Anyone know about warrents and what the police can get them for?

[AndroidVageta]

This might seem a little long in the tooth...but Ill try to keep it short.

Basically my best friend lives in Texas, where I used to live, now I'm residing in Atlanta. Just to get that out of the way, as I have no way of verifying my friends story 100%.

OK what happened is this:

My friend (guy A) is at a sports shopping center (Academy) with another one of his buddies (guy B). His buddy apparently drops a bag of weed (unknown size, most likely pretty small) and one of the employees there picks it up and throws it away. Guy B notices that its missing and asked one of the employees if he can dig in the trash to get something he dropped (the weed)...short of it cops are called without friends knowing. Cops go out to my friends SUV (guy A) and asks to search his truck for drugs. He says no (cause he had some weed in his center console) and the cops tell him to find another way home cause they are having dogs come out to sniff truck. Truck is locked and he does not unlock it for the police.

My friend goes back to the parking lot of Academy later that night to find his truck still there and locked...which means:

Truck was not searched or sniffed, because if it was they would have unlocked his truck, found the weed and would have towed/seized his vehicle.

So, my friend is relieved. All is good...besides the fact that hes now freaking out and decides to change his life and end all the bad shit hes doing. Thats fine, I have no problems with that as Ive done this myself.

He texts me today and tells me that he is cutting all ties with people that he knows does drugs and people that used too just to get away from it all. He does this because he tells me that the police and the DEA searched his house after this incident...

He tells me they searched his house because they have him on camera at Academy with his friend when his friend dropped his weed.

Now Im out of the best friendship I have. But my problem with the story is this...can the police get a search warrant for your house if they have you on camera with someone else that had illegal substance on them?

I think the whole story myself is bullshit...mainly because its weed. My friend has no prior convictions and in Lubbock Texas they have A LOT bigger fish to fry (and many of them) then to search my friends house because his friend had weed on him.

Im thinking that the search is highly improbable and that a judge wouldn't even be bothered by issuing a warrant on such a light case.

What do you guys think? Are warrants that easy to come by? Will police search your house because of another friends misdoings?

 

[her209]

Wrong forum

 

[AndroidVageta]

Ill repost in OT then, thanks.

 

[her209]

Ill repost in OT then, thanks.

It'll probably get moved.

 

[guyver01]

can the police get a search warrant for your house if they have you on camera with someone else that had illegal substance on them?

Yes. Its called Probable cause.

The most well-known definition of probable cause is "a reasonable belief that a person has committed a crime".

Another common definition is "a reasonable amount of suspicion, supported by circumstances sufficiently strong to justify a prudent and cautious person's belief that certain facts are probably true".


In United States criminal law, probable cause is the standard by which a police officer has the authority to make an arrest, conduct a personal or property search, or to obtain a warrant for arrest.

 

[AndroidVageta]

Yes. Its called Probable cause.

The most well-known definition of probable cause is "a reasonable belief that a person has committed a crime".

Another common definition is "a reasonable amount of suspicion, supported by circumstances sufficiently strong to justify a prudent and cautious person's belief that certain facts are probably true".

Yeah, I understand that, it just seems odd to me that the police would go through all that trouble without him actually doing something wrong...and like I said, in Lubbock, they have bigger issues...shit, I got pulled over one time and was caught with weed...the police let me go! They told me they were looking for more "serious" substance...now granted they might have been DEA looking for coke or meth (which is serious there, which is why Im not believing they searched his house just for weed...its a college town, almost everyone there does it) but the fact is that I didnt even get in trouble for it...why would the DEA be all bent out of shape and searching peoples houses for some weed?

 

[Taejin]

criminals.

 

[guyver01]

Yeah, I understand that, it just seems odd to me that the police would go through all that trouble without him actually doing something wrong

Possession of marijuana is still illegal, and a federal offense.

The officers did not know whether your friend was a dealer, a supplier, a buyer or just a user.

The video of him standing next to someone who is possessing a controlled substance would provide a "reasonable amount of suspicion, supported by circumstances sufficiently strong to justify" a belief that he may have had the substance at his premise.

 

[AndroidVageta]

Possession of marijuana is still illegal, and a federal offense.

The officers did not know whether your friend was a dealer, a supplier, a buyer or just a user.

The video of him standing next to someone who is possessing a controlled substance would provide a "reasonable amount of suspicion, supported by circumstances sufficiently strong to justify" a belief that he may have had the substance at his premise.

