ASRock 780G board right now and while its been great and never given me any trouble, its also not a very good overclocker. I wish Id spent $100 more to get something like the Sabertooth that is more bulletproof so I could have a little more fun overclocking and wouldnt be looking for an upgrade right about now.

I also dont mind it cause its the foundation of your entire rig not to mention its the hardest and biggest pain in the ass component to replace in your rig. Now Im not saying you need to go out and buy a $300 motherboard, but something like the $180 Sabertooth (990FX = $200 P67) is worth it in my opinion. I view it like power supplies. Skimp on a cheap power supply now, youll pay for it later.

Now if youre not going to be doing any overclocking or anything like that then the bulletproofness of such a board would be wasted on you and a lesser board would be just fine, but even then, I wouldnt want to skimp too much. I think anything over $100 is about right. Under that and youre making too many trade offs in quality parts to get to that low price.

 

[mfenn]

Now if youre not going to be doing any overclocking or anything like that then the bulletproofness of such a board would be wasted on you and a lesser board would be just fine, but even then, I wouldnt want to skimp too much. I think anything over $100 is about right. Under that and youre making too many trade offs in quality parts to get to that low price.

The days of needing a fancy mobo to OC are long over. A $100-130 board can get an i5 2500K to 4.4-4.6. no problem. In fact, buying an expensive mobo just to overclock kind of defeats the purpose of overclocking. If you spend a bunch of money on a fancy mobo and a sub-par CPU, you will be forced to overclock to get your money's worth. Why not just buy a normal mobo and a better CPU and not have to overclock as much or at all.

 

[mfenn]

You think the Sabertooth would be excessive for the i5-2500k? What kind of setup (generally speaking) would warrant this board?

Pretty much nothing to be honest. It is about $70 too expensive for a dual-GPU board and isn't even tri-GPU capable.

 

[BoomerD]

The days of needing a fancy mobo to OC are long over. A $100-130 board can get an i5 2500K to 4.4-4.6. no problem. In fact, buying an expensive mobo just to overclock kind of defeats the purpose of overclocking. If you spend a bunch of money on a fancy mobo and a sub-par CPU, you will be forced to overclock to get your money's worth. Why not just buy a normal mobo and a better CPU and not have to overclock as much or at all.

While I suppose you're right, in my experience, "budget boards" are usually less dependable. I've never had any luck with them over the years. Yes, "premium boards" are overpriced and usually contain components that I don't need...but I've never had a premium board crap out on me...while almost every budget board I've ever owned did.

I DO agree that a "premium board" should be paired with a premium CPU...and if you're going that far, add a better-than-average CPU cooler and quality RAM.

(no, I don't think all RAM is built to the same standards)

 

[mfenn]

While I suppose you're right, in my experience, "budget boards" are usually less dependable. I've never had any luck with them over the years. Yes, "premium boards" are overpriced and usually contain components that I don't need...but I've never had a premium board crap out on me...while almost every budget board I've ever owned did.

I DO agree that a "premium board" should be paired with a premium CPU...and if you're going that far, add a better-than-average CPU cooler and quality RAM.

There are a lot of good motherboards in between "premium" and "budget". We're not talking about cut down $60 boards here. A $130 board is just as well build as a $200 board IMHO, just with fewer fancy extras. Hell, a lot of times a $130 board and a $200 board have the same PCB and come of the same assembly line. You can usually even see the unused solder pads where the 1394 controller, USB 3.0 controller, extra SATA controller, etc. would have gone.

(no, I don't think all RAM is built to the same standards)

Boomer, I didn't know that you liked those bling bling heatspeaders so much. :awe:

 

[janas19]

Mfenn, you're mainly right, the $130 dollar motherboards are probably perfect in performance and value for most mainstream applications. I don't disagree, not at all. The reason I would pay an extra $70 dollars for the Sabertooth? (Sheerly for the sake of argument OK) : dependability and quality components. The sabertooth is Asus and has a 5 year Mfr warranty. That means they stand behind it. I like things that are made well and highly engineered. That's why I buy Samsung, Intel, and Toyota, not AMD or OCZ.

 

[mfenn]

Mfenn, you're mainly right, the $130 dollar motherboards are probably perfect in performance and value for most mainstream applications. I don't disagree, not at all. The reason I would pay an extra $70 dollars for the Sabertooth? (Sheerly for the sake of argument OK) : dependability and quality components. The sabertooth is Asus and has a 5 year Mfr warranty. That means they stand behind it. I like things that are made well and highly engineered. That's why I buy Samsung, Intel, and Toyota, not AMD or OCZ.

Uhh, what? Name one part in the ASRock Extreme3 or ASUS P8Z68-V LE (similar price) that is low quality. Remember that the more bells and whistles means more things to break, so a high-end board has a lower expectation of every feature working perfectly.

To continue your car analogy: a $130 board is to a Camry as a $200 board is to a Ferrari. Guess which one will have been to the shop fewer times after 100,000 miles?

 

[MacLeod1592]

I guess it depends on what you consider spending a lot on a board. I totally agree that there isnt much need to drop $300 on a motherboard, but $100-200 is about right. Higher end boards will be more stable than lower end boards because theyre using better parts. Obviously this isnt true across the board but generally, you spend $175 on a motherboard, chances are pretty good that its going to be a very solid board.

And like I said, if youre not overclocking and stressing your components then you dont need the added durability of a Sabertooth or whatever. But if you are an avid overclocker, that extra beef is nice to have around.

But then to contradict my own point, my trusty little $90 ASRock board has been a champ. Ive had 4 different procs on it over the years and overclocked the crap out of all of them with voltages getting up to 1.6, countless hours of Prime95, video card overclocking and benchmarks and has crashed about a billion times while doing stability tests. Every time, it fires right back up like nothing happened.

 

[janas19]

Can't really think of any part on an Asrock that is low quality. You're right. Sure, there are some 300 dollar boards that are probably just the same as a budget board but with extra components tacked on. I'm definitely weary of any board that has, like, 8 slots of every damn thing you can imagine XD

Thanks for your input man, you give really good advice. Maybe the Sabertooth is overkill.

 

[janas19]

I don't know. I like the idea of having a cheap "beater" that does the job well with no frills, but at the end of the day I also want something that I'm not worried will crap out for no apparent reason, like some cheap boards do.

I keep using car analogies, sorry

 

[mfenn]

So basically, you want a new model Toyota Camry, i.e. the ASUS P8Z68-V LE. Not a POS like a Geo Metro and not expensive as hell like an Aston Martin DB9.

 

[janas19]

So basically, you want a new model Toyota Camry, i.e. the ASUS P8Z68-V LE. Not a POS like a Geo Metro and not expensive as hell like an Aston Martin DB9.

Yeah, that's probably right. I'm sorry though, I was still getting my thoughts together on a new build when I created this thread, so I guess my ideas were a little half-baked. You made me realize something: never pay more for your motherboard than a processor. So thanks, I have a much clearer understanding now of what I want. I started a new thread for a proper budget build, I welcome you to chip in there too.

 

[mfenn]

Yeah, that's probably right. I'm sorry though, I was still getting my thoughts together on a new build when I created this thread, so I guess my ideas were a little half-baked. You made me realize something: never pay more for your motherboard than a processor. So thanks, I have a much clearer understanding now of what I want. I started a new thread for a proper budget build, I welcome you to chip in there too.

:thumbsup: to the bolded!

 

[volcane]

How about: "Never pay more for your CPU cooler than a processor" ?