Anyone know a lot about PS2 (hardware and modding stuff)

[purbeast0]

I grabbed these 2 ps2's I had that were in pieces for over a year that I had left at my moms house because I was going to make 1 working one out of these 2 busted ones (1 wasn't busted actually, I'll explain later).

System 1
This system my friend gave to me when the DVD drive stopped working. When you would go to load a game up, you would hear a few clicks in the drive, and then it would stop. I actually took the top off of the DVD tray and I actually saw that it looked like the laser was actually tapping the disc like 3 times. THe disc wasn't spinning at all however. The laser would tap it like 3 times and thats all it would do. Also, everytime I turn it on, it asks me to enter the time zone.

System 2
I let my girlfriends brothers borrow my ps2 ages ago and they told me that it no longer was outputting video or sound. So I took it home and ripped it apart and saw nothing wrong with it. I then hooked it up to my TV and low and behold, it was working fine. I was just lazy to put it back together at the time.

So today, before I put system 2 back together, it was getting video. When it was back together, it no longer was getting video or sound. And now even when it's apart, it's not getting any video or sound.

So with system 2 apart, I decided to hook the dvdrom up to system 1. And low and behold, now System 1, with the DVD drive from system 2, is STILL doing that clicking noise. SO I'm thinking the clicking noise of the DVDrom is not the actual dvdrom that has problems. I tried hooking the dvd drive from system 1 up to system 2, and it seemed to spin fine (although I'm not getting any video/sound).

Soo ... does anyone have any clue what is oging on? Both of these have modchips in them, and I'm not positive which is in them, but I am pretty sure 1 of em is a messiah 3.

 

[purbeast0]

anyone?

 

[RaiderJ]

For system 1, it could either be a bad laser, or a bad controller chip. What version PS2 is it? SCPH-XXXXXX. Some versions had issues with lasers burning out.

System 2 might just have a bad fuse. If you pull out a multimeter and check the fuses, you might find some don't work. Past that, it's hard to tell.

You can't always swap out drives between systems, and different lasers aren't always compatible. 400B/C lasers can be swapped with each other, but HD-7 and others can't.

With modchips, typically what I do is completely remove the chips before I start diagnosing. Poor installs can cause problems.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: RaiderJ
For system 1, it could either be a bad laser, or a bad controller chip. What version PS2 is it? SCPH-XXXXXX. Some versions had issues with lasers burning out.

System 2 might just have a bad fuse. If you pull out a multimeter and check the fuses, you might find some don't work. Past that, it's hard to tell.

You can't always swap out drives between systems, and different lasers aren't always compatible. 400B/C lasers can be swapped with each other, but HD-7 and others can't.

With modchips, typically what I do is completely remove the chips before I start diagnosing. Poor installs can cause problems.

Well I checked the chip installs and they are both solid on there. I didnt install them myself because I can't do ps2 installs heh, they are just too tough for me to do 🙂

And the thing about system 1 is that i find it weird that the dvdrom makes the same weird sound regardless of what drive is on there.

Both models are SCPH-39001's as well.

 

[RaiderJ]

SCPH-39001 are v7 systems, which typically have good lasers, and don't have issues with them burning out. Can you get the exact laser model you're working with?

Solid chip installs - is that just on a visual inspection, or did you go over BIOS points and such to verify there is no bridging? Looks good doesn't always mean is good. Ground wires are especially finicky. I would still recommend removing the chips. Chips can go bad for all sorts of reasons and cause problems unrelated to hardware issues.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: RaiderJ
SCPH-39001 are v7 systems, which typically have good lasers, and don't have issues with them burning out. Can you get the exact laser model you're working with?

Solid chip installs - is that just on a visual inspection, or did you go over BIOS points and such to verify there is no bridging? Looks good doesn't always mean is good. Ground wires are especially finicky. I would still recommend removing the chips. Chips can go bad for all sorts of reasons and cause problems unrelated to hardware issues.

Okay so I messed around with it more right now.

On the one showing no video, I did find that a resistor (i think thats what its called, one of those little chips with 6 legs on it) near the video input connector looks like it has been fried. It looks like part of the little chip actually melted, so atleast I can physically see something wrong with that one.

However, on the other one, it is still pissing me off! I tried both dvd drives again on it, and they BOTH do the same weird clicking noise. And when I have them hooked to the one with no video, it spins fine. Also on the one that doesn't work right with the dvdrom, it is asking me to enter the timezone EVERYTIME i turn on the console.

Man I wish I could figure out that one so I could get it workin right! I examined the motherboard big time and it is flawless.

 

[RaiderJ]

The timezone issue would be the battery. I think they are CR-2032 3.3v watch batteries on the motherboard - buy a new one or swap them between machines.

If a chip is fried, there's probably not much you can do, unless you start swapping components. I'd not do that until you're out of options. For the DVD issue, chances are your drive and laser are fine, since the one system seems to handle the drives ok. Can you tell if the laser seems to authenticate the disc? It should slide around to different areas of the disc as if it's reading data. The controller chip that might need to be replaced is the 6508. Not sure how to test that particular IC.

I have one system that doesn't have a working DVD drive, but I have it boot uLaunchELF from the memory card. Without a working DVD drive you can run about 90% of games from the hard drive. It's an option worth considering if your chip supports booting ELF files.