He must have just gotten the short straw...people in Lubbock get busted alllllll the time for weed...Ive know plenty of people who have...not one of them ever had anything of theirs searched, not once.

I guess he was just one of the unlucky ones?

 

[bob4432]

i say there is some bullshit from the beginning - they could have searched the vehicle because of probable cause in the first place because the people at the sports store would have been a witness to what had taken place. cops don't need a warrant to search your vehicle, they can make shit up to search it based "on your actions and reactions" just like they can pull you over for no reason - "there was a robbery and this vehicle matches the description of the car that was involved".... all bullshit.

if the dea is involved then your friend is lying to you on a different level because the dea is not going to go after a guy dropping a bag of weed. either way, he is full of shit because either nothing happend or he is in much more than you think.

as far as cops getting a home search warrant - yep, the judge will sign off on it because they go off of what they are presented by the officer requesting it and a cop knows what to say and how to illustrate the need to the judge to get what they want.

the only way your friend could be telling the truth if in fact he just met this person and doesn't know their past, but it sounds like he does know the guy if he states he stopped the police from searching his vehicle w/ his buddies weed in it to cover his buddies ass. again, that part doesn't add up, the police could have searched the vehicle.

 

[AndroidVageta]

i say there is some bullshit from the beginning - they could have searched the vehicle because of probable cause in the first place because the people at the sports store would have been a witness to what had taken place. cops don't need a warrant to search your vehicle, they can make shit up to search it based "on your actions and reactions" just like they can pull you over for no reason - "there was a robbery and this vehicle matches the description of the car that was involved".... all bullshit.

if the dea is involved then your friend is lying to you on a different level because the dea is not going to go after a guy dropping a bag of weed. either way, he is full of shit because either nothing happend or he is in much more than you think.

as far as cops getting a home search warrant - yep, the judge will sign off on it because they go off of what they are presented by the officer requesting it and a cop knows what to say and how to illustrate the need to the judge to get what they want.

the only way your friend could be telling the truth if in fact he just met this person and doesn't know their past, but it sounds like he does know the guy if he states he stopped the police from searching his vehicle w/ his buddies weed in it to cover his buddies ass. again, that part doesn't add up, the police could have searched the vehicle.

See...this is what I was thinking too...too many holes in the story.

I know my friend pretty damn well...not like 100% but enough to know that he isnt into anything major...hes just a pot head...you know, your standard "gets a couple sacks every week" kinda person, hes too much of a pussy to get into anything major what so ever.

 

[2Xtreme21]

Maybe this is all a weed-fueled delusion?

 

[Legendary]

TX notoriously prosecutes weed offenses so I'm not surprised a warrant was so easy to obtain.

P.S. your friend is an idiot

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Ugh


The vehicle could be searched. FWIW it might've been sniffed, you never know. They would've 'held' your friend while they called the dogs so his story is likely BS.


The house could not be searched, at least not in my state. I seriously seriously doubt a Texas judge would allow something like that.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

i say there is some bullshit from the beginning - they could have searched the vehicle because of probable cause in the first place because the people at the sports store would have been a witness to what had taken place. cops don't need a warrant to search your vehicle, they can make shit up to search it based "on your actions and reactions" just like they can pull you over for no reason - "there was a robbery and this vehicle matches the description of the car that was involved".... all bullshit.

if the dea is involved then your friend is lying to you on a different level because the dea is not going to go after a guy dropping a bag of weed. either way, he is full of shit because either nothing happend or he is in much more than you think.

as far as cops getting a home search warrant - yep, the judge will sign off on it because they go off of what they are presented by the officer requesting it and a cop knows what to say and how to illustrate the need to the judge to get what they want.

the only way your friend could be telling the truth if in fact he just met this person and doesn't know their past, but it sounds like he does know the guy if he states he stopped the police from searching his vehicle w/ his buddies weed in it to cover his buddies ass. again, that part doesn't add up, the police could have searched the vehicle.

I still think it would take a LOT of made up shit to go from one person dropping contraband to his buddy's house getting searched. What would the grounds for the warrant be?

It would all fall apart in court with a decent lawyer, 99% chance your buddy is embellishing, 1% chance he got screwed bigtime by a bunch of crooked cops.


And yeah, the DEA absolutely would laugh at something like this unless they think your buddy is involved in a lot more stuff (Which is possible... maybe they were already investigating him and this popped up on the radar?)

