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MongGrel

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That's not making fun of your hobby. That was a jab at name calling, which is pretty much the hobby of 4th graders.

Put it away in the closet to collect dust is what a lot of people do with old hardware after they get tired of it's nostalgia factor. But like I said to each their own and have fun.

I was just genuinely curious as to the draw of old obsolete hardware and software. The question was answered. We could have done without the name calling but some people have the maturity of 4th graders and that's just sad.

But if I get attacked, I will go on the defensive otherwise people assume, and believe, the worst about me if I don't. While I make every attempt to take the high road, I cannot let someone have the floor while verbally attacking me unprovoked and leave their accusations unchallenged. I hope you understand, and I apologize for any misunderstanding if I caused any.

Blah blah blah, I can't figure out why people get mad when I call them names, insult them, etc, etc.

I can't figure out why bullshit , more bullshit.

Start calling people 4th graders again, still can't figure it out.

Then starts acting like he was being attacked.

The fail is strong.
 
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disappoint

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Blah blah blah, I can't figure out why people get mad when I call them names, insult them, etc, etc.

I can't figure out why bullshit , more bullshit.

Start calling people 4th graders again, still can't figure it out.

Then starts acting like he was being attacked.

The fail is strong.

Action: Act like a 4th grader.
Outcome: Get called on it.

Need anything more spelled out for you or can you use Google to figure the rest out on your own?
 

MongGrel

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Action: Act like a 4th grader.
Outcome: Get called on it.

Need anything more spelled out for you or can you use Google to figure the rest out on your own?

I'm done even responding to you at all.

Have a nice day.

Grow up someday.

I'm sick of even trying to lower myself to your level atm.
 
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disappoint

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I'm through even responding to you at all.

Have a nice day.

Grow up someday.

You have a nice day as well. As for growing up someday, I prefer to do a little of that every day. You don't know how humans work either? We don't just mature all in one day. It's a slow, long process that includes dialog, even with those who disagree with us.

Although...hmmm...I don't recall taking your ball and running home as part of that process. ;)
 

lxskllr

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I have one of these...

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Been thinking about firing it up lately. I have some decent software for it, and the size is great. Imagine what they could do with modern parts.
 

TwiceOver

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We have an Apple2, 2e, 2GS. My son loves playing Depth Charge on the 2gs. Fan of LodeRunner on the 2e.
 

mrjminer

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I have one of these...

fmdZy02.jpg


Been thinking about firing it up lately. I have some decent software for it, and the size is great. Imagine what they could do with modern parts.

Jealous. I always wanted one of those when I was a little kid
 

waggy

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I have a timex sinclear 1000. At times i think about fireing it up. but then think better of it.


I have had computes in the house as long as i can remember. My mom worked on them since the 70's. We always had computers, parts and punch cards all over.

no way would i want to go back to a 486. Dos was ok..but why?

I can think of other ways to get frustrated and pissed off.
 

BUTCH1

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No.

But if I was, I think a C64 would be more amusing than a 486.

The big floppies still work ? :p

They wrote a TON of software (mostly games) for the C-64 and considering it's an 8-bit machine operating at 1Mhz the programmers had to write efficient code for it and they generally did. The issue today would be display as I don't think it would hook up to today's TV's.
 

MongGrel

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They wrote a TON of software (mostly games) for the C-64 and considering it's an 8-bit machine operating at 1Mhz the programmers had to write efficient code for it and they generally did. The issue today would be display as I don't think it would hook up to today's TV's.

I still have an old 27" Magnavox CRT TV that one would work on in the guest room :biggrin:

I don't think it has been turned on in years, might have to see if it still works. The wife has her computer in there, that is what is usually used in that room.

Yeah, they did write a bunch of things, this used to be one of my favorites.

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runzwithsizorz

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So you just like the noise of the dot matrix printer or what? Because we have printers that are faster with higher resolution today.

We also have joysticks that are far superior in pretty much every way nowadays as well.

LOL, speaking of noisy printers, I had a 20lb. daisy wheel with a fazer unit.
Anyone here even know what a fazer unit was?
 

Red Squirrel

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I would not say I'm into it that deeply, ex: I don't own any, but I definitely find them interesting. It's neat to see how things progressed over time. If bored check out various Univac related videos on Youtube, interesting stuff. Phone switching is pretty interesting too. Check out AT&T Archives, lots of cool stuff.
 