 

[purbeast0]

So okay I just messed around with it for another hour or so, and I got one working 🙂

The one w/the messed up DVD-ROM (clicking noise) asking for timezone ... I just put the battery from the other motherboard in it, and then turned it on and it still wasn't workin. But I then let it sit for a little bit, then tried again, and bam, it worked!

So now I have a working ps2, and the other one I am going to part for pieces. The only thing that is wrong w/the other one is the motherboard, but I'm just glad I got one owrkin 🙂

Thanks for the help man.

 

[inveterate]

U guyz are crzy, Buy new one. Works. and stick with boot disk with the lil metal things that stay inside the fliptop,, that works best.

 

[RaiderJ]

Glad to help! Can you tell me what model the laser is on the bad system? I might be interested in that, and the chip for a system I have.

 

[RaiderJ]

Originally posted by: inveterate
U guyz are crzy, Buy new one. Works. and stick with boot disk with the lil metal things that stay inside the fliptop,, that works best.

Not a bad option for simplicity, but I'll take a modchip over that any day.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: inveterate
U guyz are crzy, Buy new one. Works. and stick with boot disk with the lil metal things that stay inside the fliptop,, that works best.

have you tried modding a ps2? it's very tough. I can mod 360's and Wii's, but I paid to have my ps2 modded. I paid over $100 for it modded + the chip.

Also I was fixing these to sell em, not to keep em. I'm getting a ps2 very soon.

RaiderJ I'm not sure of the model of the dvd-drive but I snapped a quick pic of it but I doubt you can tell fro mthat. I already put it back together. I'm going to paste it in my other FS thread and update it. If you are interested let me know.

 

[inveterate]

Originally posted by: RaiderJ

Originally posted by: inveterate
U guyz are crzy, Buy new one. Works. and stick with boot disk with the lil metal things that stay inside the fliptop,, that works best.

Not a bad option for simplicity, but I'll take a modchip over that any day.

I'd only consider mod chip after the warrenty went out. But even then, i'd still rather just use the boot disk, it's alot easier on the slim than it was on the bulky vers.

 

[RaiderJ]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: inveterate
U guyz are crzy, Buy new one. Works. and stick with boot disk with the lil metal things that stay inside the fliptop,, that works best.

have you tried modding a ps2? it's very tough. I can mod 360's and Wii's, but I paid to have my ps2 modded. I paid over $100 for it modded + the chip.

Also I was fixing these to sell em, not to keep em. I'm getting a ps2 very soon.

RaiderJ I'm not sure of the model of the dvd-drive but I snapped a quick pic of it but I doubt you can tell fro mthat. I already put it back together. I'm going to paste it in my other FS thread and update it. If you are interested let me know.

You can take the top cover off the drive, and look on the side of the laser itself. There will be sticker on it that should tell you.

 

[RaiderJ]

Originally posted by: inveterate

Originally posted by: RaiderJ

Originally posted by: inveterate
U guyz are crzy, Buy new one. Works. and stick with boot disk with the lil metal things that stay inside the fliptop,, that works best.

Not a bad option for simplicity, but I'll take a modchip over that any day.

I'd only consider mod chip after the warrenty went out. But even then, i'd still rather just use the boot disk, it's alot easier on the slim than it was on the bulky vers.

That is true, the flip top makes things easier. Don't you have to pull apart the system to even use the swap magic flip top?

I especially like adding a hard drive to the slimlines, looks very slick when it's all done if using HD Combo.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: RaiderJ

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: inveterate
U guyz are crzy, Buy new one. Works. and stick with boot disk with the lil metal things that stay inside the fliptop,, that works best.

have you tried modding a ps2? it's very tough. I can mod 360's and Wii's, but I paid to have my ps2 modded. I paid over $100 for it modded + the chip.

Also I was fixing these to sell em, not to keep em. I'm getting a ps2 very soon.

RaiderJ I'm not sure of the model of the dvd-drive but I snapped a quick pic of it but I doubt you can tell fro mthat. I already put it back together. I'm going to paste it in my other FS thread and update it. If you are interested let me know.

You can take the top cover off the drive, and look on the side of the laser itself. There will be sticker on it that should tell you.

the sticker is 2 lines and reads the following:

KHS-400C D516
14X26KF2 C628

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: inveterate
U guyz are crzy, Buy new one. Works. and stick with boot disk with the lil metal things that stay inside the fliptop,, that works best.

Pfft, no need to buy those lame plastic inserts, I modded my PS2 Slim with scotch tape 😛.

 

[inveterate]

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: inveterate
U guyz are crzy, Buy new one. Works. and stick with boot disk with the lil metal things that stay inside the fliptop,, that works best.

Pfft, no need to buy those lame plastic inserts, I modded my PS2 Slim with scotch tape 😛.

See now, That is what I call professionalism. Personally I'm against tape, the whole residue thing + my mild OCD towards cleaning. Sux when ur parents are super OCD about house being clean. Their strong believers of Hand toweling the floors. My take, Inefficient. But dame does it shine

 

[exdeath]

Don't have time to read, but do your chips have firmware? Many mod chips ship empty and need to be flashed with firmware.

I have a DMS3 in mine that I use for booting from memory card to load my IP loader so I can dev on the PC remotely. It came working out of the box.

Installed a DMS4 Lite for a friend and couldn't get it working for days until I decided to burn a self booting flash update CD and found out there wasn't a prior version flashed...