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Yes. Its called Probable cause.

The most well-known definition of probable cause is "a reasonable belief that a person has committed a crime".

Another common definition is "a reasonable amount of suspicion, supported by circumstances sufficiently strong to justify a prudent and cautious person's belief that certain facts are probably true".


In United States criminal law, probable cause is the standard by which a police officer has the authority to make an arrest, conduct a personal or property search, or to obtain a warrant for arrest.

Keep watching law and order.


In Texas possession under 2 ounces is a f@cking ticket!! I know 100% that this is bullshit. There is no one in law enforcement stupid enough to present this to a judge to get a search warrant. "Yes your honor we'd like to get a search warrant to search the friend of a guy who dropped a bag of weed at Academy." You guys will buy anything. Get out of your freaking basements!!!

 

[AndroidVageta]

Yeah...thats what I was thinking too...they arent going to tell you to go home while theyre in the process of searching your car...and searching your car is something they can do anyways, especially considering they had probable cause too.

And probable cause or not, I HIGHLY doubt that they could get a warrant that fast if at all to search his house...I know people that are into the shit 1000x worse than he ever was that are even being watched by the police whose houses have never been searched...

Known drug dealers = no searching...friends buddy drops some weed = friends house getting searched = BS

 

[minendo]

Unfortunately, Lubbock police don't have anything better to do. I got four citations for hitting a mailbox and the cop tried to bring me to jail because my car was parked in my garage and there were empty beer bottles in my garage trash.

 

[AndroidVageta]

Unfortunately, Lubbock police don't have anything better to do. I got four citations for hitting a mailbox and the cop tried to bring me to jail because my car was parked in my garage and there were empty beer bottles in my garage trash.

LOL...yeah, the police there are a little weird and over bearing...

But that said, a cop being a absolute dick is a little different than the DEA and judge giving the OK for a warrant to search someones house on the basis of him being with somebody who dropped some weed.

That thought brings me to, if the amount of weed dropped was big enough his friend would have gone to jail, which he didnt...so obviously it was basically one of those "not a big deal" type things.

That and the police could have searched his SUV right there on the spot even if my friend said no. Im calling shenanigans!

 

[halik]

Obviously if they searched his house already, they were able to get a warrant.
The funny part is how to get to the car w/o driving it, since as soon as you get into the car, you'd be in possession.

 

[halik]

i say there is some bullshit from the beginning - they could have searched the vehicle because of probable cause in the first place because the people at the sports store would have been a witness to what had taken place. cops don't need a warrant to search your vehicle, they can make shit up to search it based "on your actions and reactions" just like they can pull you over for no reason - "there was a robbery and this vehicle matches the description of the car that was involved".... all bullshit.

if the dea is involved then your friend is lying to you on a different level because the dea is not going to go after a guy dropping a bag of weed. either way, he is full of shit because either nothing happend or he is in much more than you think.

as far as cops getting a home search warrant - yep, the judge will sign off on it because they go off of what they are presented by the officer requesting it and a cop knows what to say and how to illustrate the need to the judge to get what they want.

the only way your friend could be telling the truth if in fact he just met this person and doesn't know their past, but it sounds like he does know the guy if he states he stopped the police from searching his vehicle w/ his buddies weed in it to cover his buddies ass. again, that part doesn't add up, the police could have searched the vehicle.

BULLSHIT

If you do not consent to vehicle search and they don't see anything from the outside, the dogs would have to sniff something to get probable cause. That's the reason why they car was still there - dogs didn't pick up anything.

 

[seepy83]

BULLSHIT

If you do not consent to vehicle search and they don't see anything from the outside, the dogs would have to sniff something to get probable cause. That's the reason why they car was still there - dogs didn't pick up anything.

A little off topic, but, personally, I think the whole "K9 sniffing your vehicle" thing is a bunch of bullshit. Can't they have the dog trained to bark if the handler tugs on the leash in a certain way or something? That dog could bark for any reason...no one is interrogating it to make sure it barked because it smelled drugs...

 

[Kirby]

Stop resisting!

*beats AndroidVageta senseless and tazes his testicles.

 

[AndroidVageta]

Stop resisting!

*beats AndroidVageta senseless and tazes his testicles.

I would actually enjoy that...

 

[Kev]

The police has obviously turned your friend and he has decided to inform on all his previous drug connections.