K7SN

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Setting a set of switches on the front of a computer to put in registers just to start a computer was fun in 1960s.

Having to call up the weatherman to find out if the wind was blowing around Tonopah Nevada because the long distance telephone wires on insulators wouldn't support even 110 baud when the wind was blowing in 1970 and the only computer an Undergraduate had access to was a Xerox Sigma 7 five hundred miles away. That was only fun if it would be gentle on Saturday so you could go on a date Friday night.

Writing a single entry bookkeeping program in Fortran was fun 1970, but not some much fun 10 years later when VisiCalc started making money and all I had to show for my similar program was a Mylar tape (You used inexpensive paper tape for development and punched your finished program on Mylar tape).

Using a Teletype Model 43 to log in from home and write Fortran code was fun in the mid 70s. When the University offered 300 baud access in lieu of 110 baud was even more fun.

Having a LSI-11 to play Original Adventure on was fun in the 1979.

Printing 4 dimensional shadows in pseudo 3D using an Apple ][ and an Epson MX-80 dot matrix printer was fun in 1980; even if it took five hours or more to print a single page.

Playing with a 'Hypercube 7' which had 128 pc boards each with an 80826 and an 80827 was tons of fun at the time in 1982 or 3.

Writing all sorts of programs in Turbo Pascal was fun in the mid 80s was fun. Making money from shareware in the late 80s was even more fun.

Being hired away from the University while still programming on a DEC in February 1st, 1992 was an extra 120 a week pay but with a few exception not nearly as much fun as playing on new things at the University.

Working on a really nifty software project using an writing new mathematical equations on a IBM 486DX2 using DOS was fun, backing up weekly to an external QIC tape drive which took several hours with available machine and compression was not fun. The program when completed saved environmental air quality entities between $200.000 or $300.000 and six months lag to analyze a days worth of collecting data for Acid Rain and surface Ozone emissions was wonderful fun when I did it.

The 3-man team of a post doctorate Russian atmospheric physicist on an Academy of Science grant, a GS-15 PhD physicist and a humble C programmer was great fun. Implementing an formula that had never been translated out of Russian wasn't so much fun. Giving away that program, worth millions, with my source code on 5¼-inch was part of the job of a government contractor. Presenting an hour keynote talk at an international conference where we gave it away was fun. The fact that the Russian Scientists English wasn't so good and the GS-15 PhD stuttered meant a humble programmer had to present to a room full of PhD physicist when undergraduate physics was all I ever took; that wasn't fun.

The above were fun then but are faded memories now; I sure don't have the time left in my life to go back to punch cards, paper tape, 6502s or CP/M.

Still have the Apple ][ and the daisy wheel printer but junked or found homes for almost everything else. Below are fond memories I almost like to do again for a day or so.

Using a daisy wheel printer to write my Congress critters where they thought I typed a two page document by hand was great fun in the 90s when everyone else used laser printers was not only fun at 5 characters per second but helped pass some needed legislation.

Being paid to program on a Cray even if it was still in Fortran was lot's of fun when you could solve four or five 64 by 64 matrices in a 2 hour allotted time slot. I miss the National Supercomputer Center

Using a Ohio Scientific CIP to score a 400 mile timed motorcycle race in the middle of the desert before Apple ][ came out. Used an ASR-33 teletype, had two people keeping a generator running for 9 hours (No way to back up, no floppy) and writing the program and entering data using a DATA statement for the 4K rom basic interpreter. When the race was overprinted a half box of 132 column results and a copy of my code and shut off the generator. I might not have been the first to do something like that but I bet I was the first to do it with a total cost of $220.

Those are ancient computers today, you can still do something useful with a 486..
 

Red Squirrel

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On similar subject while digging in an old storage closet at the college once we found an 8 port hub. It was rackmountable and 2U, and it had more management interfaces on it than even an expensive modern Cisco router or switch. It even had a VGA port! What kind of management do you even need to do on a freaking 8 port hub? lol. And 2 freaking U for that thing. I think it even had a fan. it's always funny to see old stuff like that, and know that at some point it was probably the cat's ass. "We can connect 8 computers together with this, and it only takes 2U, what a time to be alive!" Meanwhile the only server for the entire building was probably like 6U... and a pentium 2.