Anyone on AT who follows the Hurd?

[janas19]

Just like the title says. We hear from the Windows, OSX, Linux, and (rarely) BSD communities. Hurd users, represent!

 

[janas19]

Bump

 

[ViRGE]

I seriously doubt it. Linux may not be GNU, but it seems to have filled the role well enough. I haven't heard anything new on Hurd in ages.

 

[janas19]

I seriously doubt it. Linux may not be GNU, but it seems to have filled the role well enough. I haven't heard anything new on Hurd in ages.

Man, that sucks. I was reading about it online and got pretty excited about the microkernel idea, and how all the system processes are server-client, not monolithic like Linux. Right now, the Linux kernel size is growing exponentially. That's somewhat unsettling since most of the OS should be GNU packages, not the kernel itself.

So no one uses Hurd outside of CS labs? I thought at least some versions were developments with rolling releases.

 

[Jodell88]

I'm also interested in microkernels and how they'll perform in the real world. Unfortynately, I don't think the HURD will ever be completed, and even if it was, it's not going to gain much traction.

There are a few distros you can try with the HURD. Debian HURD and Arch HURD.

 

[Chiropteran]

Man, that sucks. I was reading about it online and got pretty excited about the microkernel idea, and how all the system processes are server-client, not monolithic like Linux. Right now, the Linux kernel size is growing exponentially. That's somewhat unsettling since most of the OS should be GNU packages, not the kernel itself.

I read the same things and had the same thoughts, 15 years ago.

Nothing has changed. I'd be amazed if it's actually released in the next 10 years.



Actually, something has changed. I've realized linux is fine, and while a microkernel sounds like a cool idea it's not really needed if linux can run fine on a tiny computer the size of a quarter. It's micro enough for me.

 

[theevilsharpie]

Right now, the Linux kernel size is growing exponentially. That's somewhat unsettling since most of the OS should be GNU packages, not the kernel itself.

The Linux kernel is only a few megabytes, and that's including any modules you may have loaded.

 

[lxskllr]

The Linux kernel is only a few megabytes, and that's including any modules you may have loaded.

 

[theevilsharpie]

tes@inf-01:~$ uname -a
Linux inf-01 2.6.32-38-server #83-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 4 11:26:59 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux

tes@inf-01:~$ du -h /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-38-server
4.0M    /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-38-server

tes@inf-01:~$ lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
nfsd                  304438  11
lockd                  75079  1 nfsd
nfs_acl                 2709  1 nfsd
auth_rpcgss            44516  1 nfsd
sunrpc                228420  10 nfsd,lockd,nfs_acl,auth_rpcgss
exportfs                4202  1 nfsd
acpiphp                20317  0
ip6t_LOG                5649  4
xt_hl                   1529  4
nf_conntrack_ipv6      12816  7
ipt_REJECT              2384  1
ipt_LOG                 5370  5
xt_limit                2180  12
xt_tcpudp               2667  26
ipt_addrtype            2151  4
xt_state                1490  14
ip6table_filter         2887  1
ip6_tables             19618  2 ip6t_LOG,ip6table_filter
nf_nat_irc              1577  0
nf_conntrack_irc        4429  1 nf_nat_irc
nf_nat_ftp              2513  0
nf_nat                 19501  2 nf_nat_irc,nf_nat_ftp
nf_conntrack_ipv4      12980  9 nf_nat
nf_defrag_ipv4          1481  1 nf_conntrack_ipv4
nf_conntrack_ftp        7126  1 nf_nat_ftp
nf_conntrack           73966  8 nf_conntrack_ipv6,xt_state,nf_nat_irc,nf_conntrack_irc,nf_nat_ftp,nf_nat,nf_conntrack_ipv4,nf_conntrack_ftp
iptable_filter          2791  1
ip_tables              18390  1 iptable_filter
x_tables               22461  10 ip6t_LOG,xt_hl,ipt_REJECT,ipt_LOG,xt_limit,xt_tcpudp,ipt_addrtype,xt_state,ip6_tables,ip_tables
fbcon                  39270  71
tileblit                2487  1 fbcon
font                    8053  1 fbcon
bitblit                 5811  1 fbcon
ppdev                   6375  0
softcursor              1565  1 bitblit
psmouse                65040  0
serio_raw               4950  0
parport_pc             29958  1
lp                      9336  0
vga16fb                12757  1
vgastate                9857  1 vga16fb
i2c_piix4               9639  0
intel_agp              29287  1
shpchp                 33679  0
parport                37160  3 ppdev,parport_pc,lp
mptspi                 16452  3
mptscsih               37167  1 mptspi
e1000                 109015  0
floppy                 63156  0
mptbase                91674  2 mptspi,mptscsih
vmw_pvscsi             15744  0
vmxnet3                30709  0