anyone know no-haggle places for nicer cars?

[Elstupido]

The only way I will buy a new car is through a broker, as stated before through my credit union or another source. You tell them what you want, and they give you the lowest price.

I have done this a few times, and it is the only way to go. No salesmen, and they go through a number of dealers to get the best possible deal without haggling. Salesman commission omitted.

When you talk about below dealer invoice, and them loosing money, you need to remember that dealers are given a credit for the number of vehicles they sell in a year by the mfg, and that translates into dealer profit. Give it a try.

 

[sjwaste]

Originally posted by: Elstupido
The only way I will buy a new car is through a broker, as stated before through my credit union or another source. You tell them what you want, and they give you the lowest price.

I have done this a few times, and it is the only way to go. No salesmen, and they go through a number of dealers to get the best possible deal without haggling. Salesman commission omitted.

When you talk about below dealer invoice, and them loosing money, you need to remember that dealers are given a credit for the number of vehicles they sell in a year by the mfg, and that translates into dealer profit. Give it a try.

That's basically what CarsDirect is. I haven't used them yet, but plan to. My cousin had a good experience buying his Sentra w/ them.

 

[Elstupido]

sjwaste, yes and as a general rule the broker is at least, if not more knowledgeable than the salesman is, because there is no incentive to push the salesman's commission agendas. The broker just wants to make a sale for the lowest price,, short and sweet, bypassing the salesman's bullshit and time.

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Muadib
Every car sold in the US has an options list from the manufacturer. Like d33pt said, it's just a car. It doesn't matter if it's 20k or 350k. It is true that you may not be able to get them exactly like you want it, especially if you are looking at one of the rare brands.

They are rare for a reason. They only import so many to the US, and as the dollar has fallen, I'd bet so has the number of high end imports.

I might be getting ahead of myself though. What is he looking to buy? Jags, Porsches & Mercedes, for the most part, are pretty common cars.

Paying for add-ons, unless you wanted them, is one of the biggest "cons" of the automotive business. Be informed, don't be a sucker.

He is looking at the north end of 80-100k.

He wants to make it easy.

Does he know what model he wants, or is he just fishing to see if you will do the "hard" part for him? Knowing what he wants to spend is great, but unless he's trusting you to pick something out, more info is needed.

 

[alkemyst]

There is a reason my question was general. He is not sure and will be doing his own shopping. His budget is pretty limitless although he has kept it to ~90-140k cars each year. He is looking solely for no-haggle type places to not turn every car purchase into an attempt to upsale and markup everything along the way.

What has happened in the past is for him to run numbers by me and have me see if it's a good deal. However; 9 times out of 10 the sales drones are not giving him all the information needed to shop the cars. He is looking to buy them off lots and not wait on special orders and the like. I think he got what he needed with my first recommendations to him as I haven't heard back that he was having any trouble using those resources.

I was hoping to get those with experience to reply rather than those just guessing or throwing out things that don't scale to the upper market.

 

[Muadib]

That's the thing , the car game is the same, no matter what market you shop. The buyer wants a car for as little as possible, and the dealer wants to sell it for as much as he can get.

No haggle places are good for both parties, because the buyer thinks he's getting a good deal, and the seller is making a nice profit. In my experience, you can do better, because I've only seen those types of places on cars that aren't selling. Try getting such a deal on the new ZR-1 or the new Nissan GT-R. It ain't gonna happen.

When your boss decides what he wants, post back. If nothing else, it will give me something new to drool over.😛

 

[Fenixgoon]

audi S8 or S6. nuff said 😀

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Muadib
That's the thing , the car game is the same, no matter what market you shop. The buyer wants a car for as little as possible, and the dealer wants to sell it for as much as he can get.

No haggle places are good for both parties, because the buyer thinks he's getting a good deal, and the seller is making a nice profit. In my experience, you can do better, because I've only seen those types of places on cars that aren't selling. Try getting such a deal on the new ZR-1 or the new Nissan GT-R. It ain't gonna happen.

When your boss decides what he wants, post back. If nothing else, it will give me something new to drool over.😛

He's not looking really for as little as rather fair and easy.

Almost all dealers become a hard sell and every car they have may be the last one available in the country (they claim)...

The thread has gone off on a tangent though.

 

[alkemyst]

he went with the LS460...not much negotiation possible due to Moran's monopoly in the SE region on Toyota/Lexus...

It's a nice car.

 

[Muadib]

It's a very nice car, but I'm a bit shocked that he bought one. The Benz owners I've come across don't want anything to do with Lexus.

I have to disagree with you on the negotiation thing though. Jm Lexus was the top Lexus dealer in the US, but lost the title to a dealer in Tx. You don't get to be #1 unless you are willing to negotiate. I used their website for leverage when I helped my gf's mom buy her ES.
My sister also used them when she got her Rx last year.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Muadib
It's a very nice car, but I'm a bit shocked that he bought one. The Benz owners I've come across don't want anything to do with Lexus.

I have to disagree with you on the negotiation thing though. Jm Lexus was the top Lexus dealer in the US, but lost the title to a dealer in Tx. You don't get to be #1 unless you are willing to negotiate. I used their website for leverage when I helped my gf's mom buy her ES.
My sister also used them when she got her Rx last year.

Lexus are the MB's around here in PB. Everyone has a MB.

He got a good price but the addon fees of moran make it a bit higher than a west coast price.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
There is a reason my question was general. He is not sure and will be doing his own shopping. His budget is pretty limitless although he has kept it to ~90-140k cars each year. He is looking solely for no-haggle type places to not turn every car purchase into an attempt to upsale and markup everything along the way.

What has happened in the past is for him to run numbers by me and have me see if it's a good deal. However; 9 times out of 10 the sales drones are not giving him all the information needed to shop the cars. He is looking to buy them off lots and not wait on special orders and the like. I think he got what he needed with my first recommendations to him as I haven't heard back that he was having any trouble using those resources.

I was hoping to get those with experience to reply rather than those just guessing or throwing out things that don't scale to the upper market.

First, yes I know he's already purchased but he should keep this in mind for next year.

If he found a dealership he likes(brand, etc) then he needs to get to know a sales guy there(or a manager or finance guy) who he can build a rapport with.
When I sold cars at a Toyota dealership, we had Mercedes too. He had customers who would just call him up each year and have him work up the deal. He had an idea of what they wanted since they came back each year. Most would only make 1 maybe 2 trips to the dealership. Sometimes the first time was to look over the vehicle when it arrived off the truck other times it was to just come in to sign the papers and take delivery of it.

It makes it a bit more complicated if your boss likes to switch brands all the time but truth be told, repeat customers aren't "screwed" and "hassled" like first time walk ins for the most part.

 

[alkemyst]

He is not a repeat customer though...that's a given almost anytime that if they know you are buying a new car every year from them they are going to give you a good deal.

That said one of the mechanics I use is driving a CL55 AMG now instead of his 10th BMW 5 series because they sold 'his' car. In our area sadly, it's had to find loyalty when so much money is flying around for cars.